Woody Johnson Clear Cut Tampered Re: Revis

PatsWickedPissah · Dec 30, 2014

<crickets> Remember, Goodell started in football working for his Jets

The Gr8est · Dec 30, 2014

OhExaulted1 said:
So, if there's been a precedence previously set, (Lions/Chiefs 2011), then I don't see any real difference except the Patriots have yet to file a grievence. If they do the penalty should be even more significant. Why? Here's why:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/2/18/2001402/lions-tampering-chiefs-draft-picks

According to this story, Gunther Cunningham, former Chief and the Lions DC made these remarks:

"(Kansas City) keeps wanting to dump their players. I would like to be there to catch a lot of them because I know a couple of those guys."

Even with the Lions counter-charge involving former Chief Jarred Page and his agent, the Lions still got docked a 7th and had to swap 5ths for these remarks. (PS-Page never played for the Lions post-incident anyway).

Now this case involves an OWNER. A man who had previously been the one who wrote his former employee his paychecks and would be the one who has the ultimate decision to make his former employee who is employed by another team a financial offer.

Gunther Cunningham had no authority to make any formal offers to any players his former employer may have been considering parting ways with. Is this not significantly a higher form of tampering as it was perpetrated at the highest level of an orginization?

Something to chew on there for anyone who thinks this should be swept under the rug. If consistency is what the league office strives for, this is a blatent reversal of thier former rulings. Just voicing interest in unnamed former players was considered enough of an impropriety to dock draft picks. Fine? What fine?

Now we have an OWNER naming a SPECIFIC player he would be interested in. Precedence? Consistency?

We shall see.

Well to be fair, sweeping it under the rug WOULD be consistent with how Goodell has handled previous Rat trangressions.

Or maybe the Rats can go to their tried and true defense "the Pats do it too"!

Ivan · Dec 30, 2014

Joker said:
Link to this second warning in 2007 please...

They were sent a memo in late August right before the season started reminding teams they could no longer put their cameras in certain areas of stadiums. Belichick blew off the memo and Mangini let the jets know the Patriots were not following the new protocol.

ewg_gestalt · Dec 30, 2014

shmessy said:
The Jets received no compensation from the Patriots for Cameragate.

Except, in the recent cases of tampering, teams have been forced to swap picks. So the Jets can have the Pats' first-round pick, and we can call it a day.

ctpatsfan77 · Dec 30, 2014

ewg_gestalt said:
Except, in the recent cases of tampering, teams have been forced to swap picks. So the Jets can have the Pats' first-round pick, and we can call it a day.

Even if it were as little as a third or a fourth rounder, the resulting JESTenfreude would be so, so delicious.

goheels22002 · Dec 30, 2014

Ivan said:
They were sent a memo in late August right before the season started reminding teams they could no longer put their cameras in certain areas of stadiums. Belichick blew off the memo and Mangini let the jets know the Patriots were not following the new protocol.

The good news is that we've got Woody tampering with Darrelle Revis on videotape.

hwc · Dec 30, 2014

Silver Blue&Red said:
Revis said he tried to go to the jest first.

When did Revis say that?

Armen Da Pats Fan · Dec 30, 2014

Like Goodell will do anything to his beloved Jets...

flasox27 · Dec 30, 2014

It is obvious to everyone but Jets fans and their apologists on this site, that the idiot Johnson created a textbook case of tampering. In the past the POS goodell has not accepted ignorance or misunderstanding as an excuse for a rules violation as in the case of BB and cameragate. We shall see whether his slavish allegiance to his beloved Jets counts more than retaining what miniscule integrity and credibility he has left after the Rice debacle. Similarily, we shall see if "Ol' Get Along" Bob finds the courage to support his GM and coach and demand equal treatment for all. Otherwise, they can just throw out the rule book regarding the Jets. If he doesn't have the guts to stand up for his team, then he should turn over the team to his son and become a goodwill ambassador and full time toady for goodell.

OhExaulted1 · Dec 30, 2014

ctpatsfan77 said:
Even if it were as little as a third or a fourth rounder, the resulting JESTenfreude would be so, so delicious.

Swapping 3rds would mean we would get #70 and they would get #96 (I know, I'm an optimist

).

GangGreen would implode and be consumed by it's own hatred like JI did earlier this year.

That indeed would be delicious.

Galeb · Dec 30, 2014

Peachhead said:
While I do agree that Kraft is a consensus builder and less confrontational than many owners, remember Cameragate. Mr. Kraft was *personally* fined several 100s of thousands of dollars (I think it was half a mil but I could be wrong) because the Jets pushed a real ticky-tack violation over the Pats filming from the *wrong part of the field*. It doesn't get much more disproportional than that.

I think Kraft wants blood as much as BB does. He's just going to be a bit more more low key about it.

I hope you're right.

sb1 · Dec 30, 2014

I'm getting a chuckle from reading the morons in the PFT comments who think this wasn't tampering at all and outraged that the Pats are pursuing this because spygate.

flasox27 · Dec 30, 2014

sb1 said:
I'm getting a chuckle from reading the morons in the PFT comments who think this wasn't tampering at all and outraged that the Pats are pursuing this because spygate.

Absolutely correct, I am especially amused by the" holier than thou" donk fans who conveniently ignore that they were punished twice by a real commissioner for violating the salary cap rules when they won their superbowls.

sb1 · Dec 30, 2014

flasox27 said:
Absolutely correct, I am especially amused by the" holier than thou" donk fans who conveniently ignore that they were punished twice by a real commissioner for violating the salary cap rules when they won their superbowls.

And as pointed out on there...the only team in the history of the NFL to be punished for taping another team's practices.

RobertWeathers · Dec 30, 2014

flasox27 said:
Absolutely correct, I am especially amused by the" holier than thou" donk fans who conveniently ignore that they were punished twice by a real commissioner for violating the salary cap rules when they won their superbowls.

Yep. Shanny learned from Mr. Salary Cap Circumventer himself- Carmen Policy. CEO of the 49ers.

sb1 · Dec 30, 2014

robertweathers said:
Yep. Shanny learned from Mr. Salary Cap Circumventer himself- Carmen Policy. CEO of the 49ers.

Yup...and the Steelers were caught cheating it as well if I remember correctly. Cost them a 3rd round pick I think.

1960Pats · Dec 30, 2014

shmessy said:
Dutchmaster617 gave this post a "Dislike".

Evidently he feels the incompetent should be allowed to break rules.

It takes all kinds.......

I didn't like your post either, but not enough to hit the dislike. Here it is;

Your "reasoning" is pathetic.

Just because they aren't good at what they do does not mean they are allowed to break the rules.

Most competent human beings learn that basic lesson before 4th grade.

I never like seeing anyone being insulted here.

Clonamery · Dec 30, 2014

1960Pats said:
I didn't like your post either, but not enough to hit the dislike. Here it is;

Your "reasoning" is pathetic.

Just because they aren't good at what they do does not mean they are allowed to break the rules.

Most competent human beings learn that basic lesson before 4th grade.

I never like seeing anyone being insulted here.

The truth hurts.

1960Pats · Dec 30, 2014

Ivan said:
That said because the jets pushed that issue to the greatest extent possible, as well as compensation for Belichick, the Patriots should be as unreasonable as possible and be total pricks about this. I'll start. We want the #6 overall.

That actually sounds reasonable. Revis is worth a top 5 pick and we'll settle for #6.

Ross12 · Dec 30, 2014

I wonder how long this will take... It honestly makes me laugh but also pisses me off at the same time.

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