Deflate-Gate: Here We Go Again

seven · Jan 21, 2015

NFL needs to prove it.
Not going to happen.
Because the balls were not altered.

Again, simply starting out from an 82 degree room would do it.

Ride it out.
Haters gonna hate, so be it.

By next week, the unstable Mr Wilson will frame it as a battle of good vs evil,
God on their side.
Vladimir Putin will comment, while wearing Mr K's ring
History repeated as farce.
Ratings of this game will be a moon shot.

NENGFAN · Jan 21, 2015

Danger Zone said:
I really dislike Felger and Mazz 90% of the time and have no doubt I'd have been grinding my teeth if I had listened to their show today.

That said.. I heartily applaud them for doing this.

This is a point that really, really needed made.

It is extremely difficult to tell the difference between a 12.5 psi football and an 11 psi football.

The margins of psi involved in these "cheating" accusations are incredibly, incredibly, incredibly minuscule.

But then why do it? Are the Pats that stupid?

Skeeter712 · Jan 21, 2015

robertweathers said:
I'm in the camp that BB had nothing to do with this...

I think TB is behind this nonsense.

What might happen is BB will take the hit to protect the player.

You're kidding right?

ChesBay · Jan 21, 2015

juny said:
Maybe this rule exists because that is what the ball manufacturer recommends for optimum conditions for the ball? Like I go to my NBA official basketball and it is stamped: "INFLATE 7 TO 9 lbs".

I wouldn't be surprised at all...that it's simply a manufacturer's recommended inflation range...predicated on the "amateur" opinion of the manufacturer (vs the professional opinion of all-star QBs)...and with no correlation whatsoever to anything else.

nowayback · Jan 21, 2015

Lets say BB is sick of other qb's using overinflated or under balls and other teams tampering with balls. He could complain forever ..nothing would change. How about now? You think something will change?

. he had to spit blood to get the goalposts raised

He got rid of the cameras that way

SVN · Jan 21, 2015

Grizzafted said:
I will say this:

I don't want to see any of that cute "mum's the word, on to seattle" sh*t from Bill tomorrow. This isn't going to go away by stonewalling or lawyering up and acting like it's his right to ignore the universe in his role as pre-eminent football coach. It's going to be the only thing the media talks about for two weeks and the fan base doesn't deserve some Goldman Sachs routine from the coaching staff.

If you did it: sack up and admit it tomorrow, apologize and say you're prepared to deal with league consequences, say you didn't think it was a significant advantage or whatever, but that you want to give the country the opportunity to talk about f*cking football and not PSI for the next ten days.

If you didn't do it: come out and say it and get angry, fight back and challenge the allegations out there.

Silence is going to look like complicity, and although I'm sure Bill won't want to humble himself before the hated media and speak actual sentences with feeling and honesty about this, he actually has to do just that tomorrow in order to get things on track here. He owes that to the team.

That buttoned up "all we do is win football games" sh!t sort of flew around Spygate but this is strike two and it actually doesn't matter how many games you win if you look like you're a cheater.

There's no option but tackling this head-on, from the entire organization. It's fine if you don't want rank and file players talking about this. Keep Brady out of it if need be. But Bill, you have to man up and open your mouth tomorrow, period. It's the only option you have.

Unless there is a league announcement on the findings , thats what you are going to get from BB. And that is fine because unless he ahs been charged with something there is no need to apologize upfront or deny anything and create more story.

SunsOutGunsOut · Jan 21, 2015

https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

Danger Zone · Jan 21, 2015

NENGFAN said:
But then why do it? Are the Pats that stupid?

Assumption of guilt there.

A loss of 1.5 psi is well within the realm of what would be the expected loss in psi had the footballs been inflated with indoor temperature air.

As it has been point out, the math comes out to be 82 degrees.

At worst, do you really think it was cheating if the Patriots filled their footballs with 82 degree temperature air?

And I'm pretty sure that figure doesn't include a lot of little x-factors that other experts have included in their own calculations. It just takes a couple of these other x-factors to be true and we are looking at another loss of .25 or so in psi.

We only need to account for a TOTAL loss of 1.5 psi.

Joey007 · Jan 21, 2015

Someone on another thread said they think Brady could get suspended for the SB.

Anyone else think this is possible?

Bourne Again Christian · Jan 21, 2015

No way.

SunsOutGunsOut · Jan 21, 2015

Joey007 said:
Someone on another thread said they think Brady could get suspended for the SB.

Anyone else think this is possible?

No way.. Zero/Point/Zero

patsinthesnow · Jan 21, 2015

Joey007 said:
Someone on another thread said they think Brady could get suspended for the SB.

Anyone else think this is possible?

Absolutely no way.

I can envision a scenario of BB getting suspended if this crapfest keeps unraveling though.

Todd Bradley · Jan 21, 2015

This is probably the most frustrated I think I've ever been as a fan, more so than Spygate, because at least then there was certified proof, whether or not it was overblown is another matter.

But this is such a joke, every news and radio station are running segments comparing the two balls and no one can even tell the difference, with most guessing completely WRONG. The most important aspect of this is that if anything, it HURT the Pats, rather than helped. Once this mistake, and that's exactly what it seems to be, was corrected by the refs, it only helped improve their game.

What ticks me off the most is that Kraft, once again, is sitting on his hands and letting his team, once again, take a beating by the overzealous and blood thirsty media idiots.

As a loyal fan, I'm completely sick of this crap. Stick up for your damn team Bob and the fans who pay your bills.

RobertWeathers · Jan 21, 2015

Kdo5 said:
If anyone, I'd tend to think it is TB12. Not that Bill will be spared but I see it that way.

Tom is the only player who directly confronted the report as ridiculous and false. Bill and the rest of the players basically said, "I don't know."

QBs have been messing with balls since the beginning of time. TB has a size 10 hand so it's not like he has small paws.

Just one of those "everyone does it" things that unfortunately got a spotlight on it and now the NSA, CIA, House Oversight Committee on Anti-Trust violations and PETA are waiting to get their teeth into the Patriots.

So stupid..

LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady · Jan 21, 2015

Since this is a popular thread, I thought I post some lighter news. Sherman talks about how Brady bashed him throughout the game in 2012.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/201...12-game-new-england-patriots-seattle-seahawks

juny · Jan 21, 2015

SunsOutGunsOut said:
https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

So Ravens tipped them off? I just thought their stupid head coach said they had no suspicions on this. smh, wtf, omg

Joey007 · Jan 21, 2015

SunsOutGunsOut said:
No way.. Zero/Point/Zero

Well I wouldn't think so either. It just happened to be that another poster posted that they think if Brady was behind this that he would likely be.

Was just wondering what others in this thread thought about that.

Guts · Jan 21, 2015

juny said:
So Ravens tipped them off? I just thought their stupid head coach said they had no suspicions on this. smh, wtf, omg

Too many contradictions to the story that we just have to wait til the league makes an official statement

flasox27 · Jan 21, 2015

SunsOutGunsOut said:
https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

You mean OL' Get along Bob's buddy, Goodell. Too bad nobody in the league down there is tired of the beat your wife crap from the Ravens or Tampering by the Jets.

nowayback · Jan 21, 2015

SunsOutGunsOut said:
https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

Maybe they are pissed cause they cant find any real evidence....cause we know they would love to hang BB high

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