Eureka! The Only Side Changing Their Routine Was Indianapolis!!!!!

The Gr8est · Jan 25, 2015

ctpatsfan77 said:
I'm staying agnostic on what the Colts may or may not have done, but it was definitely the worst game, statistically speaking, Luck's ever had. Worst completion %age, worst QB rating, worst YPA.

I agree that there may be something to this and it should be investigated; including monitoring the Colts pre and half time ball pressures NEXT season, if there appears to be more than just smoke.

To play devil's advocate I would like to point out that just before the game started the Colts looked more nervous and uptight than the Pats did. If you have the game recorded go check it out.

50-yard-line · Jan 25, 2015

Blah.

Why would you dump on the Pats' D like that?

Of course the league should look into the Colts' balls and procedures.

But this kind of conjecture is worthy of ESPN.

Betterthanmost · Jan 25, 2015

Joey007 said:
All these Patsfans poster theories are giving me a headache.... aghh

I actually this was from a leak or some tangible evidence. This a crux in this whole case. What did they do?

The Gr8est · Jan 25, 2015

Joey007 said:
All these Patsfans poster theories are giving me a headache.... aghh

It would be nice if Pats fans didn't have to worry about stuff like this. I think we'd all prefer to just enjoy the game, however the haters won't let us and we are forced to defend ourselves constantly.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get you, and the haters have been hard after the Pats for quite a while.

upstater1 · Jan 25, 2015

Here's another factor: the Patriots were on offense longer. Patriots balls were unprotected and wetter. Colts balls were dryer.

IllegalContact · Jan 27, 2015

I don't know........ If I was Luck,I'd be pretty pissed if they didn't let me prep for the afcc the way I have been. I would say something

ausbacker · Jan 27, 2015

I'm not paying out on Luck and the Colts. It takes away from the fine defensive performance of the Patriots.

turkeyneck · Jan 27, 2015

robertweathers said:
If true that Drugstore Cowboy was the one who urged the league to investigate the Pats, with his history of personal instability (we all make mistakes but sheesh), why on earth would the league NOT give the Pats the benefit of the doubt/heads up over him?

Something stinks.

I think Irsay's role in this is just as a tool of Kensil. Irsay's complaint was needed to give cover for Kensil's latest attack on Belichick. I doubt Irsay really knew what Kensil was up to.

Triumph · Jan 27, 2015

Luck is very overrated. Quite the choke artist in big games.

Sure he looked fantastic vs a 1 legged Manning. I saw someplace where Luck had approximately 3 seconds throw vs Denver. Brady had 1.6 seconds to get the ball away vs Baltimore and NE totally abandoned the run.

Bostonian1962 · Jan 27, 2015

shmessy said:
This makes sense.

After hearing from Belichick yesterday (and why the EFF didn't he hold a presser like THAT in 2007????), it is clear that the Patriots treat their footballs with plenty of rubbing substances,as is legal. These substances are one of the factors credited with changing the PSi in the footballs, especially when mixed with the rain/cold/wind conditions.

Why didn't the Colts footballs have the same change in PSi measurement? is a common question asked.

The answer: They WOULD have, had the Colts followed their normal/standard pregame football preparation procedures. Because the revelations coming out increasingly point to this as a coordinated "gotcha" sting operation, perhaps it was the COLTS as the side that did things differently with their routine.

Note: Brady's stat line from that game is no better or worse than his normal stat line.

The outlier is LUCK'S stat line!!!!!!

12-33 for 126 0 TD 2 INT. Has he EVER had that bad a game? Were his receivers/TE's not all healthy and playing?

I know, I know the weather was bad, but when has he ever had as bad a stat line? The Colts had zero chance in that game going in and they knew it.

Has an investigator asked the Colts whether they did ANYTHING to treat their footballs? It would be an interesting twist if their footballs were purposely untreated so that there would be no deflation in those conditions.

OK, throw your bricks now, my tinfoil hat will protect me!

I've pumped up a lot of basketballs and footballs in my life, and there is one thing I haven't heard anybody mention: The league measured the psi of the balls at half time. When you stick the needle into the balls, to do so, you invariably hear the hissing sound, because when you do it, air escapes. Thus, the balls are automatically at less pressure than before you test them. That's a fact. I've done it a thousand times.

Observer · Jan 27, 2015

Bostonian1962 said:
I've pumped up a lot of basketballs and footballs in my life, and there is one thing I haven't heard anybody mention: The league measured the psi of the balls at half time. When you stick the needle into the balls, to do so, you invariably hear the hissing sound, because when you do it, air escapes. Thus, the balls are automatically at less pressure than before you test them. That's a fact. I've done it a thousand times.

The media just wants to punish someone. Truth takes a back seat to popularity in this country. That is all there to it.

DefenseRules · Jan 27, 2015

If I'm a player on that team, I would be pissed. Provided this is true, they are playing for a franchise who put them in a position to lose. Disgusting if true.

IcyPatriot · Jan 27, 2015

I said this the day after this mess started ... did the Colts over inflate their balls or play with them more inflated than normal ... I pointed to Luck's 1/9 on deep balls ... he was much better on medium and short throws. In any case a real douchebag move ... hurting your own QB. This is classic bite one's nose off to spite the face scenario.

Haley · Jan 27, 2015

It is pure speculation (heck, in this, what isn't) but I still firmly believe that the one ball reported to have a lower PSI was tampered with by someone on the Colt's sideline. I think they wanted to measure it midgame so that they could decide on a course of action. Merely measuring the ball could account for the loss of pressure.

I want the Colts to be investigated for any connections to this but I know in my heart that it'll never happen. A witch hunt only looks for the witches that were identified ahead of time.

FrodoBagginz · Jan 27, 2015

I'm not convinced the Colts did anything other than possibly inflate to 13.5 PSI.

The Pats probably told the refs to inflate to 12.5 PSI. We now know the Pats balls were under the limit by 1.0 PSI which means the Pats told the refs to inflate theirs at 12.5 PSI.

12.5 -1.0+= 11.5
13.5 -1.0= 12.5

I don't think it is more complicated than that. And now there is a possibility the balls were submitted to the refs under inflated AND approved by the refs.

That can only mean the PSI loss from the weather is LESS than 1.0 PSI which means the Colts balls may have been over the 12.5 limit at half and not just at the minimum limit. How much under the PSI limit were the Pats balls when the refs approved is the question.

In the end, though, it looks more and more like this is the fault of the refs. But, of course, the Pats will probably be punished anyway.

The only thing I think may have been tampered with (by the Colts) is that mysterious 12th ball which was under the PSI of all the others.

Haley · Jan 27, 2015

FrodoBagginz said:
I'm not convinced the Colts did anything other than possibly inflate to 13.5 PSI.

I doubt they even bothered with this. I'm betting that since they were the away team, those balls were sitting in storage outside on the team bus overnight. They may have inflated them slightly with warmer air in the morning but the majority of the air in those balls would have been temperature adjusted.

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