Speculation: Josh McDaniels to replace Jim Harbaugh as 49ers head coach?

Please please please MCD to sf

KontradictioN said:

Agreed. Ultimately, he was right about Cutler and Marshall and he also drafted some of the most potent players currently on Denver's roster.

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Yeah, I think hindsight has vindicated a lot of McDaniels' choices in Denver. Not all, Tebow and Alphonso Smith were terrible picks, but maybe most.

So after leading his team to 3 conference championship game including a SB appearance, you guys think the Niners should get rid of Kaep?

Ivan said:

Ok the other hand I am so frigging sick of watching Patriot assistants leave for other jobs but out goes with the territory.

I would like too see the Patriots give Caserio a deal that gives him a promotion and the money to stay he 're looking term.

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They still can't make him GM, so if a good organization offers him that it'd be hard to pass up.

condon84 said:

So after leading his team to 3 conference championship game including a SB appearance, you guys think the Niners should get rid of Kaep?

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Let's face it. Teams have finally figured out how to defend the option offense and the 49ers defense is no longer dominant. I don't think they should get rid of him, but that is the reason I wouldn't want to coach that team. He needs an elite defense and running game.

condon84 said:

So after leading his team to 3 conference championship game including a SB appearance, you guys think the Niners should get rid of Kaep?

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I'm fairly sure one of those were actually alex smith, so that's 2.

Rob0729 said:

Let's face it. Teams have finally figured out how to defend the option offense and the 49ers defense is no longer dominant. I don't think they should get rid of him, but that is the reason I wouldn't want to coach that team. He needs an elite defense and running game.

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Chip Kelly's Eagles before Foles got hurt was the leading offense in the NFL. Russell Wilson continues to play well without receivers in that option offense. Andy Reid mixes some option offense with Alex Smith. Matter of fact, KC killed our defense with it. The option offense is like any system in the NFL. Some teams are gonna be more successful than others.

Without an elite defense or a running game, name me a QB who has won championships.

condon84 said:

Chip Kelly's Eagles before Foles got hurt was the leading offense in the NFL. Russell Wilson continues to play well without receivers in that option offense. Andy Reid mixes some option offense with Alex Smith. Matter of fact, KC killed our defense with it. The option offense is like any system in the NFL. Some teams are gonna be more successful than others.

Without an elite defense or a running game, name me a QB who has won championships.

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Peyton Manning, Eli Manning (twice), Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and Drew Brees all won championships without elite defenses. Many of them didn't have a decent running game either.

Wait, how was Josh McDaniels "right" about Brandon Marshall? He was a headcase early in his career, as most star WRs are, but Marshall has been one of the best WRs in the NFL for the last several years.

VrabelJr said:

Wait, how was Josh McDaniels "right" about Brandon Marshall? He was a headcase early in his career, as most star WRs are, but Marshall has been one of the best WRs in the NFL for the last several years.

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He was a nightmare in Miami. It took for him to go to his third team before he became worth the roster spot. Let's not rewrite history. He shot his way out of town on two teams. It wasn't until he was diagnosed with a borderline personality disorder and started treatment for it did he stop from being a nightmare. Before that, he was more of a problem than his production warranted.

Rob0729 said:

He was a nightmare in Miami. It took for him to go to his third team before he became worth the roster spot. Let's not rewrite history. He shot his way out of town on two teams. It wasn't until he was diagnosed with a borderline personality disorder and started treatment for it did he stop from being a nightmare. Before that, he was more of a problem than his production warranted.

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I think the QBs throwing him the ball in Miami were more of an issue than his on field or off field presence. Philbin traded him because he didn't want such a strong personality in the locker room during his first year of being the HC.

Again, people are re-writing history on Brandon Marshall.

Rob0729 said:

Peyton Manning, Eli Manning (twice), Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and Drew Brees all won championships without elite defenses. Many of them didn't have a decent running game either.

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That isn't really true. Peyton's defense carried him through the playoffs even though the regular season numbers weren't impressive. Rodgers and Brees defense also played great throughout the playoffs for the most part. Ravens d was really good as well but not in the SB.

VrabelJr said:

I think the QBs throwing him the ball in Miami were more of an issue than his on field or off field presence. Philbin traded him because he didn't want such a strong personality in the locker room during his first year of being the HC.

Again, people are re-writing history on Brandon Marshall.

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Yes, I agree you are rewriting history on Brandon Marshall.

I guess you forgot the fight he got with his wife in Miami where she ended up stabbing him in the abdomen (but hey, who hasn't gotten into a fight with his wife where she stabbed him with a knife?). All his problems forced him to spend $60,000 to go through three months of intense treatment at McLean Hospital in Boston in 2011. If he wasn't a problem, why would he be diagnosed with a borderline personality disorder?

Marshall of course was a bit of a problem child off the field for the Miami Dolphins and questions regarding his ability to get his head on straight were getting louder and louder. Not feeling as if the risk was worth the reward, the Miami Dolphins traded Marshall to the Bears in exchange for two (at the time) undisclosed draft picks. It wasn’t the first time Brandon Marshall was changing zip codes either as not long before that, the Denver Broncos felt the same way and traded the wide receiver to the aforementioned Dolphins.

http://fansided.com/2014/10/16/brandon-marshall-happy-miami-dolphins-traded-chicago-bears/

Marshall had all those aspects in his life. Marshall has been involved in damaging and self-damaging behavior going back to his days at the University of Central Florida, and through his career with the Denver Broncos and Miami Dolphins. In an April 23, 2011 incident, when Marshall was a member of the Miami Dolphins' roster, his wife, Michi Nogami-Marshall, was charged with aggravated battery for stabbing him in the abdomen. Charges were later dropped.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ve-borderline-personality-231007042--nfl.html

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6...l-miami-dolphins-reveals-personality-disorder

Froob said:

That isn't really true. Peyton's defense carried him through the playoffs even though the regular season numbers weren't impressive. Rodgers and Brees defense also played great throughout the playoffs for the most part. Ravens d was really good as well but not in the SB.

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Not one of those defenses were elite. During the playoffs or before. Some of them were very good defense, but not elite.

The Ravens' defense was decent. They won because Flacco played like an elite QB during the playoffs. All you have to do is look at the Denver game to see that it was Flacco and not their defense that was the key in the playoffs.

But that isn't what we are arguing anyway. My point is Kaepernick needs an elite defense to help carry the team. Who cares if the 49ers have an average defense capable of being elite in the playoffs if Kaepernick isn't capable of carrying an average defense into the playoffs?

Rob0729 said:

Peyton Manning, Eli Manning (twice), Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, and Drew Brees all won championships without elite defenses. Many of them didn't have a decent running game either.

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It's like you don't even watch games.

Rob0729 said:

Not one of those defenses were elite. During the playoffs or before. Some of them were very good defense, but not elite.

The Ravens' defense was decent. They won because Flacco played like an elite QB during the playoffs. All you have to do is look at the Denver game to see that it was Flacco and not their defense that was the key in the playoffs.

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I'm just going to echo condon84 here:

It's like you don't even watch games.

Rob0729 said:

Yes, I agree you are rewriting history on Brandon Marshall.

I guess you forgot the fight he got with his wife in Miami where she ended up stabbing him in the abdomen (but hey, who hasn't gotten into a fight with his wife where she stabbed him with a knife?). All his problems forced him to spend $60,000 to go through three months of intense treatment at McLean Hospital in Boston in 2011. If he wasn't a problem, why would he be diagnosed with a borderline personality disorder?

Marshall of course was a bit of a problem child off the field for the Miami Dolphins and questions regarding his ability to get his head on straight were getting louder and louder. Not feeling as if the risk was worth the reward, the Miami Dolphins traded Marshall to the Bears in exchange for two (at the time) undisclosed draft picks. It wasn’t the first time Brandon Marshall was changing zip codes either as not long before that, the Denver Broncos felt the same way and traded the wide receiver to the aforementioned Dolphins.

http://fansided.com/2014/10/16/brandon-marshall-happy-miami-dolphins-traded-chicago-bears/



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ve-borderline-personality-231007042--nfl.html

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6...l-miami-dolphins-reveals-personality-disorder

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His wife stabbing him in the off season makes him a bad teammate?

Does not compute.

condon84 said:

It's like you don't even watch games.

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LOL! Apparently, I don't watch the games you watch. I watch NFL games. What league do you watch?

Let's go through the players:

Peyton Manning - during the season their defense sucked. It got good in the playoffs with the return of Bob Sanders, but not elite. The Pats still scored 34 points against them with no WRs. They faced two bad offenses in the prior two games (plus Herm Edwards brilliantly decided to only run Larry Johnson 13 times even though he was the league leader during the regular season in rushing).

Eli Manning - Both teams had an elite d-line, but mediocre back seven. Good, not elite defenses

Drew Brees - Slightly above average defense with the ability to turn over the ball. Much like the Pats in many years where many here trashed the defense.

Aaron Rodgers - Very good, not elite defense

Joe Flacco - Average defense in the regular season (people forget they lost four games in a row down the stretch). Good defense in the playoffs, but struggled at times in the playoffs.

It seems you guys are confusing elite defenses with teams with average to good defenses that get hot in the playoffs. None of the QBs I listed had elite defenses. Some of them had defenses that played like elite defenses for short stretches, but that doesn't make them elite defenses. That makes them teams that got hot in the playoffs. Big difference.

Kaepernick is not Peyton Manning who can carry a bad team during the regular season into the playoffs and can hope the defense gets hot in the playoffs. He needs an elite defense to just to get into the playoffs.

VrabelJr said:

I'm just going to echo condon84 here:

It's like you don't even watch games.

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No! It is like I understand the meaning of elite defenses.

The Seahawks are an elite defense. Week in and week out they dominante. Regular season and the playoffs.

The 2006 Colts are far from an elite defense. They had a historically bad defense in the regular season. Their defense dominated a few bad offenses in the playoffs (struggled against the one good offense they faced) does not turn a historically bad defense into an elite defense. It is a bad defense that got hot in the playoffs. Big difference than elite defense.

VrabelJr said:

His wife stabbing him in the off season makes him a bad teammate?

Does not compute.

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His wife stabs him and HE is the one who goes into treatment for mental issues. Doesn't that tell you she might have stabbed him in self defense?

Why did the Dolphins who traded two second round picks to get Marshall trade him two years later for a third and a conditional late round pick if he wasn't an issue? Because he was a stud, but he has a big personality? Does not compute.

Again, he was an issue in both Denver and Miami. It was found out that he had a medical condition that caused it and since he received treatment, he has mostly been a model citizen (at least until this year). He shot his way out of town on two teams.