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Whoever #22 is on the Jets played a great game. The passes to Gronk were predictable but he competed against them better than anyone else this season.

The one thing I hate about our offense is when we put all of these extra linemen on the field our run blocking seems to get worse.

Before the game I was curious to see what a Edelman-less offense looked like and never again do I want to know lol. This is the kind of game that shakes my faith. Since 2010 I have blamed our offense far more than our defense for the reason we haven't gone all the way and games like yesterday is why. I'm just glad it happened now so that we can hopefully fix it.
 
Hold it - you mean you're saying that there are STILL Jets fans? Boggles the mind, really.
 
Great post. Dan Connolly's absence was immense. The OL reverted to the Raiders game without him, proving once again how critical it is to have a unit that knows and trusts one another.

The 1st half stat that blew me away was: on 19 drop backs by Brady he was sacked, knocked down or hurried on 18 of them. 18 out of 19!

I hope the good Bengals show up tonite and knock off the Broncos so Brady can sit out the Bills game.
Which you know he won't do--unless he hurt himself on that butt-ugly slide.
 
I look forward to reading your idle thoughts each week. Thanks.

1 & 2 - Amendola is a poor man's Edelman. I think we were all happy to see him contribute.
3 & 4 - Is there still a Mankins thread around here? :)
5 - The running game is almost always an afterthought.
7 - From the first TD they gave up in the season to now, Pat Chung has been our D's weakest link.
8 - My theory on the confusion with the spot was that it was created by the ref and the Jets on the sideline. They were all hopping up and down and couldn't see the ref's late 1st down signal from the other side of the Pats huddle. It looked like the Jets then kept the chains from being moved and Mr Bluster threw the flag. I kind of enjoyed it, especially after the ridiculous spot the Pats had on the play.
9 - In the hypothetical 4th down play, I'd do the opposite. I'd rather take a chance on a short field with Ge-NO! than a top QB.
10 - It looked too crowded for Gray to be down without being touched, but the ball still might have broken the plane.
13 - Glad to see a mention of Fisher. He's a dirtbag.
14 - O'Brien and Chip Kelley look to be pretty good HCs.
15 - And the Pats still won. We're so lucky. :D
 
I look forward to reading your idle thoughts each week. Thanks.

7 - From the first TD they gave up in the season to now, Pat Chung has been our D's weakest link.

I disagree. I would say whoever backs up Arrington (Logan Ryan/Malcolm Butler) have been the far weaker links and unfortunately they have been getting a lot of playing time. Relative to the number of snaps they play, Ryan and Butler have had way more gaffes than Chung has.
 
I'm laughing about people being upset with the defense. Please leave them out of the whining sessions. They gave up 16 points and some people are feeling like this is a loss. The defense continued its trend of being stingy in the 2nd half only giving up 6 points.

I predicted a big win and it didn't happen. I didn't realize the continuity of the oline would be broken with Connolly being absent. Take the win, Tip the hat and move onto Buffalo.

I'm not upset with the defense. I just didn't like the defensive game plan during the first half of the game. And there is a big difference between the two.
 
8 - My theory on the confusion with the spot was that it was created by the ref and the Jets on the sideline. They were all hopping up and down and couldn't see the ref's late 1st down signal from the other side of the Pats huddle. It looked like the Jets then kept the chains from being moved and Mr Bluster threw the flag. I kind of enjoyed it, especially after the ridiculous spot the Pats had on the play.

No, the confusion is all on the ref. Everytime I've seen a measurement and the measurement shows a first down, the ref immediately signals the first down right at where the measurement was made (i.e. he looks at the ball, straightens up, and signals the first down right then and there).

For some reason this guy didn't do that. He looked at ball and signalled nothing. If you look at the replay you can see him flashing an index finger (i.e. a "one") a couple of times as he jogs to his position, but he only gives the standard, full-arm first down signal once he gets to his position.
 
I didn't watch the game yesterday since I was at a birthday with no TV, but it sounds like a good one to miss. I watched the 12 minute replay on demand, but it wasn't very useful. They generally favor successful offensive plays and this was a game where I was more interested in seeing the ones the didn't work.

No analysis, but I do have some thoughts and questions, some rhetorical.

* I see a lot of "Dan Connolly sits and the line goes to ****!" talk, but I get the feeling the answer is far more complex than that. The Jets put a lot of pressure on blocking assignments and make a lot of OLs look bad, even more so when Rex has been scheming for this matchup for weeks, perhaps even months. All the shuffling on the line can't have helped much either.

I'll wager that if Dan goes down in the playoffs, the pass pro will look a lot better. Frankly, it already did, against these same Jets and the Bills, when NE was also missing Stork.

* I'm sure some idiot is going to say something about how "you beat the Patriots by punching them in the mouth" and there is some truth to that. But the fact of the matter is that physicality alone isn't what does it. It's a prerequisite or else they'll just push you around, but it's not the source.

No, what throws the Patriots off balance is when they can't outsmart the other team. That's why Baltimore gave them fits, because all the plays that normally free up Gronk for a 30- yard seamer had Reed and Lewis in the area. And it's why the Rex - who is a fantastic defensive mind - gives the Pats so much trouble. Not only are his players harder to fake out, he intentionally keeps things in reserve just to spring on the Patriots. He's pretty much a laughing stock, but I'm glad to see him leave the division.

FWIW, NY's offense is much the same. As terrible as Rex is in that area, he's figured out that if you come at NE with the same thing you always do, you'd better be damned good at it or else it won't work. He must have entire offensive playbooks for going against the Patriots to ensure that he'll have as many unpracticed plays as possible. Frankly, I commend him on this because it is by far the best possible approach he can take.

* I'm surprised NE went so passive with the contained rush again. Geno doesn't strike me as the type of mobile quarterback who is able to think that fast on his feet. Sure, some of the slow rush was due to playing so many heavies at once, but once Mangold went down I would have assumed a-gap blitzes would have been a big part of the game plan.

* Back to the OL, I can't help but wonder if NE thought they could get away with a preseason type approach of trying out as many combinations as possible. Other than the uncomfortable injury risk to Brady, it is a sound idea. Gives your guys reps in odd circumstances against a terrific front to prepare for possible injuries in the playoffs.

I say this because just going through the notes afterward, it seemed like the mixing and matching started happening before it was really time to panic. Obviously a good portion of it is simply trying to stop NY's rush.

* I don't think it is fair to include Blount in the Missing-in-Action list. Yes, he's technically the "starter" and yes, Gray apparently looked terrible, but all evidence indicates that LaGarrette wouldn't have found any holes Jonas couldn't.

* Aside from the third quarter against Miami, that is now four straight games where the offense struggled to move the ball. Coming off the Detroit game, if you told me NE you didn't think NE would average more than 20 points against GB, SD and NY, I would have offered up a tongue lashing you wouldn't believe. And I would have been wrong.

Troubling sign? Working through some things? In need of a restful week off to do some self-scouting?
 
Good points but sadly, Amendoler is a RICH man's Edelman at his salary cap #.

I've never cared about player salaries, but I definitely see your point on the cap hit for a backup slot receiver.
 
I really hope this O-line fixes it's issues soon.

It always seems like there's always something that holds us back from going all the way every year. I would hate it if the O-line holds us back this year. We have a very special looking team this year.
 
Any notice if it was game plan that slowed him down today (2 runs for 1 yard, 4 rec for 44,) was he injured, or am I just over-rating the guy?

Harvin became injured sometime around the half way mark, IIRC. Obviously it wasn't exactly at the halfway point, but I want to say that it was in that middle range/third (20 min) of the game. He did not come back to my knowledge.
 
The 1st half stat that blew me away was: on 19 drop backs by Brady he was sacked, knocked down or hurried on 18 of them. 18 out of 19!
This can't be true.

I was told by an idiot from Arizona that Bryan Stork resolved all the New England Patriots offensive line issues.
 
This can't be true.

I was told by an idiot from Arizona that Bryan Stork resolved all the New England Patriots offensive line issues.
He hasn't resolved anything, but he is the first piece of the puzzle.
 
I think some are severely overreacting to the first half OL struggles yesterday.

Coming into the game, they had given up 16 sacks... Sarcastic comments about how the rookies have played so poorly, etc? Really? Bryan Stork has indeed been a very good selection up to this point. I remember some very decent rookie OL such as Matt Light and Logan Mankins having some first year issues to work through here and there, don't you?

Believe it or not, the other squad shows up to play too, and they have some very good talent on that side of the ball. Once the issues were worked out, the Pats did not give up another sack.

We're still going to be somewhere around 50% of the 2013 sack total, and anything under 20-25 is pretty damn good based on most people's opinions. We'll have a decent chance at being at 20, or somewhere in the low 20s after the end of the regular season. I think 100 percent of us would have signed up for that kind of performance.
 
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This can't be true.

I was told by an idiot from Arizona that Bryan Stork resolved all the New England Patriots offensive line issues.

Tommy Kelly analyzes our offensive line these days?
 
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