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As noted by others Pit fans have a right to be pissed at Blount. After all, BLOUNT is the one who forced their hand and it would suck to see him BENEFIT from not being a team player.

I think we all would feel slighted and full of bitterness if we saw Adalius Thomas going to the Super Bowl in 2009 (and playing a key role).

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If Tomlin had better management skills, Blount would still be there.

The proper way for the Steelers to handle it, and I'm sure i have details wrong, is to suspend him for 2 or 4 games. (I forget what the new CBA allows and don't care enough to look it up.) In that time try to trade him. I don't know what they'd get - a bag of balls is better than what they got.

Then, if not satisfied in whatever way - apologizing via press, apologizing to team, hat in hand apologizing to Tolim, whatever - pay him to stay away. Anyone wondering if there is precedent for that, search T.O and Terry Glenn.
 
The Steelers released him after the trade deadline so that was not an option
 
The CBA changed after the Terrell Owens incident.
 
As noted by others Pit fans have a right to be pissed at Blount. After all, BLOUNT is the one who forced their hand and it would suck to see him BENEFIT from not being a team player.

I think we all would feel slighted and full of bitterness if we saw Adalius Thomas going to the Super Bowl in 2009 (and playing a key role).

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Thank you for this extremely sensible post :)

I would just add, I think there's a healthy percentage of Steeler fans that' aren't so much 'bitter' about this as they're just shaking their heads at the stupidity of it... I said this in another thread, in ANY job in America, if you generally act like a knucklehead, underperform, and literally *walk off the job* when things don't go your way, you're gonna get canned.

I keep seeing the same argument running through these threads, that Blount pouting and acting extremely immaturely in the face of a bit of adversity -- to the point where he walked out on his own team -- is somehow an indictment of Steelers management. But Blount didn't act immaturely because of mismanagement -- he acted immaturely because he's just not a particularly mature guy. This is something he's shown repeatedly -- from his time at Oregon, through his five different NFL teams in five years. If you're gonna ding Pittsburgh, you'd be better served dinging them for signing him in the first place, with all of his red flags.

Your locker room is the best in the biz, and it doesn't surprise me you can get him to tow the line...but remember he's getting lead dog carries there. Maybe if a Le'Veon Bell-type had emerged as your lead back, relegating Blount to mopup duty, you'd have problems with Blount as well. And I don't think anyone would argue that if he committed the same act for New England -- walking out on his team -- he'd be cut...like, immediately. (And Patriot Nation would probably fully support such an action!)

Ironically enough my FF playoff team might win me a lot of money if Blount has another good game. (What a weird, torturous position for a Pitt fan to be in :p)

FWIW I think you guys are going to absolutely smoke Seattle. I was on target in saying here that the Baltimore game would stay within the spread (but sheesh, not in a 35-31 shootout...THAT was surprising) But with Seattle, IMHO they just don't match up particularly well. Their offense seems punchless, and it's hard to imagine them keeping up with NE's scoring ...plus their pass rush simply isn't getting much push this year. That's a bad combination against NE. So, calling my shot: 38-17 Pats.

- lillloyd
 
Not sure Blount would of helped them vs Baltimore anyway. Baltimores run defense was peaking for the playoffs. Not sure if Bell would of been the difference in that game? Maybe his pass catching ability would have helped? Right now they are probably crying over the what if scenario.

Glad to have him back though. That's for sure.

That's another thing about all of this for Pitt fans: Blount would not have done anything to stop Brandon Williams and Haloti Ngata from steamrolling our OL. Blount or no Blount, we were losing to Baltimore.

As you say, even Bell might not have helped too much. Pitt lost that game at the line of scrimmage.
 
nice post, Lloyd but...how's dem balls feeling? A little deflated? we'd love to talk actual NFL football but the balls aren't in our court right now...:confused:
 
Thank you for this extremely sensible post :)
Your locker room is the best in the biz, and it doesn't surprise me you can get him to tow the line...but remember he's getting lead dog carries there. Maybe if a Le'Veon Bell-type had emerged as your lead back, relegating Blount to mopup duty, you'd have problems with Blount as well. And I don't think anyone would argue that if he committed the same act for New England -- walking out on his team -- he'd be cut...like, immediately. (And Patriot Nation would probably fully support such an action!)

It may be more like he wanted primary back carries with the Steelers and didn't get them. The Pats play the "one more screw-up and you're done" card well. Blount has played well under that cloud, last year and now.

And I agree - pop off and BB will send you packing (if Blount did the same with the Pats he would be traded to the Bucs for a ham sandwich to get him out of the conference or released - the Pats want value in all roster spots). It took time with Adalius Thomas, but Moss found himself with the Vikings moments after he called out the Pats. A bit of stretch to say the Pats can control everybody. and 2009 was a mess with those players.
 
nice post, Lloyd but...how's dem balls feeling? A little deflated? we'd love to talk actual NFL football but the balls aren't in our court right now...:confused:
LOL. Hopefully for everyone's sakes this will be out of the news cycle by mid-week.
 
It may be more like he wanted primary back carries with the Steelers and didn't get them. The Pats play the "one more screw-up and you're done" card well. Blount has played well under that cloud, last year and now.

And I agree - pop off and BB will send you packing (if Blount did the same with the Pats he would be traded to the Bucs for a ham sandwich to get him out of the conference or released - the Pats want value in all roster spots). It took time with Adalius Thomas, but Moss found himself with the Vikings moments after he called out the Pats. A bit of stretch to say the Pats can control everybody. and 2009 was a mess with those players.

On the whole though you guys do REALLY well with players who are on the edge, dating back to the Corey Dillon days. Look at Richard Seymour -- I don't remember him ever really having trouble with NE, but he went to the Raiders and pretty much became an on-field maniac absent the Patriots' structure. And while it's morbid to even bring it up, the fact is that AH was pretty much *literally* an insane person...and I don't ever recall him having any problems at all between the lines with NE (?) The NFL isn't a league of choir boys, but you guys get them into NE and all of a sudden they're company men willing to do whatever it takes. That's no accident IMO...you guys have a uniquely strong organization and locker room. It's extremely impressive.

FWIW I kind of like Blount in spite of it all -- he seems more of a chronic knucklehead than someone who's actually some kind of bad guy. I'll bet that when he read that apology, he meant it,--or at least he understood he screwed up and was genuinely grateful to get another chance with NE.
 
On the whole though you guys do REALLY well with players who are on the edge, dating back to the Corey Dillon days. Look at Richard Seymour -- I don't remember him ever really having trouble with NE, but he went to the Raiders and pretty much became an on-field maniac absent the Patriots' structure. And while it's morbid to even bring it up, the fact is that AH was pretty much *literally* an insane person...and I don't ever recall him having any problems at all between the lines with NE (?) The NFL isn't a league of choir boys, but you guys get them into NE and all of a sudden they're company men willing to do whatever it takes. That's no accident IMO...you guys have a uniquely strong organization and locker room. It's extremely impressive.

FWIW I kind of like Blount in spite of it all -- he seems more of a chronic knucklehead than someone who's actually some kind of bad guy. I'll bet that when he read that apology, he meant it,--or at least he understood he screwed up and was genuinely grateful to get another chance with NE.

lillloyd, Do you know why Blount had zero carries in what turned out the be his last game in Pittsburgh? Had he been making noise before that and the coaches decided "You're not happy with being a backup and are going to be a distraction? How about you sit back and watch and learn to be a team player." I'm not implying that the Steelers were wrong with that approach, I just wasn't sure if that was the case.
 
lillloyd, Do you know why Blount had zero carries in what turned out the be his last game in Pittsburgh? Had he been making noise before that and the coaches decided "You're not happy with being a backup and are going to be a distraction? How about you sit back and watch and learn to be a team player." I'm not implying that the Steelers were wrong with that approach, I just wasn't sure if that was the case.
I'm not sure TBH. One thing lost in all of this was his actual on-the-field performance -- outside of some garbage carries against a deflated, beaten CAR team in week 2, he was averaging less than 3 yards a carry, and was coming up small in situational/short yardage situations. Bell was having the game of his career, and Bell is such a terrific all-around back (not just running but catching and pass pro as well) that the coaches may have been reluctant to take him out, particularly when he was getting close to a significant milestone (200 yards).

A couple of telling signs that Blount's final act was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' rather than some sort of isolated incident: first, the swiftness of the release (at a NEED position no less - remember, the Steelers knew they needed depth there, it's why they signed Blount in the first place), and secondly the reports that came pouring out from Steelers beat writers that this had been going on for a month or more. It seemed like he was already in the doghouse well before he walked out on the team.
 
Look at Richard Seymour -- I don't remember him ever really having trouble with NE, but he went to the Raiders and pretty much became an on-field maniac absent the Patriots' structure.

I didn't know that. But I was always a bit worried about Seymour and potential anger issues, given how he worshipped his murderer father.

Anyhow, a classic example of your generalization is Randy Moss.
 
The way Tate played for the Steelers in the playoffs, they would have been better off with Wahlbergs best
friend Ted running the ball.
 
The NFL isn't a league of choir boys, but you guys get them into NE and all of a sudden they're company men willing to do whatever it takes. That's no accident IMO...you guys have a uniquely strong organization and locker room. It's extremely impressive.

I really wish that all Steeler fans were willing to admit some of the good that comes from our organization, lillloyd.

I have a healthy respect for their organization, but not their fanbase--outside of those like yourself.
 
The way Tate played for the Steelers in the playoffs, they would have been better off with Wahlbergs best
friend Ted running the ball.

I really thought that Tate was going to be a halfway decent off season signing for the Browns. Talk about being wrong x100!
 
I'm not sure TBH. One thing lost in all of this was his actual on-the-field performance -- outside of some garbage carries against a deflated, beaten CAR team in week 2, he was averaging less than 3 yards a carry, and was coming up small in situational/short yardage situations. Bell was having the game of his career, and Bell is such a terrific all-around back (not just running but catching and pass pro as well) that the coaches may have been reluctant to take him out, particularly when he was getting close to a significant milestone (200 yards).

A couple of telling signs that Blount's final act was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' rather than some sort of isolated incident: first, the swiftness of the release (at a NEED position no less - remember, the Steelers knew they needed depth there, it's why they signed Blount in the first place), and secondly the reports that came pouring out from Steelers beat writers that this had been going on for a month or more. It seemed like he was already in the doghouse well before he walked out on the team.

I believe something that was brought up quite frequently was their concern that he may be a negative influence on LeVeon Bell.

Living in the city of Pittsburgh, I've heard this thought a bunch of times. As you said, there were other factors as well.
 
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