Mike Reiss seems pissed off

Deus Irae · Jan 25, 2015

RayClay said:
You have to be charged with something to be cleared of it. who is being charged?

Your first sentence is incorrect. As to your second, there's an investigation going on, and they've not been publicly cleared of any wrongdoing.

Bobs My Uncle · Jan 25, 2015

shmessy said:
......so he should have stayed at the Boston Globe??????

You DO understand that they are worse than ESPN, right?

People were either not here or forget, but when he jumped from the Globe to start ESPNBoston.com that was a HUGE slap in the face to the Morrissey Boulevard crowd - - that was UNHEARD OF back then - - and, yes, it DID help change the terrain away from the newspaper domination. The Globe sports section has never recovered from it.

With the Globe, it is a management Holy War against Kraft and the possibility of a football team getting anywhere near the popularity of their idol Red Sox.

Reiss has a wife and kids to feed. Where does he go? When he took the ESPNBoston job they told him the blog was his. THEY changed the game on him with this ESPNation encroachment last year. He was ticked off and he put his neck on the line by publicly answering a question from a reader about it.

Look folks, you are never going to get a 100% pure fanboy info site anywhere - - even here.

For some, the litmus test is ridiculously tight. So Reiss' PSi reading BRIEFLY fell to around 11.3 on Monday. Admit that the atmosphere he performs in could possibly do it.

Mike is in an awkward spot.

As you say, he has to support a wife and kids by doing what he does. What he does is largely dependent on access to the team. Given the ruthless media attacks on the team by ESPN, the company that pays Reiss to feed his wife and kids, he might not be granted access if those who do the granting decide not to do so anymore.

RayClay · Jan 25, 2015

Deus Irae said:
Your first sentence is incorrect. As to your second, there's an investigation going on, and they've not been publicly cleared of any wrongdoing.

How can you clear someone of committing an infraction when you haven't identified whothey are or what was done? I could clear someone at random of murder, because i have no evidence they murdered anyone, but maybe they did, in which case, i would have incorrectly cleared a murderer.

Fansince77 · Jan 25, 2015

Fencer said:
http://www.mikereiss.net/media-coverage-on-underinflated-footballs/

ESPN....The new Jerry Springer show? I think thats what he means? Does anyone know if Chris Berman owns ESPN? Its pretty clear to me, someone at the top of ESPN extremely dislikes the Patriots.

Mike Reiss, I have to say, you`re probably the person I most look forward to seeing on Channel 4 patriots coverage and Patriots all access, how you would wan`t to work for ESPN is really a head scratcher, you are way above that in my opinion.

Tunescribe · Jan 25, 2015

Deus Irae said:
It is not the role of the media to parrot all things Patriots. It is not the role of the media to protect the Patriots from themselves, or from others. It is not wrong for columnists and commentators to give their opinion on issues, even when those opinions run contrary to what Patriots homers would prefer. As long as he'd done his due diligence, Mort wasn't wrong to release his story on the 11 under inflated balls. Reiss isn't wrong to say that the Patriots should be held accountable for wrongdoing.

And the Patriots haven't been cleared of anything, which is something many here seem not to realize.

Accuracy and fairness are essential tenets of good journalism, even in opinion pieces. Both have been in shockingly short supply across the board this past week. I've never seen any issue this egregiously abused by erstwhile professionals who should know better. It's shameful. And that's not just the fan in me talking.

Fansince77 · Jan 25, 2015

Rob0729 said:
It must be tough working for the same company as Mark Brunell and his shameless, self-serving display. From him crying on the air after Brady's press conference to him CPRing the football to get a feel of which test ball was deflated to claim how "obvious" it was to tell, Brunell put on quite a performance to trash the Patriots. And no one called him on it.

Yeah, but he is the LAST person to be throwing stones, IMO by going bankrupt, he proved HIMSELF to be a liar and a cheater. Wasn`t he all Religous at one point in his life? If he still is, he wins biggest hypocrite walking award hands down.

50-yard-line · Jan 25, 2015

I don't typically watch ESPN (I think they're deceptive in their left-hand scroll - they put up news about local teams, go to break, then come back past the teaser).

I read Reiss and still will - and no, he shouldn't quit. It's his living. If everyone quit because of corporate malfeasance, well...

But if you had any doubts of ESPN's angle in this, consider: they took down their science segment which supported that which Bill Belichick explained...and when talking about it today, instead quoted Bill Nye the Science Guy.

You can't make this up.

shmessy · Jan 25, 2015

Bobs My Uncle said:
Mike is in an awkward spot.

As you say, he has to support a wife and kids by doing what he does. What he does is largely dependent on access to the team. Given the ruthless media attacks on the team by ESPN, the company that pays Reiss to feed his wife and kids, he might not be granted access if those who do the granting decide not to do so anymore.

On the list of media that the Patriots would want to limit access to because of record, Mike Reiss is somewhere on page 1,279 - - after Paul Perillo and Steve Burton.

Fansince77 · Jan 25, 2015

Username said:
I posted this in another thread, but it seems relevant here too so...

I'm done with ESPN. Done.

Only Adam Schefter has come out of this looking like an actual journalist. The rest of them got so caught up in the agenda and editorial they were pushing that all they did was report rumor, hearsay and ill informed opinion as fact and damned the Patriots with no evidence. It was a witch hunt and a feeding frenzy of the worst possible kind. They created the hysteria and they point blank refused to engage in any reasoned debate about what might have happened. They are all far more concerned about website hits and retweets than their laughable crusade to preserve the integrity of the game. If sporting integrity was so important to them they would actually do some research and report fact instead of being glorified TMZ reporters. Even Mike Reiss has let himself down, which is very disappointing. I hope the Patriots organization remembers this and treats ESPN accordingly from now on.

Yep, don`t take even ONE question from them on SB Media day...sorry, I know MR kraft probably dictates that they co-operate with all apsects of such things, but come on, the Patriots need to start standing up for themselves...unless of course Goodell would also dictate that they HAVE to take their questions.....I would just simply pretend not to hear them If I was any Patriots player or Coach.

billikens · Jan 25, 2015

Well, it's been confirmed that the balls were underinflated, and that certainly is newsworthy. And while the Patriots have not been exonerated by the league, neither have they been formally accused of anything, either. And, to me, that is one of the problems. They are being left twisting in the wind with only themselves to fight against this overwhelming tide of negative reporting and swirling rumors, which is unfair to the Patriots. The league should really say or do something soon to show what they are thinking and what are the basic facts as they know them, the uncertainty is really unacceptable the longer it lasts.

Rob0729 · Jan 25, 2015

50-yard-line said:
I don't typically watch ESPN (I think they're deceptive in their left-hand scroll - they put up news about local teams, go to break, then come back past the teaser).

I read Reiss and still will - and no, he shouldn't quit. It's his living. If everyone quit because of corporate malfeasance, well...

But if you had any doubts of ESPN's angle in this, consider: they took down their science segment which supported that which Bill Belichick explained...and when talking about it today, instead quoted Bill Nye the Science Guy.

You can't make this up.

The funny thing is the SCIENTISTS that support Belichick are actually scientists. Nye is a television personality who passes himself off as a scientist. He has less education than most high school science teachers.

Even when he worked for Boeing he was more of an actor for training videos than creating anything.

And he is a Seattle native and Seahawks fan.

Deus Irae · Jan 25, 2015

RayClay said:
How can you clear someone of committing an infraction when you haven't identified whothey are or what was done? I could clear someone at random of murder, because i have no evidence they murdered anyone, but maybe they did, in which case, i would have incorrectly cleared a murderer.

I'm sorry you don't understand the definition of clear, and how it would apply to an investigatory process.

Deus Irae · Jan 25, 2015

Tunescribe said:
Accuracy and fairness are essential tenets of good journalism, even in opinion pieces. Both have been in shockingly short supply across the board this past week. I've never seen any issue this egregiously abused by erstwhile professionals who should know better. It's shameful. And that's not just the fan in me talking.

Yes, it's just the fan in you talking, since we still have pretty much no idea what's been accurate and 'fair'.

RobertWeathers · Jan 25, 2015

billikens said:
Well, it's been confirmed that the balls were underinflated,

Careful with your terminology.

It is the Patriots position that after the refs checked the balls- that were found to be in regulation in all probabilities, climate and other factors reduced the ball's air pressure after the refs measured the ball.

billikens said:
and that certainly is newsworthy. And while the Patriots have not been exonerated by the league, neither have they been formally accused of anything, either. And, to me, that is one of the problems. They are being left twisting in the wind with only themselves to fight against this overwhelming tide of negative reporting and swirling rumors, which is unfair to the Patriots. The league should really say or do something soon to show what they are thinking and what are the basic facts as they know them, the uncertainty is really unacceptable the longer it lasts.

You would think it would be logical for the league to defend one of it's Super Bowl participants while instead they let public doubt of their integrity tarnish their brand.

So dumb. The asshats have no idea was brand integrity is.

I really question the caliber and competence of the people that work in the NFL offices. What a bunch of incompetent, waste-of-space, useless people.

Bobsyouruncle · Jan 25, 2015

Deus Irae said:
Yes, it's just the fan in you talking, since we still have pretty much no idea what's been accurate and 'fair'.

I think we have a pretty good idea about what's accurate and fair. I don't know why you think we don't.

Fansince77 · Jan 25, 2015

Double TE said:
List of douchebags:

Ian O'Connor
Mark Brunnel
Jerome Bettis
Jerry Rice
Troy Aikman
Bob Kravitz
Greg Doyel
Peter King

Probably missing 30 or so. All compromised their journalistic integrity by finding the Pats guilty sans all the facts and calling TB a liar point blank. Or both.

Maybe someone should create a separate DB thread. So ridiculous.

Marshall Faulk,
Hines ward.

billikens · Jan 25, 2015

robertweathers said:
Careful with your terminology.

It is the Patriots position that after the refs checked the balls- that were found to be in regulation in all probabilities, climate and other factors reduced the ball's air pressure after the refs measured the ball.

You would think it would be logical for the league to defend one of it's Super Bowl participants while instead they let public doubt of their integrity tarnish their brand.

So dumb. The asshats have no idea was brand integrity is.

I really question the caliber and competence of the people that work in the NFL offices. What a bunch of incompetent, waste-of-space, useless people.

The NFL official statement confirmed they were underinflated, and I am not saying that to say I believe they were underinflated, I am saying that to mean that it certainly was a newsworthy fact and not conjecture, opinion, etc. And I am not saying the league should defend the Pats, I am saying that their saying nothing, good or bad, is causing uncertainty that is unfair to the Pats. If the evidence is damning, then they should condemn the Pats, but at least it would lessen the uncertainty of having no idea what they are thinking.

Bobs My Uncle · Jan 25, 2015

shmessy said:
On the list of media that the Patriots would want to limit access to because of record, Mike Reiss is somewhere on page 1,279 - - after Paul Perillo and Steve Burton.

I would agree. But that could certainly change depending on how his future writings materialize. My basic point is he would be wise not to bite the hand that feeds him.

billikens · Jan 25, 2015

Fansince77 said:
Marshall Faulk,
Hines ward.

Donovan McNabb
Rosie O'Donnell

RayClay · Jan 25, 2015

Deus Irae said:
I'm sorry you don't understand the definition of clear, and how it would apply to an investigatory process.

Please explain it to me, I'm kind of dumb. You haven't identified that anything was done by anyone, and if it was, who allegedly did it, yet you are clearing people.

I'm always looking to learn new things.

Mike Reiss seems pissed off

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