Deflate-Gate: Here We Go Again

BelichickFan said:

I think the fans have the 5 pound weights.

The players, likely, have a "Deflate This MFer" attitude based on the quotes from Bruschi earlier.

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That would make an awesome pic. Coach BB holding the Lombardi, and a saying underneath it "Deflate this Mother F***ers !!!! If they win the SB, they ought to get shirts printed with that on it. That would be great !!!

“If the footballs were notably lower pressure, then the only way it could have happened was if someone went in and stuck a needle in the ball and let two-thirds of the gas out..."

LOL? Makes no sense.

Belichick8384 said:

I'm hearing that the interception Brady threw is what "sparked NFL inquiry into whether Patriots deflated balls"

But I can't find the source. Anybody hear anything about this?

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Yes, apparently Brady was able to grip an under-inflated ball so well he threw a bueatiful spiral right to his intended target D'qwell Jackson. Read back a few pages in this short thread. Shouldn't take to long to find it.

This is a witchhunt because the NFL is taking so long to explain this. I remember in 2007 when the videotaping stuff broke , HOF players like Steve Young were talking so much nonsense like," team can take the tape into half time and watch it and see where the blitz is coming from and it becomes pitch and catch" etc etc....without any credible info. Same crap happens here.

Gronk had a pretty funny response to Deflate-gate that I'd like to share if you haven't seen it yet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7xDxzGCIAIwhzk.jpg

How the hell has this blown up, but Rodgers over-inflating balls hasn't? Especially given his mind-boggling numbers at home, in comparison to the drastically different numbers on the road?

Aaron Rodgers does it but hey he is not a pat so... Keep hating NFL. Been through this too many times for this to get me down.

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ar...eater-who-overinflates-footballs-inflategate/

'I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it.' ....Because he thinks it’s easier for him to grip.

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John Clayton is on WEEI and thinks the Pats deflated the ball.

Jerk.

The thing about the Rodgers quote is Simms says that sometimes the refs know about it, or over inflate it on his behalf. That should be big news, if one Colt whined about one ball being soft is big news.

rlcarr said:

(And I say that's what they've been accused of doing because it's only screwing with the balls after submitting them that's subject to a penalty, so there's not any point to investigating NE for submitting underinflated balls to the refs -- it's the refs' job to inflate to spec any submitted underinflated balls during pre-game prep.)

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I have not seen anywhere that they are accused of tampering midgame. Please enlighten me.

In other news, how about the Panthers and Vikings being warned pre-game to not warm up their footballs, and then blatantly ignoring that and doing it anyways?
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-v...of-game-ball-incident-during-panthers-vikings

Foxboro Witch Hunt

http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/1/20...kings-admit-ball-manipulation-nothing-happens

Just got a picture of the people doing the investigation

ctpatsfan77 said:

Only because you asked for this steaming pile. . . .

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...her_couldn_t_have_deflated_patriots_footballs

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I'm a physicist (PhD), and this is either sloppy reporting or sloppy science. A decrease in temperature will correspond to a decrease in pressure--guaranteed. If the balls had been inflated indoors, where the temperature was (presumably) higher than it was outdoors, then moving the balls outdoors will cause pressure decrease--guaranteed. Now, if the balls had been inflated to the minimum allowed pressure, then moving them outdoors would cause them to be under the minimum allowed pressure--with no tampering.

ctpatsfan77 said:

Only because you asked for this steaming pile. . . .

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...her_couldn_t_have_deflated_patriots_footballs

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How can a physicist be so bad at math?

Two thirds less of 12.5 is 4.17, not 11.5.

Besides, if the footballs were at 4.17 psi they would have been impossible to miss, and nearly impossible to throw.


If (as the conspiracy theorists and Pats-bashers insist) this was all planned out by Belichick and the Patriots, then with that in mind why would the Pats call for any long pass plays? The Herald article claims that an under-inflated ball is easier to throw, but that is factually incorrect. While it may be easier to grip, an under-inflated ball is more difficult to throw and will not travel as well through the air. On the contrary, an over-inflated ball (as Aaron Rodgers noted) is more favorable for a quarterback to throw.

Has anyone simply asked the question: Why is this even a rule? If offensive players supply their own balls, why does the NFL care if they inflate to 10 PSI, 13 PSI or 175 PSI. If the balls are produced by the same factory, and meet all the phyiscal requirements, and a QB likes it a certain way, why even have the regulation? What is it preventing besides a QB playing with his preferred style ball?

Every team would forever be on a level playing field. No one would have an advantage any other team had. Teams could adjust their own inflation to weather conditions. If anything, it would help offenses (and pretty much ever rule change of the last 5 years has).

fake punt said:

I'm a physicist (PhD), and this is either sloppy reporting or sloppy science. A decrease in temperature will correspond to a decrease in pressure--guaranteed. If the balls had been inflated indoors, where the temperature was (presumably) higher than it was outdoors, then moving the balls outdoors will cause pressure decrease--guaranteed. Now, if the balls had been inflated to the minimum allowed pressure, then moving them outdoors would cause them to be under the minimum allowed pressure--with no tampering.

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He mentions no temperatures or PSI for his formula. It's been pretty widely reported that the temperature drop alone from filling them in at 70 degrees to a couple hours at 40 degree temps would result in a .5 PSI drop. His article also reads like he knows what the PSI of the deflated ball was "...not possible for the pressure drop you are talking about"

chasa said:

Just got a picture of the people doing the investigation

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That story was more believable than deflate-gate.