Harbaugh/Colts responsible for this nonsense.

FrodoBagginz · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
the ravens kickers were talking about deflated balls. why would they know anything since the kickers have different balls?

BennyBledsoe · Jan 24, 2015

ausbacker said:
The Ravens are pushing my dislike of the Jets right to the wire.

The Jets are just that idiot relative you love to hate. The Ravens have crossed over into Make My Day, Punk territory.

Bella*chick · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
really? then there should be no problem that they measured low when the refs tested them at the half?

As BB said in his presser, they aren't routinely tested at halftime, so no one knows what the footballs is crazy weather conditions have been doing all this time. It was the fact that the footballs were whined about by the crybaby loser Colts, or the Ravens, or Irsay or whoever and the Patriots were accused of tampering with them.

bruce_w · Jan 24, 2015

AirForcePatsFan said:
The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. Being under is totally legal as long as the officials passed them during the "inspection" and they weren't physically tampered with after the inspection. That's why The Hoodie said they went by the letter of the rule book. The balls passed inspection and they weren't tampered with physically after that procedure. There is no rule that states the balls must remain between 12.5 - 13.5 throughout the game, just that they must be measured in that range by the refs 2 hours 15 minutes prior to kick off.

Bella*chick said:
As BB said in his presser, they aren't routinely tested at halftime, so no one knows what the footballs is crazy weather conditions have been doing all this time. It was the fact that the footballs were whined about by the crybaby loser Colts, or the Ravens, or Irsay or whoever and the Patriots were accused of tampering with them.

the patriots are being accused of altering the pressure of the balls BELOW the 12.5 minimum range as tested at the halftime of the AFCCG.

AirForcePatsFan · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
really? then there should be no problem that they measured low when the refs tested them at the half?

No problem as in no rules broken? Correct. Unless the footballs were physically tampered with after the pre game "inspection".

bruce_w · Jan 24, 2015

AirForcePatsFan said:
No problem as in no rules broken? Correct. Unless the footballs were physically tampered with after the pre game "inspection".

"The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. "

this is what you said. Please explain

AirForcePatsFan · Jan 24, 2015

AirForcePatsFan said:
No problem as in no rules broken? Correct. Unless the footballs were physically tampered with after the pre game "inspection".[/QUO

bruce_w said:

the patriots are being accused of altering the pressure of the balls BELOW the 12.5 minimum range as tested at the halftime of the AFCCG.

Click to expand...

They originally thought and maybe some still do think the patriots had someone tamper with the balls after the pre game inspection.

PlainOldEd · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
"The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. "

this is what you said. Please explain

The point was as long as the Pats didn't tamper with the balls no rules were violated. If the refs ok the balls and the Pats never alter them after that they are not doing anything wrong. Why is this so difficult to understand?

bruce_w · Jan 24, 2015

PlainOldEd said:
The point was as long as the Pats didn't tamper with the balls no rules were violated. If the refs ok the balls and the Pats never alter them after that they are not doing anything wrong. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Are you serious? Again here is what the poster said - "The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. "
The ONLY evidence is that the BALLS ARE BELOW 12.5 PSI!!!!!!!! There is no evidence that the pats tampered with the balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is so hard for you people to understand?

PlainOldEd · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
Are you serious? Again here is what the poster said - "The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. "
The ONLY evidence is that the BALLS ARE BELOW 12.5 PSI!!!!!!!! There is no evidence that the pats tampered with the balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is so hard for you people to understand?

What the poster said is entirely accurate. Neither I nor AirForcePatsFan are saying they were tampered with. You are the one with the comprehension issues.

AirForcePatsFan · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
"The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. "

this is what you said. Please explain

The air molecules inside the ball were heated up while the equipment managers were prepping the balls pre inspection, trying to get them to Brady's liking. (Rubbing, scrubbing, polishing, God only knows what else) The friction causes heat which causes a higher PSI or an unstable PSI if you will. They handed the balls to the officials for inspection during this unstable state and they passed with a PSI in the range of 12.5 - 13.5. As they brought them out to the field and played the first half the cool temperature caused the PSI to drop. Hence the reason for the PSI below 12.5.

bruce_w · Jan 24, 2015

"The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. Being under is totally legal as long as the officials passed them during the "inspection" and they weren't physically tampered with after the inspection"

Sorry but this implies that the league could not accuse the patriots UNLESS they had proof that they tampered with the footballs. The ONLY proof they have is that they were under during the game. There is NO proof of tampering.

KDPPatsfan85 · Jan 24, 2015

I hope karma kicks harbaugh, pagano, and irsay hard right in the ass. I hope for the next 3 years, they all draft busts.

AirForcePatsFan · Jan 24, 2015

bruce_w said:
"The balls aren't out of compliance and no rule is necessarily broken just because they are below 12.5 PSI. Being under is totally legal as long as the officials passed them during the "inspection" and they weren't physically tampered with after the inspection"

Sorry but this implies that the league could not accuse the patriots UNLESS they had proof that they tampered with the footballs. The ONLY proof they have is that they were under during the game. There is NO proof of tampering.

We agree there was no tampering. If my post implied anything otherwise I didn't do a very good job communicating my position on the subject. Let's put this one to bed.

bruce_w · Jan 24, 2015

OK misunderstanding, we are on the same side my friend.

zoostation · Jan 24, 2015

Haley said:
I'm starting to buy into the theory that Curran's screwy question at the end of BBs presser today was a plant, staged to allow BB to rant further on the subject to really drive it home. If that is true, it puts his article in a new light.

Oh my aching head. Another theory

ctpatsfan77 · Jan 24, 2015

AirForcePatsFan said:
The air molecules inside the ball were heated up while the equipment managers were prepping the balls pre inspection, trying to get them to Brady's liking. (Rubbing, scrubbing, polishing, God only knows what else) The friction causes heat which causes a higher PSI or an unstable PSI if you will. They handed the balls to the officials for inspection during this unstable state and they passed with a PSI in the range of 12.5 - 13.5. As they brought them out to the field and played the first half the cool temperature caused the PSI to drop. Hence the reason for the PSI below 12.5.

As a minor point, it could be a combination of increased temperature and decreased volume (PV is a constant, so P ∝ 1/V).

Digit · Jan 24, 2015

Just wanted to point this out to bruce_w.

'The balls were underinflated' is not 'proof'. It's the -problem-. You have to diagnose the problem. The NFL's diagnosis is 'cheating', but it has absolutely nothing to back up that. Belichick's diagnosis is 'Mother Nature'. That actually has an explanation.

The media has been trumping this as 'proof' when it's actually not. It's a -problem- that needs explaining.

MoreBellhorn · Jan 24, 2015

KDPPatsfan85 said:
I hope karma kicks harbaugh, pagano, and irsay hard right in the ass. I hope for the next 3 years, they all draft busts.

The Colts won't have to worry about that this year. They essentially drafted a bust with their 1st rounder via trade. By the way, that might have been the worst trade in NFL history.

bruce_w · Jan 24, 2015

Digit said:
Just wanted to point this out to bruce_w.

'The balls were underinflated' is not 'proof'. It's the -problem-. You have to diagnose the problem. The NFL's diagnosis is 'cheating', but it has absolutely nothing to back up that. Belichick's diagnosis is 'Mother Nature'. That actually has an explanation.

The media has been trumping this as 'proof' when it's actually not. It's a -problem- that needs explaining.

Thanks but that is all incredibly obvious. Read the rest of the thread.

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