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One hour ago, a video was posted on YouTube by a random woodworker who has multiple tools to test multiple measurements. For each of temperature and pressure, he has a fancy tool and a simple tool.



INDOORS: Inflating the ball to 13 PSI with a hefty electronic pump and removing the needle quickly, and then testing it with a manual tire pressure tool, removing the needle quickly, and going back to the electronic pump, shows the ball now at 11 PSI. That's because you always lose a bit of air by testing again. The other issue is that even a fancy pump is only accurate to 0.5 PSI, so that's already 0.5 PSI leeway in favor of the Patriots. Basically, just testing the ball over a 5 hour period indoors will show a loss of PSI.

OUTDOORS: Inflating the ball indoors to 13 PSI with the electronic pump, and bringing it outside to Foxborough weather for only 30 minutes, dropped the pressure to 9 and 9.5 PSI. Seriously.

Remember that in the real game, the balls had 4+ hours to adapt to the outdoors.

Did the Colts cheat and over-inflate their balls to 16 PSI, which the referees allowed, so that they were still valid later in the game once they lost air pressure?

Of course nobody would say that. The most logical answer is that their balls were inflated outdoors (or stored in the un-heated luggage compartment inside their bus) and likely kept them on the bus next to the practice field and handed them off directly to the officials once they were ready to practice so they didn't have to leave them inside with the hosts. There was no pressure change for Colts to deal with.

Did the Patriots cheat and remove air after giving the balls to the referees?

Of course not. This video shows the most logical explanation that a Wilson ball can lose 4 PSI in 30 minutes once it's brought outside. The hosts store and pump up their game balls inside, as there is no reason to store or bring the balls outside 2.5 hours ahead of the time in the cold and heavy rain when the referees can check them indoors away from heavy rain.

If cold temperature brings the air pressure down by 4 PSI in a cheaper Wilson after 30 minutes, we can assume that air contracts just the same in a more expensive ball, especially after 4-5 hours, too. The air doesn't care how fancy the container is, assuming that synthetic leather stretches and conducts temperature fairly similarly to real leather.

If the real game balls deflated by only 2 PSI after 4-5 hours, then it looks like the media owes the Patriots an apology.

According to reports, referees do not normally measure the air pressure at half-time, and often do not measure the balls before the game, either. Therefore, the NFL must repeat this simple test with real game balls, which I'm sure the Patriots have already lent to the NFL to make the test as real as possible (new balls might behave differently.) And even in the case something doesn't add up, they would have to guess how much of an effect it had in the first half, which is none.

At half-time, the referee can fix the balls by pumping them up on the field, and they will of course remain at the valid pressure for the remaining 2 hours since they're already at the temperature of the field.

However, the referee has another option, by rule. We might learn that Tom Brady took the Colts balls, figuratively or literally, scoring the bulk of the points in the game. This would happen if the officials followed the rulebook to the letter and removed the Patriots balls from the game, and Tom Brady had to use the 12 extra footballs the Colts had the option to bring to the game. It would be funny for the media to explain why the Patriots did better with the Colts footballs, if this is the case.

Aaron Rodgers hates when referees bring balls down to the lower allowed range (12.5 PSI) two hours prior to the game. But as the video shows, what if the air pressure inside the ball naturally drops to 9, 10, or 11 PSI on a cold day in December by the time he touches it, and wonders why the balls feel so funny and why the referee is being such a jerk. He's learned over time to request that balls be over-inflated in case the referee doesn't care. What he might really be doing is hoping to play with a regulation ball in those cold weather games that matter the most, and that the end result is not over-inflated after all.

Unfortunately, the Patriots could not simply inflate the balls themselves once the balls feel deflated without being called cheaters (we would have InflateGate instead of our current MediaGate). Nor would a home team want to inflate the balls outside and lose advantage of a slightly deflated ball. What likely happens is somewhere in-between, where a team developed a schedule of inspecting and bringing out the footballs to the referees, possibly different on particularly cold or wet days, and living with the resulting feel of the ball for the entire game. If the balls feel too soft, the Patriots and Packers likely blame the referees for taking too much air out. After all, they can't take measurements or add air during the game as the pressure drops.
 
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This video proves the Pats did nothing to the balls. It also proves that it was, in fact, the Colts that somehow manipulated their balls. This video needs to be put up on every site discussing Deflategate.
 
Nice find...it be great to see that test on a brand new ball though
 
Nice find...it be great to see that test on a brand new ball though

Quarterbacks never use brand new balls (at any level of play).

Professional teams go as far as hiring equipment guys to break balls in over a period of months, which includes repeatedly brushing the coating of the leather, water-boarding the leather, applying their own process to the ball, and then practicing with it for months while Eli chooses which balls to promote to a game ball, throw away, or leave in practice. The New York Times reported on the level of preparation the Giants go through every season. The actual process is a secret that's taken the Giants 10 years of trial and error.

Funny that Rodgers and Eli have been to the Super Bowl together more than the Patriots in recent years but it's not cheating when they talk about it.
 
Quarterbacks never use brand new balls though (at any level of play). That slightly used ball is a better example than the brand-new balls EPSN "tested" with on TV without any kind of numbers of visuals of their tests.

Professional teams have equipment guys break balls in. The New York Times reported on the level of preparation the Giants go through every season. They've perfected a great way of brushing the ball's coating off, soaking it wet, beating it up over and over again prior to using it for practice for months and choosing 1 ball that Eli likes for every dozen that go through the process. The actual process is a secret that's taken them 10 years of trial and error.

Funny that Rodgers and Eli have been to the Super Bowl together more than the Patriots in recent years but it's not cheating when they talk about it.

Yeah, but that ball looks like it was used when the Pats played at Fenway.

But seriously, this is an interesting video
 
The struggle we have as pats fans is recognizing that we are not involved in a logical, rational debate. No amount of evidence or valid arguments will make this witch hunt go away. It's a nice find but it won't change minds that don't care about facts. Which is most of them. If people were patiently waiting for the nfl report before setting their minds it would be a different story. But as it stands, the angry mob wants no facts.
 
Unfortunately, I don't think a 8 year old, non regulation ball is going to be scientific enough.


I don't think the 8 year old commish will get it.


fixed that for you
 
That somebody actually measured a used football indoors, brought it outdoors, and measured it again is the best scientific test anybody has done publicly to this day.

Yes, but that ball is nothing like the balls used on gameday. So, although in theory it's a good idea, from a scientific standpoint he might as well have done it with a rugby ball for all that it actually proves.
 
The ball in the video dropped to 9 PSI in 30 minutes. The Pats balls dropped to 11 PSI in just about an hour and a half or whatever the time it was for the first half.

Perhaps the ball being so old is why it dropped so low. If it had been a newer ball then perhaps it would have dropped to the same amount as the Pats balls.
 
This is indeed encouraging from a the Pats' standpoint, BUT!...

I highly doubt the Colts would temper with their own balls at the expense of risking sloppy performance by their own offense, just to nail the Patriots. I think a win for them is more important than nailing the Pats on something.
 
Did they measure the Colts balls to compare?
 
The Colts cheated?"

Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
 
I just had the exact same thought about the gauge. Someone should send this to all the idiot "reporters".
 
Yes, but that ball is nothing like the balls used on gameday. So, although in theory it's a good idea, from a scientific standpoint he might as well have done it with a rugby ball for all that it actually proves.

Yes, but read the NYT article about how ELI treats his balls (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/s...-are-months-in-making.html?pagewanted=2&_r=4&).

They are beat to hell. Everybody treats their balls differently, some rub them, some scratch them, others pound them. Each ball is going to be different in how it hold air. These are not new balls!

And yes, I said scratch and rub your balls.

I am more convinced then ever that the Colts over-inflatted their balls and this actually may have negatively impacted their game!
 
The NFL should put an end on this today so we can enjoy the weekend. Decide what's going to be done from now on and move on. Put the responsibility of inflating and taking care of ball games on refs or NFL people from now on, just like the kicking balls and stop with this ****
 
The struggle we have as pats fans is recognizing that we are not involved in a logical, rational debate. No amount of evidence or valid arguments will make this witch hunt go away. It's a nice find but it won't change minds that don't care about facts. Which is most of them. If people were patiently waiting for the nfl report before setting their minds it would be a different story. But as it stands, the angry mob wants no facts.
It's ******** that the NFL allowed this to leak. **** you Mort.
 
The counterarguments are that the weather was reasonably warm that day and that, supposedly, the Colts' balls weren't deflated.
 
The patriots should perform this same test. Also what effect will cold water (ie rain) have on the air pressure of the ball...
 
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