Acquiring talent on offense

https://twitter.com/AronYohannes/status/556235609724174336

The Seahawks have spent VERY little draft currency on their offense. The Packers have spent more; Rodgers is helped by 4 second-round picks and 1 third-rounder. By way of contrast, Brady is helped by 1 first-round pick (Solder) and 3 second-round pics (Gronkowski, Vollmer, Vereen), not counting the IRed Mr. Ridley.

What was that again about the Pats starving Brady for resources?

The arrogance! Letting facts get in the way of a good narrative.

Packers hit some grand slams with those 2nd round picks.

Fencer said:

https://twitter.com/AronYohannes/status/556235609724174336

The Seahawks have spent VERY little draft currency on their offense. The Packers have spent more; Rodgers is helped by 4 second-round picks and 1 third-rounder. By way of contrast, Brady is helped by 1 first-round pick (Solder) and 3 second-round pics (Gronkowski, Vollmer, Vereen), not counting the IRed Mr. Ridley.

What was that again about the Pats starving Brady for resources?

Click to expand...

So, without looking at anything but what's there, you figure that simple draft pick expenditure is all that matters, AND you figure you should count Patriots OL expenditures, but not the teams you're comparing to?

Bulaga, just as an example, was a 1st round pick for the Packers.



Very sloppy.

amazing, adams 2nd round pick looks terrific. same with moncrief for the colts who was a third round pick

we get dobson who looks like another bust.

Deus Irae said:

So, without looking at anything but what's there, you figure that simple draft pick expenditure is all that matters, AND you figure you should count Patriots OL expenditures, but not the teams you're comparing to?

Bulaga, just as an example, was a 1st round pick for the Packers.

Very sloppy.

Click to expand...

Crumb, you're right -- I didn't check to see that OL was omitted. My bad.

Just because you spend a 1st/2nd/3rd round pick on a player doesn't mean that the player is a valuable resource on the field. Brady is still doing more with less than anybody outside of Russell Wilson. This also doesn't mean we need to surround him with more talent because he can make it work and work quite well when his resources are healthy. To me the only thing this team is missing is a speed rusher opposite of Jones and maybe some more speed on the offensive side of the ball.

Fencer said:

The Seahawks have spent VERY little draft currency on their offense. The Packers have spent more; Rodgers is helped by 4 second-round picks and 1 third-rounder. By way of contrast, Brady is helped by 1 first-round pick (Solder) and 3 second-round pics (Gronkowski, Vollmer, Vereen), not counting the IRed Mr. Ridley.

What was that again about the Pats starving Brady for resources?

Click to expand...

You include Vollmer and Solder but neglect Buluga (1st), Okang (1st), Carpenter (1st), Britt (2nd) and Lynch might have been acquired for a 5th but he was drafted in the first. Good for them for robbing the Bills. Those teams are harldly starved for highly drafted talent.

Also the narrative was mostly about Brady's weapons vs Manning's. Manning and Dalton probably have the best overall talent around them when you consider the skill positions and the lines. Romo's talent is up there too but he didn't massively underachieve, this year, so I'll put him separate from the other two.

TriplecHamp said:

Just because you spend a 1st/2nd/3rd round pick on a player doesn't mean that the player is a valuable resource.

Click to expand...

Kinda what I was gonna say, spending the resources and getting good return for them are two different beasts.

We've certainly spent resources, no doubt, but a number of higher picks haven't panned out, which seems to be magnified around here as if nothing we draft works, which just isn't true either.

strngplyr said:

Kinda what I was gonna say, spending the resources and getting good return for them are two different beasts.

We've certainly spent resources, no doubt, but a number of higher picks haven't panned out, which seems to be magnified around here as if nothing we draft works, which just isn't true either.

Click to expand...

We haven't had success in drafting 1/22 positions, I'd certainly take those numbers any day of the week.

cuz Aaron Dobson

Seattle has a first round pick (Carpenter), second round pick (Britt), second round pick (Unger), first round pick (Okung) and 7th starting on their OL this year.

The OP made a research mistake to which he's owned up. I think we can put this thread to rest at this point.