MediaGate: 13 psi -> 9 psi outdoors after 30 minutes

Patradomous said:

Do you understand why the NFL was distraught and disappointed in the under inflated balls?

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They should be distraught and disappointed that they are too stupid to know basic laws of Physics.

The Brandon Five said:

They should be distraught and disappointed that they are too stupid to know basic laws of Physics.

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I'll tell you what. The NFL will still want somebody's head because they got caught on their own lying and cheating over Ravens and RiceGate. thats what sucks.

Patradomous said:

Do you understand why the NFL was distraught and disappointed in the under inflated balls?
The NFL has its own credibility issues. And they are pressured by the outside media and the rest of the country to get a pound of flesh out of what they know is a trivial violation of the rules.
Somebody is going to swing from this and it shouldn't happen but likley will.
I don't blame BB for not taking one in the neck for the team he already did that.
I gotta feeling he has told the team that if you do something outside the rules it on yo

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Only issue with what you are saying is that no one broke any rules whatsoever. If the rulebook says 12.5 is ok and it is established that they were handed in like that, then it is not the Patriots problem if the balls get deflated throughout the game.

I can't help but wonder about the potential effect of an electric pump.

Perhaps it dispenses hotter air, so naturally there's a greater pressure drop following exposure to a colder environment? And perhaps the Colts used a hand-pump that dispensed air at room temperature, coupled with a greater starting PSI?

The Brandon Five said:

That time is shortened by rain. Water is a significantly greater conductor of heat.

Thermal conductivities (at 25 deg C):

Air = 0.024
Water=0.58

So Water is roughly 24 times as conductive.

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Yes, and it is wet outside, so the air inside the football gets cold quickly and loses pressure. It is then toweled off after each play and takes longer to warm-up when it is carried inside in the ball bag.

What the Colts did should be irrelevant to the discussion. NOBODY's going to turn their attention to their role in this story. They're the team that was beat up by the CHEATRIOTS, BELICHEAT, etc (and whatever other stupid nickname has been provided over the years).

It's going to be up to the NFL to show that this was a non-issue.

Unfortunately, nobody in the sensationalist media or the incredibly inebriated fandoms across the league will ever accept any conclusion reached by the NFL after their PR disaster of a year.

pencilneckgeek said:

Yes, and it is wet outside, so the air inside the football gets cold quickly and loses pressure. It is then toweled off after each play and takes longer to warm-up when it is carried inside in the ball bag.

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Right, so only a couple of balls might be exposed to water at any point in time...

At this point there are too many variables to say how much deflation could have been due to change in temp. In order to scientifically recreate the situation you would need:

The exact temperature at which the balls were inflated (and at what time) and the pressure to which they were filled.
The temperature at which the balls were measured by officials (and at what time) and what the measurements were.
Recreate the on-field conditions (temperature, wind and rainfall).
Replay the first half exactly as it happened.
Measure the balls in an environment that matches the one on Sunday night.

dannydyn said:

PSI would go higher... but would not be immediate (may take half hour or longer) and will depend on the room temp.

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Yes, and given that they were in a time crunch (it was halftime of the AFCCG), they couldn't have waited for enough time to control for that. Granted, if it's 2 psi difference difference, I'm skeptical that that alone could account for it. But if it's less than that, then that's a pretty clear explanation.

BUT, did they or did they not test the Colts footballs at the time they did the Patriots? I haven't seen anything in any form of media where those balls were also tested, during or after the game to compare the results.

did brady stole mark brunell's wife?


or boned his daughter?

just saw brunell's true color on first take and it was whole lotta animosity toward the GOAT.

Did he? no.

Could he? yes.

I typically listen to people who blow $50M in earnings and declare bankruptcy. Those are usually the people who provide the most rational, intelligent thoughts on matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lew-50million-dollars-failed-investments.html

The Brandon Five said:

It needed to be -77 for what?

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At the end of the video he points out that solving the equation yielded ridiculous results. -77 might be -73 or something similarly ridiculous - frankly at that point I was on you tube sharing it and not paying close attention.

Still butthurt over losing the 96 AFCCG to NE...

From what i can tell hes a self righteous born-again type that probably thinks brady and belichick are satanic

letekro said:

From what i can tell hes a self righteous born-again type that probably thinks brady and belichick are satanic

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they're not??? Oh crap!

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

I typically listen to people who blow $50M in earnings and declare bankruptcy. Those are usually the people who provide the most rational, intelligent thoughts on matters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lew-50million-dollars-failed-investments.html

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Have to admit, that is a special kinda stupid right there..now he has to work on ESPN, can kinda understand it now knowing how he got there...poor fella.

He's been parading around on every espn program trying to throw them under the bus. Its even funnier watching these news programs trying to cover this and basically just trying their hardest to say that this was a major advantage for the Patriots and how this is a huge deal. Knowing most of these people probably don't get any other football news outside of these types of programs and the local news/newspapers its easy to see how this Patriots are cheaters narrative has taken off. Best way to deal with it is to be an elitist and let them know they don't know what they're talking about because they really don't.

He made some claim that the could have thrown a slightly deflated ball 10 yards farther than the standard inflated ball. Really wish the host had said, 'prove it now or shut up;.

He was last with the Jets. That's all you need to know.