And now pft takes a moment to acknowledge science AKA backpedals

This has revealed (again) the NFL as a rudderless ship in a storm.

AndyJohnson said:

What conditions the balls were filled under would not be a violation.
By the way I don't think it has anything to do with filling them but where they stored them.

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Um, yes it would. If you filled it with hotter air, then the temperature differential between that air and the outside air is higher, and therefore the pressure drop is higher.

SEA_Pat said:

Um, yes it would. If you filled it with hotter air, then the temperature differential between that air and the outside air is higher, and therefore the pressure drop is higher.

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You aren't getting my point. The ball could have been filled with air at any time.
The key consideration is what temp the air inside the ball is when it is tested.
If the air were pumped into it immediately before, then sure that would make a big difference, but I doubt the ball sit around empty until 2 minutes before handing over to the refs.
Whatever ambient temp they were stored in after being pumped would determine the pressure, again, unless they were pumped then rushed in.

bpippin said:

Why don't they fill the footballs with nitrogen, I believe nitrogen isn't affected by temp

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I think everyone should send a football shaped balloon to Goodell that was filled in a sauna with helium.

Maybe he'll get the hint........

1960Pats said:

The media and NFL is the cause of this storm.

You really listen to Goody the Jet?!? Stop that this instant.

If the Pats are fined or not, this will still be a great SB if they win.

I enjoy watching curling but I've never played a game.

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oh sorry, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise but reading my reponse (to your query) written in jest, I realize I should have worded it better.

I know that the NFL could have at least dampened this storm (as none can control the media).

Mine was a tongue-in-cheek response to your query on why should the Pats be punished.

It is akin to the case of a kid who excels in both academics and sports, and is constantly pulled up by the teachers for explanation because the other jealous kids incessantly complain something or the other.

So though we did not cause this storm, we are in it because of a complaint filed against us + media out for blood because of the camera-gate cross we have to bear for a looong time.

Hence my thought that it was easy for the NFL to punish us IF the balls were indeed found to be under-inflated.

Given the negativity so far, I would have been glad to pay that fine as long as a group of us (Packers, Vikings, Panthers etc) were hit with the same nominal fine because they either admitted or where caught trying to alter the ball's conditions. Unfortunate that we get clubbed with those guys, but then we were stuck with under-inflated balls and so have to bear responsibility.

Or so I thought until I heard BB's PC this morning.

He was brilliant and gave enough information to suggest that it was natural causes and nothing else Period.

I don't need anything else and really don't care anymore for what the friggin NFL does.

as you suggested, I am going to enjoy the next seven days, watch a wonderful SB, and hopefully get drunk with joy watching BB and TB host the cup.

Maybe keep curling away for some more time.

GO PATS!!

SVN said:

***holes! I also want someone to demonstrate...how can you deflate a ball with a pin or a paperclip for exactly 2 psi on 11 balls. Show it to me..

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in front of 80k fans and dozens of hd cameras

BradyManny said:

My favorite was when one sports mediot (Mike Tanier I think?) said he heard the air in the Pats balls were 80% nitrogen, 20% oxygen and questioned why (gee...you know, whats that mixture we call...oh, right AIR.). Thought it was suspicious.

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Looks like you're another one he hooked, then. That was a night of hilariously epic twitter trolling by Tanier. He finished the night with a pretty good haul of both homers and haters, FWIW.

ctpatsfan77 said:

Umm, Mr. Florio. . . . The NFL has already collected videos. Obviously they don't already have that video, which also suggests said video does not exist.

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The best part of that is that he's now reduced to clinging to a conspiracy theory that, even if it was true, it still wouldn't be against the rules.

Florio pedantically dissects Bill's presser trying to find out how and where he lied.

He thinks he's tripped upon gold by noting the "stunning" discrepancy between Bill saying:

“When the footballs are delivered to the officials’ locker room, the officials were asked to inflate them to 12.5 PSI"

and Bill later saying:

“Knowing that now, in the future we will certainly inflate the footballs above that low level to account for any possible change during the game.”.

After going on more in the vein, Florio concludes with:

The ultra-competitive nature of the sport coupled with the uncanny ability of Belichick and those he employs to seize upon every opportunity to gain an edgesuggests that they discovered a way to produce footballs that passed the pregame inspection at the low end of the permitted PSI and that then dropped well below the minimum, furthering the stated preferences of the guy charged with the task of throwing the footballs.

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And then this from PFT on Twitter.

ProFootballTalkVerified account‏@ProFootballTalk
"Anyone in the media who writes or says something that in any way questions my favorite team is a hack or a troll."

Florio isn't backpedaling at all. He's truly a hypocritical, disgusting little demagogue through and through (no surprise really).

As long as he's sentionalizing and pissing people off, viewers will continue to click his website and earn him money.. both of which help him lord it over the mascots of other NFL teams.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/kitty...tter-battle-with-jacksonville-jaguars-mascot/

Guys. . . . .

All these theories are just plain wrong. A certain someone was photographed in the ball room just before the game, and now The TRUTH behind Deflate-gate has been revealed!!!

That worthless, scum-sucking Donkey Kong Suh. Ha! I knew it!

sambam94 said:

some more science...12.5 to 11 psi

https://www.facebook.com/triconsportsinc?fref=nf

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That's why I'm saying the Patriots "Crisis Management" is Brilliant. These "Science" reports will continue all week, while there will be little or few reports from the NFL. Also, whereas before conclusive evidence was unnecessary, now I think conclusive evidence will be required. Finally, we'll be controlling the majority of the message (at least for this week).

Brilliant

NYCPatsFan said:

oh sorry, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise but reading my reponse (to your query) written in jest, I realize I should have worded it better.

I know that the NFL could have at least dampened this storm (as none can control the media).

Mine was a tongue-in-cheek response to your query on why should the Pats be punished.

It is akin to the case of a kid who excels in both academics and sports, and is constantly pulled up by the teachers for explanation because the other jealous kids incessantly complain something or the other.

So though we did not cause this storm, we are in it because of a complaint filed against us + media out for blood because of the camera-gate cross we have to bear for a looong time.

Hence my thought that it was easy for the NFL to punish us IF the balls were indeed found to be under-inflated.

Given the negativity so far, I would have been glad to pay that fine as long as a group of us (Packers, Vikings, Panthers etc) were hit with the same nominal fine because they either admitted or where caught trying to alter the ball's conditions. Unfortunate that we get clubbed with those guys, but then we were stuck with under-inflated balls and so have to bear responsibility.

Or so I thought until I heard BB's PC this morning.

He was brilliant and gave enough information to suggest that it was natural causes and nothing else Period.

I don't need anything else and really don't care anymore for what the friggin NFL does.

as you suggested, I am going to enjoy the next seven days, watch a wonderful SB, and hopefully get drunk with joy watching BB and TB host the cup.

Maybe keep curling away for some more time.

GO PATS!!

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I wish I could go/do/perform curling, but my knees would never hold up.

I'm really starting to get psyched up for this game.

We deserve a few bounces and a win after the last few years.

And what better team to do it against than the loudest winning team of them all.

Another Pats SB win will absolutely CRUSH our enemies.

BREAKING NEWS: THE PATRIOTS CHEAT BY TURNING THE HEAT ON AT THEIR FACILITY!!!!