Peter King: Footballs were tampered with by human

The bottom line to all this is that nobody up to the Championship game gave a crap about PSI! If they had, they wouldn't entrust the "integrity of the game" to a 15 year old ball boy!
They are covering up for the Refs, who didn't do anything more than a cursory check of the balls. Why you ask, didn't they check? Because nobody gave a crap! It doesn't effect anything!
If lower pressure was a panacea for inaccuracy and the dropsies, QB's would love low pressure balls. But they all say they prefer the higher pressure balls!
Why you may ask, Oh why is this such a big deal? Because it's time to rape the Patriots. Time to PIGPILE!
They will never, ever live down spygate. It will be the measuring board for judgement for the rest of their lives! They are liars before they speak. Cheaters before they act. Dirty rotten scoundrels, all because we allowed the league to screw us over about spygate. We should have gone down fighting like the Saints. Instead we bowed our heads and took it.
Screw them all, we will not go calmly into the night! Rage I say, Rage against the darkness!!!
(cough) sorry, got a little carried away!

SVN said:

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/23/deflategate-patriots-super-bowl-xlix/

Sorry i thought this warranted its own thread. Seems like PK has some more info

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Who is this Peter King *******? Seriously I have no clue. Don`t watch ESPN...Sounds like anothe dipshit, but thats who ESPN seems to hire
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What we need is for some PI`s to go around and see if any of these idiots have ever cheated on anything in their lives, GF`s, BF`s, Husbands, Wives, taxes, etc, and make it public. I have noticed people that I personally know who have cheated in evey one of those categories and thats all good, yet they get all indignant about the Patriots cheating. Just goes to show just how idiotic people can be.

Fansince77 said:

Who is this Peter King *******? Seriously I have no clue. Don`t watch ESPN...Sounds like anothe dipshit, but thats who ESPN seems to hire

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King is a writer for SI and a miserable human being. However, he's also widely known as being a league toadie and suckup, so I think it's very reasonable to assume that his leak comports with the info the NFL has or wants known.

grux said:

This makes the most sense and I hope is what happened to the balls. However, good luck getting the NFL to admit they made a mistake.

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The thing is you have to expect someone from the Patriots either did or did not witness a pressure test by the refs when they checked the balls(unless sting scenario). I'd like to think this might be one possible ace up the sleeve for the team - "if you punish us, we'll reveal that your refs did no such pre-game pressure testing". Or maybe just one of the biggest evidentiary problems facing the NFL.

bbobbo said:

i'm skeptical of the sting scenario for a different reason. if they were conducting a sting to catch the patriots in the act of altering the balls, why do it indirectly by measuring and re-measuring ball pressures? just have a camera surreptitiously pointed at the ball bag at all times and have league officials watching the bag at all times. definitive proof, no need for a long, drawn out investigation.

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Ball bag

Danger Zone said:

1:45 mark

And yet here are the Sport Science guys saying they exposed a football to 10 degree weather for one hour and the PSI dropped over twenty percent.

Doubting they initially filled their football with 110+ degree air.

If you assume they used 70 degree air, then they noticed a 20% drop in PSI over a range of 60 degrees of temperature acclimation.

That results in a 3.3% drop in PSI per 10 degree change in temperature. Oddly enough, this is super close to the broad rule of thumb that people like Goodyear give out to the people that drive on their tires.

The Sport Science findings dont seem to support your attempt to debunk this math -if you saying that there can only be an 18 percent drop over the course of a 100 degrees of temperature change.

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I love all these vids but the reality is that this is a witch hunt and no one, especially in the media, gives a crap about truth. After a report about 11 under deflated balls came out the proverbial blood was in the water, the sharks have frenzied and now need to eat. They want a head and they want it now, put it on a platter serve it to the public "See how wonderful we in the media are, justice has been served".

These science vids are only good for twisting and fanning flames for them, most of them don't give a crap about truth...

rlcarr said:

King is a writer for SI and a miserable human being. However, he's also widely known as being a league toadie and suckup, so I think it's very reasonable to assume that his leak comports with the info the NFL has or wants known.

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The NFL wants us to know that there was no air pressure change in the Colts balls?

Does the NFL also want me to see Jesus-in-the-Toast?

stephens44 said:

Do the math yourself, don't rely on someone else then:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-temperature-pressure-density-d_771.html

There is nothing assumed in the actual scientific calculation using real numbers aside from assumeed room temp of 75 degrees for the locker room and a potential low of 45 degrees for the sideline. These numbers are a much closer match to the situation than whatyou linked. I'm not debunking anyone's math, I'm presenting factual numbers that speak for themselves.

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I prefer watching ESPN debunk their own story.

Jlaff said:

The thing is you have to expect someone from the Patriots either did or did not witness a pressure test by the refs when they checked the balls(unless sting scenario). I'd like to think this might be one possible ace up the sleeve for the team - "if you punish us, we'll reveal that your refs did no such pre-game pressure testing". Or maybe just one of the biggest evidentiary problems facing the NFL.

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If the Patriots had witnessed that, they should have said it immediately.

But now it's almost too late.

You can't blame it on the referees now.

We are pretty sure at least some element of this story is a sting/entrapment angle on the part of the COLTS and maybe also the Ravens. Not by the league. As long as we're playing out the conspiracy angle...is this a possibility?
- Pats inflated balls at 12.5, Colts at 13.5.
- Refs checked them out with gauges as has been leaked and reported.
- pressure inside balls fall due to temp change. Say both fell 1.5-2.0 PSI up to halftime, because there are plenty of new science reports and experiments proving this is possible.
- Pats busted, but why didn't Colts balls fall out of range also?

Everyone's focused on the guilt of the ballboy on the Pats side. What if they did nothing...but the Colts equipment manager re-inflated all their balls surreptitiously to be back over the limit? How do we know someone trying to frame the Pats didn't do this?

upstater1 said:

If the Patriots had witnessed that, they should have said it immediately.

But now it's almost too late.

You can't blame it on the referees now.

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They might not want to start inflaming the NFL before the investigation starts with accusations to the media their referees weren't following procedure, especially with the Rodgers story.

grux said:

This makes the most sense and I hope is what happened to the balls. However, good luck getting the NFL to admit they made a mistake.

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Come on, if these leaks are Real, one of the 1st leaks we would have had would be that the refs measured the pregame balls with a gauge ! Maybe Badell will just wait for this to die down and give his verdict. Again the PAts know if they used a gauge or not. but becasue of Kraft they are not telling.

I still haven't seen anyone confirm that the Pats' balls were individually checked with a pressure gauge before the game. That seems like a fairly crucial piece of information that you would need to nail down before venturing off into conspiracy theories.

Bertil said:

He has obviously started with a conclusion in mind and evolved a tortured justification to support it.

I'd bet they were NEVER checked with a pressure gauge before the game.

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And you'll note, he does not say they were checked with the pressure gauge before the start of the game.

PatriotsReign said:

Great points! I guess there were many reporters present for Brady's question/answer session that aren't even sports reporters. Some woman from CNN actually asked Brady, "Tom, what would you tell the children?"

Which would be a classic CNN perspective! Tom should have replied, "Who cares about the children?"

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"Tom, what would you tell the children?"

TFB: "Eat your vegetables and stop picking on your sister."

If the pats inflated balls to 12.5 they would be out of regulation the moment a needle was inserted

upstater1 said:

The NFL wants us to know that there was no air pressure change in the Colts balls?

Does the NFL also want me to see Jesus-in-the-Toast?

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In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Toast.

Peter King is a liar! Below is a photo of the REAL culprit, at home. He made his way into Gillette Stadium under guise of a service dog and sneaked into the equipment room pregame where he thought he'd won the lottery.

Tunescribe said:

Peter King is a liar! Below is a photo of the REAL culprit, at home. He made his way into Gillette Stadium under guise of a service dog and sneaked into the equipment room pregame where he thought he'd won the lottery.

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Don't let Terrence Cody near him.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/23/terrence-cody-being-investigated-for-animal-cruelty/

Tunescribe said:

Peter King is a liar! Below is a photo of the REAL culprit, at home. He made his way into Gillette Stadium under guise of a service dog and sneaked into the equipment room pregame where he thought he'd won the lottery.

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Holy cow, look how flat that ball is! Any team playing with it would win 100-0!