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Twitter report: NFL investigation is more about NFL Officials, not Pats (updated)


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No it did not! Repeat...the NFL's statement DID NOT say the refs did their job (with respect to the footballs). Here is the excerpt from their statement which pertains:

"The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game."

Notice the tense of the word "inspect"...it was purposely written that way to connote the process typically used by officials...in accordance with League expectations. What wasn't explained, is what they mean by the term "confirm that this standard is satisfied", as has been pointed out by many on this forum. Lawyers wrote this statement, which is why you have to analyze every word...and the parsing of said words...to fully understand their intent. Otherwise the last sentence would have read like this:

"Prior to the game on Sunday, the game officials inspected the footballs to be used by each team and confirmed that the Patriot footballs all measured at least 12.5 psi, thereby satisfying the standard."

but the statement also said "which was done before last Sunday's game."
 
It really is interesting how some aspects of our society has evolved and some have not- 320+ years later.

If you go back and do some reading on the Salem Witch Trials, the characteristics are the same. Mass hysteria that reaches a fever pitch, fear, paranoia, extremism, false accusations and complete lack of regard in due process.

Amazing.

Hater: "Well the original Salem witch trials took place in New England, so it is turn about fair play if the New Englanders have to suffer for it now."
 
In this instance, what has the NFL done, to anyone or anything, that would warrant the call for an apology?

I don't see where the NFL directly said anything against the Patriots.
However either from malice or incompetence, their press release opened wide the speculation that the Patriots had done something nefarious.
And if Peter King is not simply a liar making things up, NFL insiders are leaking information to mediots that really puts the Patriots in a bad light. Nothing should have come out that was not in the NFL's statement, no "dropped 2 psi", etc. For that as with the leaked camera placement violation video to Fox News the NFL is responsible and should at the least remind the public that no information is valid unless released officially by them as a result of their ongoing investigation.
 
Isn't one (or more) of the refs that worked the Pats-Colts game scheduled to work the Superbowl? I thought I read that somewhere before this whole controversy blew up.
 
...should at the least remind the public that no information is valid unless released officially by them as a result of their ongoing investigation.

While I think they make that clearly understood, I don't have a problem with them adding it to their commentary. I just find it very disappointing that Patriots fans are *****ing about witch hunts and unfair accusations, all the while undertaking witch hunts, and making unfair accusations, against the NFL, ESPN, the media in general, the Colts and the Ravens.

I wish that we (collective, not specific), as fans who've been through this before, could be better than this.
 
Like people creating polls about kraft firing bb.

Witchhunt? Moi...
 
Like people creating polls about kraft firing bb.

Witchhunt? Moi...

So you didn't bother to actually read what I'd written, either in that thread's OP or in the other deflate gate threads. Color me surprised.
 
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In this instance, what has the NFL done, to anyone or anything, that would warrant the call for an apology?
This is on the media.

Notice the media spin now:
The Patriots are furious with the NFL.

But not with the media's inquisition
 
but the statement also said "which was done before last Sunday's game."

TB12,
I don't think you're seeing it yet. Makes no difference that they said "which was done before Sunday's game". They purposely preceded that sentence with the sentence that explained the rule...which described the explicit standard itself (12.5 - 13.5 psi). They did this ON PURPOSE...to create the impression (by the juxtaposition of the two sentences) that the term "confirm that this standard is satisfied" would connect to the 12.5 - 13.5 standard. But that's not what actually happened...I strongly believe...or they would have written the statement as I suggested, which would remove all doubt. But they couldn't do that.
ChesBay
 
I would they they look into the Pats and refs, but if you believe BB and the many experiments out there than it's likely there is no fault at all. In fact it's likely there isn't even a problem, let alone someone to blame.
 
I bet you the League issues a statement exonerating the pats in about 2 months on a friday afternoon after everyone has forgotten about it so that no one notices how badley they have screwed up in this witch hunt.

I don't think "the league" as constituted is a sure bet to last 2 months
 
In this instance, what has the NFL done, to anyone or anything, that would warrant the call for an apology?
1. Lie by omission

2. Fail at PR, which is their job.

Conducted an unprecedented mid game pressure check and attempt to draw conclusions from one data point. They cannot even determine "underinflated" was accurate. That term was used in their press release. All they can determine is not inflated to pressure the same as pregame. That's not underinflated.

Failed to figure out such statements implicate foul play. You could say they just didn't know the public would see it that way... But knowing the public is part of public relations. So that's the incompetence excuse.

Sure, if this was the police department I might cut them some slack for being bafoons in their pr, but it isn't. It's a PR department.
 
Hater: "Well the original Salem witch trials took place in New England, so it is turn about fair play if the New Englanders have to suffer for it now."
Um, New Englanders suffered during the Salem witch trials also. Interestingly, cold rainy weather was what brought about the witch trials as well.
 
1. Lie by omission

How so?

2. Fail at PR, which is their job.

Absolutely untrue. In this instance, their job is to find out what happened, fix any problems, and dole out any punishment that may be warranted.

Conducted an unprecedented mid game pressure check and attempt to draw conclusions from one data point.

Not that a lack of precedent would mean anything, but where's your proof that this was unprecedented?

They cannot even determine "underinflated" was accurate. That term was used in their press release. All they can determine is not inflated to pressure the same as pregame. That's not underinflated.

Yes, that's "underinflated".

Failed to figure out such statements implicate foul play. You could say they just didn't know the public would see it that way... But knowing the public is part of public relations. So that's the incompetence excuse.

This doesn't even make any sense.

Sure, if this was the police department I might cut them some slack for being bafoons in their pr, but it isn't. It's a PR department.

In this case, they ARE the police department.
 
Hopefully this is true but like all tweets,blogs, etc I'm waiting for absolute proof with my own eyes.

Hell, before the BB presser I thought he was going to pull a Nixon and resign.
that's exactly what I thought. I'm afraid he still might.
 
that's exactly what I thought. I'm afraid he still might.

I agree that is still a possibility, particularly if he doesn't get support from Bob Kraft. We have assumed he had the blessings of Pats ownership to have his press conference, but I haven't seen any confirmation of that.
 
that's exactly what I thought. I'm afraid he still might.

If they win the SB, it's worth the exercise.

-More money than god.
-Team is in good shape personnel and cap-wise
-Brady is at top form and doesn't need to worry about dealing with him leaving
-Very attractive girlfriend
-All the kids are out of the house
-4 SBs. Legacy secure
-Still young and he can get to do things he hasn't had a chance to do yet.

I kinda don't blame the guy for moving on. He wont have to deal with this witch hunt crap.

Only way he stays is that he just loves this game and his job more than life itself.
 
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