The Official Belichick Post Press Conference Thread

Big-T said:

A Ravens fan I talk to is still skeptical so I've told him to take up Belichick's "do it yourself" offer and to try show that a number of Youtubers, Bill Belichick and a number of Physicists are in fact wrong. So he's going to go test in 39 Fahrenheit outdoor conditions soon.

I don't think we need to hold our breaths on him breaking Physics.

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Can't wait to hear what excuse he has for this.

fgssand said:

I swore of Mazz the day he simply made a mockery of all Patriot fans and their continual "fanboy" references are said to irk and gain ratings.

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The only thing Mazz ever says is they sucked. Zero intelligent conversation. I turned them off this week. They are dead to me.

"Moreover, wouldn't this preparation of the balls be accounted for when the refs evaluate the balls before the game?"

Yes. The balls start with enough air for 12.5 PSI indoors. The PSI may go up to 13.5 after the rubbing process, which would still be valid. The referees, having been asked to set it to 12.5, sometimes listen and deflate the ball to meet that. After the rubbing effect fades away, the ball goes down to 12.5 -- or 11.5 if referees removed air -- even before being brought outside. Brought outside, it drops another 0.5 to 2 psi depending on change in temperature, so it could be 9.5 to 10.5 PSI by then.

After years of trial and error, the quarterbacks of any team don't necessarily realize if the process changes the PSI. They just know that they followed a certain procedure before the game and the balls felt great during the game. Or, they didn't like the feel during the game, and they change the procedure. Remember, they cannot actually measure PSI or adjust air during the game, so the pre-game procedure is what the quarterbacks ask for.

TruthSeeker said:

I agree with Peter that it's very significant that the Colts balls were in the 12.5 -> 13.5 range despite the temperature difference. We definitely need an investigation into what the Colts were doing with their footballs.

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Or an investigation as to why the refs made sure the colts balls were properly pumped and not the Patriot balls ... time to check the refs for offshore money accounts.

DefenseRules said:

I just watched it again. He said that the preparation of the football caused the differential in PSI. They constantly rub the ball to get the tack right. The rubbing caused the ball pressure to increase. I didn't realize that the football was made of pigskin. All this time I thought it was plastic. I am so dumb. Wow. It's not man made material. It's animal skin. I did not know that. BB taught me something.

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I bet that statement has been made a few million times today.

juny said:

Can't wait to hear what excuse he has for this.

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Same, I'll make sure to update the thread when he's done it.

Good luck to the Seahawks......

Your Friend,

A Very Pissed Off Bill Belichick

PatSunday said:

"Moreover, wouldn't this preparation of the balls be accounted for when the refs evaluate the balls before the game?"

Yes. The PSI would go up to 13.5. The referees, asked to set it to 12.5, sometimes listen and deflate or inflate the ball to meet that. After the rubbing process finishes, the ball was actually at 11.5, that is even before being brought outside. Brought outside, it drops another 0.5 to 2 psi depending on change in temperature.

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The preparation raises the psi. So lets say the ball is at 11 psi. The do the prep and it goes to 12. The refs measure 12, add 0.5 to get to the prescribed 12.5. Then, in BBs words, it returns to equilibrium, which would now be 11.5 (11 starting, plus 1 for prep, plus 0.5 for refs, -1 for equilibrium). The take it outside and it goes to 11 or 10.5.
This is an important consideration for the Colts balls and the second set of backup balls.
They were already at 'equibilibrium'.

grux said:

Good luck to the Seahawks......

Your Friend,

A Very Pissed Off Bill Belichick

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In the end, we will owe the Colts and Ravens a thank you for adding a positive impact to the Pats preparing for the game.

rochrist said:

If this whole thing doesn't put a nail in the coffin of 98.5, there is no justice. They've been on Bill all week. Well, not sure about Gresh and Zo, but Gresh is gone anyway. But Felger and Maz spent the whole week calling him a liar.

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Nail in the coffin?

Doubt it their listeners are the fellowship of the miserable ... they sing to the choir everyday.

The MMQB ‏@theMMQB Jan 22
Again, from our informal test, diff between 12.5 and 10.5 psi is practically imperceptible. 10.5 definitely not soft.

vyrago said:

Good idea and then we can just hand out the url to any remaining haters. Poor Bill. Bitten in the butt by a guy for whom he got a job. Harbaugh, you gutless twerp!

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Haters are going to hate and there are many who will refuse to be convinced, others who cannot accept the truth since their hate is a security blanket against having to accept reality.

You do what you can do and move on.

BB did what he needed to do and he is moving on.

Sorry for being late to the game, but to restate in the most objective way I know, Belichick said: the process of the QB approving footballs prior to use is based on feel -- how slick, and how tacky the ball is. It is NOT focused on measuring PSI. Rubbing up the ball to get it to the correct "feel" raises the PSI (through friction, which heats the ball). Measuring PSI in a controlled climate, like a locker room, differs from the playing conditions. PSI will drop in colder temps. No one measures PSI throughout this process. *Who knows* what the variance might be. When the footballs are turned over to the REFs, it is assumed they adjust the PSI to bring it within limits, and the process is DONE, and football players go out and play the game.

At that point, the team is no longer concerned with the balls, and the Haterz can just SUK IT.

So let me get this straight. Peter King still thinks that the Pats had a person physically deflating 12 footballs on the sidelines? All this in front of 80000 people - along with the opposing teams cameras focused over there trying to steal our signals. Because other than that happening no rules were broken.

CNN seems to be doing a rather lengthy piece that seems to be essentially: Deflategate - As bad as Hitler? Or worse?

Mv1029 said:

Did anyone pick up when Belichick said he welcomed the leagues investigation at a number of different levels which seemed to insinuate that he feels some unjustly reported them.

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I thought the tenor of his voice changed when he said it. There was simmering anger there.

BadMoFo said:

Another important thing he said is that footballs aren't checked during games so there is no way of knowing that this happens. I bet the colts or Ravens checked the psi level of one of our intercepted balls and figured it out. All they had to do is cry about it and make us look guilty. If footballs were checked during games you may find that this happens quite a bit.

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Exactly. This has been happening for 80 years and no one knew it, because no one checked. Now Bill Belichick has gone out and shown them why.

AndyJohnson said:

The preparation raises the psi. So lets say the ball is at 11 psi. The do the prep and it goes to 12. The refs measure 12, add 0.5 to get to the prescribed 12.5. Then, in BBs words, it returns to equilibrium, which would now be 11.5 (11 starting, plus 1 for prep, plus 0.5 for refs, -1 for equilibrium). The take it outside and it goes to 11 or 10.5.
This is an important consideration for the Colts balls and the second set of backup balls.
They were already at 'equibilibrium'.

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Yes, starting at 11 PSI + 1 PSI, the referees will need to add at least 0.5 and that results in 11.5 PSI if the extra 1 PSI of the rubbing effect goes away indoors.
But starting at 12.5 PSI + 1 PSI, the Patriots can claim the PSI was valid before *and* after the rubbing. And if the referees say "it's 13.5, but Patriots asked for 12.5", they will remove 1 PSI, and that results in 11.5 PSI if the extra 1 PSI of the rubbing effect goes away indoors.

Either way, 11.5 PSI is what happens before the balls are even brought out (in actuality, the rubbing effect goes away while outside, on top of the reduction in pressure due to outdoor temperature)

SVN said:

gregg rosenthal ‏@greggrosenthal 59m59 minutes ago
People don’t like Belichick’s message but he provided a ton of information on a subject most of us would rather not be so complex.

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What does that even mean?
Who doesn't like someone explaining how they investigated something no one seemed to have understood?

Want it to be less complex? Like make something up for the ****** group?

Kdo5 said:

Nope. If there is one thing Felger is damn good at, it is weasling his way out of the moronic things he says. He'll never admit to fault.

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That doesn't make him immune to people turning him off. I'm not sure how he succeeds really at this point. It's clear his target audience is people that hate the respective teams (other than the Bruins). How do you build a local sports personality on an audience of people that hate the teams?