kneel down sequence?

voluntarysaftey · Jan 10, 2015

Did McDaniels or Belichick just screw up and not know there'd 14 seconds left?

It seemed like Brady was taking a bit of time, but not as much time as he did earlier in the season when there was about a 8 second difference between running down the clock and the time.

So if the Patriots did know, then why not do something like 5 wide and then have a delayed kneel down so you have to get the defense to acknowledge there might be a play?

Uncle Rico · Jan 10, 2015

someone messed up. i thought Brady looked a bit confused coming off the field for the punt

Fencer · Jan 10, 2015

voluntarysaftey said:
Did McDaniels or Belichick just screw up and not know there'd 14 seconds left?

It seemed like Brady was taking a bit of time, but not as much time as he did earlier in the season when there was about a 8 second difference between running down the clock and the time.

So if the Patriots did know, then why not do something like 5 wide and then have a delayed kneel down so you have to get the defense to acknowledge there might be a play?

Seemed weird to me. I guess they decided it wasn't worth running actual plays and trying for a first down. And they probably also decided there were too many seconds to make up, and too little distance behind them to the goal line, to run around and knock some extra seconds off the clock that way.

smg93 · Jan 10, 2015

Brady was snapping the ball with like 2 seconds left and normally I'd like them to run more non victory formation plays but with all those fumbles and fortunately recoveries, I can understand why they went really conservative in the end

Joey007 · Jan 10, 2015

I am really glad that did not cost us. It would've been the biggest blundering of clock management in history.

We're they not taught to respect the clock?

hambone1818 · Jan 10, 2015

Good questions. I never do the math right so never bother myself, but you figure someone on the sideline is responsible for knowing what kind of time would be left.

I honestly don't understand why/how they'd allow that kind of time to remain. Collinsworth was right, run a sweep or two, even losing five yards what does it matter if you run the clock out? Kinda mind boggling, to be honest.

BadMoFo · Jan 10, 2015

That's what I think. Why else would they give them that chance to even block a punt.

Patstopia · Jan 10, 2015

I thought they were going to have Allen run around in the end zone and take a safety. Then get the free kick with 5 or so seconds left, pinning them too deep for a Hail Mary.

DarrylS · Jan 10, 2015

I agree with what happened, in the past with terrible defenses may have done something different, but they did not have much choice... they did not want to risk a penalty and push the ball back closer tot he goal times..

The sequence of plays.. when they took over the ball there was a time out due to change of possession.

New England Patriots at 01:39
1-10-NE 20(1:39) 12-T.Brady kneels to NE 18 for -2 yards.
2-12-NE 18( .57) 12-T.Brady kneels to NE 16 for -2 yards.
3-14-NE 16( .15) 12-T.Brady kneels to NE 15 for -1 yards.

RelocatedPatFan · Jan 10, 2015

1:34 when they got the ball on the 20.

Brady was good about letting the clock wind down

40 second countdown

Yet, they still had 14 seconds? The 3 kneeldowns should have cost 1-2 extra seconds per play.

Edit: if Darrly's 1:39 is correct then 14 seconds would be about right.

RobertWeathers · Jan 10, 2015

Joey007 said:
We're they not taught to respect the clock?

No kidding. Dikembe almost lost his bucket of KFC...

Fencer · Jan 10, 2015

Patstopia said:
I thought they were going to have Allen run around in the end zone and take a safety. Then get the free kick with 5 or so seconds left, pinning them too deep for a Hail Mary.

No, because a FG would then have won it for the Ravens.

Fencer · Jan 10, 2015

A reverse could have run even more time off the clock than a toss sweep. Even better a double reverse, if they don't mind putting a kind of trick play on tape.

cclocke · Jan 10, 2015

I was thinking that NBC incorrectly had one time out left for Baltimore. I'm guessing that Belichick thought the Ravens were out of timeouts. Big mistake.

supafly · Jan 10, 2015

Fencer said:
No, because a FG would then have won it for the Ravens.

I think he's saying if there had been less time on the clock, and in that case I would agree.

Had there been less than 10 secs, I would have expected the punter to kill about 6-7 secs by running around prior to stepping out of the back of the EZ for a safety.

supafly · Jan 10, 2015

Fencer said:
A reverse could have run even more time off the clock than a toss sweep. Even better a double reverse, if they don't mind putting a kind of trick play on tape.

Who in their right mind is going to try something like that when you're trying to run the clock down in a safe and effective manner?

A freaking reverse? TOSS sweep?

Why not just bust out the old Fumble-rooski?

BTTA · Jan 10, 2015

I have a hard time seeing it as anything but a mistake. Three running plays would have run off enough time to have denied the hail Mary. We may still have had to punt but it would have been the last play of the game.

Brit patriot · Jan 10, 2015

Joey007 said:
I am really glad that did not cost us. It would've been the biggest blundering of clock management in history.

We're they not taught to respect the clock?

As Dikembie would say, 'RESPECT THE CLOCK!'

BTTA · Jan 10, 2015

I have a hard time seeing it as anything but a mistake. Three running plays would have run off enough time to have denied the hail Mary. We may still have had to punt but it would have been the last play of the game.

supafly · Jan 10, 2015

cclocke said:
I was thinking that NBC incorrectly had one time out left for Baltimore. I'm guessing that Belichick thought the Ravens were out of timeouts. Big mistake.

I still don't understand why anyone's assuming that Belichick did anything wrong?

He obviously did the thing that would lead to the highest percentage of success, which was to give them the ball back with around 5-10 secs.

What would you have liked him to do? Try to pick up a first down? LOL

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