A Little Appreciation for Danny Amendola Today

Starting on offense and making 8 catches while returning every kick and punt is a pretty serious day's work.

Brady6 said:

Wright is not going to make a noticeable impact on this team until 2015. He came in the last week of camp and just isn't a big part of the offense right now.

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Players like Blount and Ayers came in and made immediate impacts. I am skeptical that Wright simply needs more time, but I hope you are right.

Mack Herron said:

Players like Blount and Ayers came in and made immediate impacts. I am skeptical that Wright simply needs more time, but I hope you are right.

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I don't even know if it is just Wright I think it maybe the offensive playbook might need an offseason too.

Archeryaddict12 said:

His production is because of Jules

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...his production is because of Danny Amendola...good game today DA...

Mack Herron said:

Players like Blount and Ayers came in and made immediate impacts. I am skeptical that Wright simply needs more time, but I hope you are right.

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Not really an apples to apples thing. Also, Blount already knows the offense.

Brady6 said:

The thing that makes Edelman so good is his consistency. Stepping up for a game or two per season is terrific and I'll take it but the key to being a top 25 player at your position is consistency. Edelman has that and Amendola does not.

Also the yards per catch, the overall effectiveness of the offense with Amendola instead of Edelman was noticeable. Gronkowski was not able to get open because the Jets were not concerned with Amendola doing anything beyond 5-6 yards.

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I don't think anyone is arguing that DA deserves more reps over Jules. All we're saying is a guy who gets crucified by many Pats fans played a heck of a game and stepped up and did a pretty nice job filling some huge shoes.

If Demaryius Thomas went out and Andre Caldwell stepped up to have a good game in his place, Broncos fans would be thankful. That's all we're saying. A guy who doesn't get much PT made the most of his opportunities, had a huge punt return to set up our only TD in the first half and keep us in a game we struggled to win.

For one ****ing day, can people not rip on the poor guy? You guys can start again on Monday. Just give him this one single day.

He was solid, but this game showed us that we need mini-tron, DA is a nice backup but can't replace him

Brady6 said:

The thing that makes Edelman so good is his consistency. Stepping up for a game or two per season is terrific and I'll take it but the key to being a top 25 player at your position is consistency. Edelman has that and Amendola does not.

Also the yards per catch, the overall effectiveness of the offense with Amendola instead of Edelman was noticeable. Gronkowski was not able to get open because the Jets were not concerned with Amendola doing anything beyond 5-6 yards.

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I don't see anything in the stats that backs you up.

It's a small sample, you could just as easily say the increase in punt returns was noticeable. We don't know if Amendola would be consistent or not because he's been behind Edelman in depth. Consistency was the same criticism against Edelman when he sat behind Welker on the depth chart. Given a shot, Edelman proved he could be consistent, and now given a shot Amendola has given us reason to believe the same, and really no reason to believe he couldn't be consistent.

What's the inconsistent argument based on? The theoretical games you've invented where he didn't produce in relief of Edelman?

I just got back from church, so I haven't had a chance yet to see the Pats vs Jets game. Thankfully I have the game Tivoed so I get around to watching the game sometime this week.

Glad to hear Danny Amendola had another fairly good game. I always liked him and thought some were overbearingly hard on him. Overall, I never understood the obsessive hate that some NFL players such as Amendola have received . I wish Amendola well and I am happy he's on the team.


I love the thread Joey. You're an awesome contributor here and I am glad to call you one of my friends here Joey007.

kudzif said:

a slot guy who averages less than 8 yards a catch. He was fine but nothing worth going crazy over.

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I don't think anyone's going crazy over him. Just appreciate that he filled a role today for an injured player well enough to help secure an important victory. If he hadn't been available today, I think it's likely the Pats would have lost. I know it's a critical necessity for some on this board (not necessarily you) to always have a whipping boy and DA has filled that role and made those people feel all warm and cuddly most weeks. Well, today he stepped up and more than did his job and kudos to him for coming through as he did.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

I appreciate more now that he never plays.

Did anyone watch the actual game? Box score be damned, he is terrible. The Patriots run their whole offense around the slot receiver position; he SHOULD be open for some big gains. He gets zero separation, can't break tackles, can't accelerate, and always seems to come up just shy of the first down marker. He also stinks on kickoffs.

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I think you and I watched different games today- he provided a lot in terms of production and an overall contribution in place of Edelman- I'm damn glad he was out there today in his place.

Brady6 said:

Edelman was missed today we scored 17 points and had a trouble on third down. No doubt he is limits Amendola's opportunities but the difference between them as players is noticeable. We will need Edelman out there if we want to win the SB.

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Connolly was missed much more. The makeshift OL was the main reason for the troubles on third down ( and other downs). They looked as bad as in the start of the season for large portions of the game.

Amendola had a huge game. On the first TD, he had a big return which allowed the team to start the drive on the jets part of the field. Then the 8 catches which contributed heavily for the win. Without him the Pats probably lose the game and the homefield advantage throughout the AFC playoffs.

He also made an amazing catch in the other Jets game at a critical moment. Amendola the Jets killer.

It was great to see him redeem himself after he received so much hate throughout the season.

The slot position is extremely important in the Pats offense. It's great to have a guy like Amendola step up and contribute when Minitron went down.

Brady6 said:

Gronkowski was not able to get open because the Jets were not concerned with Amendola doing anything beyond 5-6 yards.

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That had nothing to do with Edelman's absence and everything to do with the fact that if routes were longer than 5-6 yards downfield, Brady was going to get sacked.

Brady6 said:

I don't even know if it is just Wright I think it maybe the offensive playbook might need an offseason too.

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I think they should shift him back to wide receiver which was his original position, and draft or sign a tight end with blocking and some catching habilities. Put him the whole off season to work with Lafell, learn a little block from a receiver stand point, because he's no TE.

We should stop trying to emulate Aaron Hernandez (if they are in fact trying to do this) because he was unique, a nightmare mismatch for defenses, tall, strong, fast, a killer tight end.

I think BB is not a big fan of this move tight end, it happened with hernandez but it's a very difficult role to replace.

It's good to Amendola as depth--really good, as today showed. His contract is another matter. Beating a dead horse here, but for a borderline JAG, that contract is a disaster.

Pats could have used that money a lot more wisely. They fell in love with what Welker brought to the table in his prime and thought DA could pretty much do the same (or better). And they've been dead wrong so far.

Our offensive skill player depth is now a serious issue. Get well soon Jules and Blount.

Brady6 said:

Wright is not going to make a noticeable impact on this team until 2015. He came in the last week of camp and just isn't a big part of the offense right now.

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I think his role will increase in the playoffs and he will be a major factor to keeping teams off balance

Mack Herron said:

Players like Blount and Ayers came in and made immediate impacts. I am skeptical that Wright simply needs more time, but I hope you are right.

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Not same situations.

Blount was here last year. Ayers is playing defense and doesn't have to be on the same page as Tom Brady.

varjao said:

We should stop trying to emulate Aaron Hernandez... a killer tight end.

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Gotta be careful with your unintended puns!

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50-yard-line said: ↑
Why would anyone ask you when they can read your 753,000 posts on the subject?

This right here is such a load of crap in my opinion. There are 8 posters who regularly take issue with what I say about Amendola, so if 8 posters quote my posts and I have the human courtesy to respond to them of course I am going to have the most posts on the subject. Essentially if you breakdown by poster interaction you are just as active on the Amendola subject as I am you just do not have as may posters quote your posts.


I disagree with those articles, because Amendola has done jack **** with the targets he has received, so if he only catches 3 of 6 targets for a measly 16 yards, I do not think he deserves more targets, I would rather Brady throw to Thompkins, Dobson, or Vereen who have done more with their opportunities than Amendola or LaFell.



Bottom line, NO ONE IS DISAGREEING WITH YOU regarding Amendola not living up to his contract expectations. You continue to try to make it personal against him, and that's flat-out annoying as all hell. And even when others point out the obvious - if he's open and not targeted, he's still doing his job; if he's in there on running plays and making his blocks, he's still doing what he's being asked to do - you take it personally.

First he is not doing what he is asked to do, he was asked to play like a $5.7M WR and be the primary target, that is the role he had when he started here in 2013, and he performed himself out of the starting lineup and lost Brady’s confidence in him. He did that, not the Patriots, not Brady, and not the OL. The blocking thing is such a falsely, he is hardly ever on the field for running plays and with the exception of a screen pass he has never been out in front leading a block. If he was such a great blocker as posters suggest he would be out there for running plays, because they put LaFell out there for running plays with Edelman.


I do not take Amendola personally, I find the Tebow Esq. behavior of his supporters on this board to be annoying, I do not like excuses, and that goes for any player, it just happens that Amendola is the leading receiver of excuses on this board so he gets my attention. If it was another player receiving endless excuses and buck passing I would have the same reaction.



This hasn't got anything to do with JE or even with DA regarding my concerns, or what each player is making (which is the STUPIDEST Boston-media non-stop argument ever for liking or not liking a player). Players get the best contracts they can manage - of course. And management weighs the cost (and the sunk cost) against replacement value. At this point, I have no doubt that DA will be asked to take a pay cut or be cut after this season, unless something dramatically changes.

I doubt they will even ask him to take a pay cut, they will just cut him and probably Arrington too this offseason, neither have lived up to 50% of their contracts.


Brady threw most of his passes 15+ yards down the field in the second half, almost all of them in fact, in comeback mode, he was targeting outside receivers downfield, Edelman was not shut down as much as the Patriots were not able to run their offense.


Getting open when the defense does not see you as a threat is not surprising, and looking open can be different than actually being open, but most importantly being open and being where Brady expects you to be are 2 very different things.

One cannot even give deserved praise to a Pats player who performed his tasks without it being turned into a referendum on his worth. He's ON THE ROSTER. He's a PATRIOTS PLAYER. As a fan I BACK all trhe players on my team. Why the hell in creation is THIS considered a target for ridicule by someone with over 10,000 posts on the subject in under, at the point of THIS post, nine months??

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I do not take Amendola personally, I find the Tebow Esq. behavior of his supporters on this board to be annoying, I do not like excuses, and that goes for any player, it just happens that Amendola is the leading receiver of excuses on this board so he gets my attention. If it was another player receiving endless excuses and buck passing I would have the same reaction.

Ignoring the idiotic butchery of English..to wit.."Tebow Esq"..it's obvious THIS person DOES take Amendola personally and HATES anyone who dares to disagree with his "lake superior" opinion.

I worked hard for that degree to be called Tebow Esq., thank you very much.