Dennard to IR, Boyce to 53

hwc · Dec 28, 2014

Maybe Dennard never was worth a damn. I mean, the 2013 Pats defense did have big problem getting off the field on obvious 3rd and long passing downs. Clearly, Belichick saw a need to upgrade the CB position (Browner signing).

Decent zone corner, no good at man coverage?

Fencer · Dec 28, 2014

supafly said:
Technically, he has one more year here under contract for 2015 first. Some believe that he may not even see that as a Patriot.

The base case is that he stays next season. If they only have 5 CBs they want to keep ahead of him, I think they go with 6 next year, and while it's possible, the odds are they won't have 6 ahead of him.

Kdo5 · Dec 28, 2014

Uncle Rico said:
So Boyce starts, plays brilliantly, then what?

Hahahaha

hwc said:
Maybe Dennard never was worth a damn. I mean, the 2013 Pats defense did have big problem getting off the field on obvious 3rd and long passing downs. Clearly, Belichick saw a need to upgrade the CB position (Browner signing).

Decent zone corner, no good at man coverage?

I thought Dennard was a sufficient number two through 2012-2013 but he was struggling when he was on the field this year.

Brady6 · Dec 28, 2014

TheBostonStraggler said:
When you say earn do you mean Boyce actiaved for a meaningless last game of the season, where any other WR with an injury will not play, and warm bodies will be needed to catch passes mostly from JAG?
If that's what you mean by earned then I agree.

I'd love to see Boyce step up and become productive, just really catch fans/coaches/BB's eye with some solid play. However, this 'promotion' is not likely an indication of that wishful impending breakout. The promotion is an indication that warm bodies are needed to fill in for guys who actually will be catching passes in the post season. Just is what it is......

Sure, if we want to be all negative and depressing than sure that's what I mean.

Brady6 · Dec 28, 2014

hwc said:
True. It still had to be a stressful offseason mentally. I'm as puzzled as everyone else. I thought Dennard had established himself as at least a decent JAG-level starting CB in the NFL. Heck, he was the starter on opening day. He's really fallen off a cliff.

I think it was the lack of pending charges and offseason jail time that threw him off his game. This is the first season in his NFL career that he wasn't out on bail during, there is an adjustment obviously.

The Brandon Five · Dec 28, 2014

mgteich said:
I'm surprised that Dennard wasn't sent to IR a bit earlier. I'm also surprised that Swanson was cut from the Practice Squad when Dennard having issues. Of course, Swanson is now back.

Yeah, a little odd to allocate two roster spots for almost the entire season to guys who didn't really play: Dennard and Dobson.

patsfaninpa · Dec 28, 2014

Boyce is very good with the ball in his hands. I'd like to see a screen package put in for him on short throws that don't require a complex route running/options. Try to get him the ball outside. He's fast and elusive. Pretty strong too. Might be able to back up Edelman as someone previously mentioned.

RobertWeathers · Dec 28, 2014

DaBruinz said:
Or it says that he turned down people attempting to sign him to stay with the Pats..

Maybe. Red this morning that there was another team poking around.

condon84 · Dec 28, 2014

Par for the course for CBs we draft and develop.

RobertWeathers · Dec 28, 2014

supafly said:
Still hate that trade to this day, in case you cared.

I always care, Supafly.

supafly said:
EHIII had his limitations, but he also had a role. To take it one step further, he produced on KORs as well.

I agree. I think with EHIII, it came down to his contract coming up and BB wanting to go bigger at CB (see Bodden and Springs) and him thinking he was not better than Wheatley, Willhite, Butler in the slot.

Oswlek · Dec 28, 2014

TheBostonStraggler said:
but the timing and situation makes it almost certain this is a short lived promotion

We'll see. The team has been carrying one less WR since putting Dobson on IR and no one is thrilled about the WRs after the top two. If I had to guess, I'd say he's on the roster through the playoffs.

fgssand · Dec 28, 2014

JackBauer said:
Hopefully Boyce can offer more than Tyms has of late.

Tyms has been contributing on special teams and has been cited recently for a couple of key blocks on running plays. He also has been the recipient of the "black jersey" a few times for his work as one of the practice players of the week.

OhExaulted1 · Dec 28, 2014

Oswlek said:
We'll see. The team has been carrying one less WR since putting Dobson on IR and no one is thrilled about the WRs after the top two. If I had to guess, I'd say he's on the roster through the playoffs.

Actually, after the "top 2" we're "carrying" a Pro-Bowler. Our "#4" is really a PR/KR guy, who, if he was on a rookie contract, everyone would be in love with. Tyms is a "project" who's likely gone in the offseason.

There's only 1 football, and we have 5 guys who can get it done. (Julien, Jo-Jo, Rob, Tim and Shane). I hope we retain Vereen but that seems like a 50/50 proposition.

OhExaulted1 · Dec 28, 2014

fgssand said:
Tyms has been contributing on special teams and has been cited recently for a couple of key blocks on running plays. He also has been the recipient of the "black jersey" a few times for his work as one of the practice players of the week.

Wish I'd seen that before I posted. St guys carry big weight with Bill. Like to hear that (black jersey) stuff.

JackBauer · Dec 28, 2014

fgssand said:
Tyms has been contributing on special teams and has been cited recently for a couple of key blocks on running plays. He also has been the recipient of the "black jersey" a few times for his work as one of the practice players of the week.

Indeed. And he hasn't had a reception since the first Buffalo game in October.

kennyb · Dec 28, 2014

Why would it be a short lived promotion? It's not like they need the roster spot. Who would they replace boyce with on the roster do you suppose?

PatsWickedPissah · Dec 28, 2014

JackBauer said:
Indeed. And he hasn't had a reception since the first Buffalo game in October.

Dropping an easy catch in the opening series against Denver was his downfall.

reneluar · Dec 28, 2014

And how many targets had Tyms since the Buffalo game? i just remember 1, the other were in bombs, low % plays.

RobertWeathers · Dec 28, 2014

PatsWickedPissah said:
Dropping an easy catch in the opening series against Denver was his downfall.

...and the drop on the 15 yd slant vs Indy didn't help either.

RobertWeathers · Dec 28, 2014

reneluar said:
And how many targets had Tyms since the Buffalo game? i just remember 1, the other were in bombs, low % plays.

3 according to Profootballreference.com

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