Deflate-Gate: Here We Go Again

Wont be surprised if the equipment manager did this on his own .But BB will be held responsible. Hopefully they let him coach the SB but at this time I have lost all interest in it.

Not sure how pros are regarding this. But in college the people who decided how much air in the ball was the quarterback and equipment manager. Would be odd if bb was involved

Todd Bradley said:

Give it a rest.

The title of the article is a take on his personal feeling of what "should" happen "if" it's true.

Perhaps it's you that has a reading comprehension issue?

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My reading comprehension is fine. Did you miss the whole "IF" part there? Did you not see him hearken back to something he'd already written in his mailbag?

2 pounds or even 1.5 psi doesn't add up with the physics. The pressure wouldn't drop that much assuming a 30 degree difference between outside and inside....it was a warm evening for this time of year.

The Patriots save will be if the refs messed up.

This is from the Panthers kicker

Joey007 said:

What is he meaning in this Tweet?

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maybe that the league is angry, and distraught that the officials didn't follow correct procedure instead of the patriots deflating the football.

That seems strange that the ball boy would presumably be able to take the air out at such a precise rate in a secretive manner on the sideline, taking out an equal amount of air in each one. How would he be able to be that precise on the sideline without anyone noticing? "ahhh perfect, all the balls are down to 11 PSI." You'd need a pressure gauge to be able to figure that out. Not something you can do out in the open without the refs noticing

I kinda buy that "hot air" thing ppl were saying earlier. It'd meet requirements for the check, and then lose air after. Seems like an organized thing that they've done before.

As evidenced by the result of the game though, it clearly doesn't even make a difference lol.

Isn't it unusual for the refs to have had the balls for such a long time prior to the game?

How about the suspicion of the underweight balls on the road? Nothing was checked there apparently, but would the storage of the balls be different in an opposing stadium?

Is it possible that the Pats deliberately turned in underweight balls and the refs didn't catch it? I thought the refs were supposed to fix balls that were out of spec.

Maybe the Pats gage (even if they used one they know to be out of calibration) is inaccurate, still isn't it up to the refs to catch it?

Deus Irae said:

I have to assume you're kidding on this because, otherwise.... wow.

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What Reiss wrote is nonsense. No one knows what the weather did. What did the balls start at? For the Patriots to be accountable, someone deflated 11 balls to precisely 11 PSI during the first half.

Not sure why Mike Reiss is convinced that 11 of 12 balls being around 11 psi is damning, but two or three would not be.

If the drop in psi is based on physics (temperature change, exterior physical pressure, etc.), then it would make more sense that all of the footballs would drop in psi. If only a few dropped, then the physics theory would not make sense.

Seems to me that he has it backwards.

skri65 said:

Is not not possible that a ball would lose 2 PSI when subject to an NFL game in the cold?

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When brought back to room temp the PSI would increase. Unless there was a leak which doesn't seem to be the case. It is likely they were submitted at 11 PSI and allowed by the refs.

Its not looking good fellas but can we also punish Aaron Rodgers I mean its ridiculous he admitted to trying to get it past the officials.
Obviously teams do this and the Colts blew the whistle on us.
Just like the Jets did.
This tarnishes the legacy and maybe impacts hall of fame for Tom and Bill? God I hope not.

This is just effing perfect for the nfl, what better way to distract Goodell and the ray rice crap than another patrol scandal.

This smells to me and the league is more than happy to let us take the headlines and not Goodell as he makes the rounds for the media.

billdog3484 said:

Not sure how pros are regarding this. But in college the people who decided how much air in the ball was the quarterback and equipment manager. Would be odd if bb was involved

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Yeah this is what I'm hung up on. If we are indeed guilty it could involve Brady more so than Belichick.

Whats disturbing is the silence that this franchise has shown through all this crap.

Superbowl week is gonna be ugly and a big circus.

I see the writing on the wall.The seahags will be compared to a church choir besides us.

Well, it's looking like a super bowl win would effectively have an asterisk in the eyes of the casual fan. This sucks.

I also expect Goodell to drop the hammer. He's a PR whore, when the public is mad he reliably overreacts.

Damn, and just two days ago I thought this Super Bowl would actually be enjoyable.

Deus Irae said:

My reading comprehension is fine. Did you miss the whole "IF" part there? Did you not see him hearken back to something he'd already written in his mailbag?

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I'm not going to argue semantics with you.

I just had a flood of people agree with my post. You didn't, cool. Move on now.

upstater1 said:

What Reiss wrote is nonsense. No one knows what the weather did. What did the balls start at? For the Patriots to be accountable, someone deflated 11 balls to precisely 11 PSI during the first half.

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What Reiss wrote is not nonsense.

The way this has been slowly leaked out to the media and the amount of misinformation that has been spread is embarrassing. It's a sign of the times, I guess. News happens in minutes, which means it's also profitable for fake news to happen in minutes. Sigh. Just conduct the entire ****ing investigation and get it over with already.

Best case scenario is the pats pumped them up by feel to slightly below spec say 12 psi and the refs just didn't bother checking the psi. Then 12 became 11 in the cold.

Maybe the refs just routinely blow that off. Maybe that's how Rodgers gets his balls overinflated. Maybe the refs figure a ball is a ball and just go by feel.

Worst case is they messed with the balls after giving them to the refs. I think that's unlikely.

Second worst case is they used hot air to circumvent the standard. Kind of Belichick thing to do.