Rex to BB: "You're getting my very best"

Off The Grid · Dec 16, 2014

Off The Grid said:
Pathetic.

patchick said:
Just curious, did you read what Ryan actually said? He heaped praise on Belichick, described him as a first-ballot Hall of Famer who does a tremendous job preparing his team, and talked about embracing the opportunity to go up against such a formidable foe and give it all he's got.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-je...g-kisser-but-he-respect-bill-belichicks-rings

No silly boasts, no pumping up his players or getting a goddamn snack, nothing but respect and and a suitable professional competitiveness. Freaky, really. I hardly recognized him.

Well, then: Perhaps you should've been reading the entire Articles all along.

It wasn't freaky at all.

It was perfectly consistent with the message Ryan's been sending for 5 Years.

01 ~ Rex Ryan has always been Gung Ho, boastful, and bombastic, but has always treated Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, and the Patriots with Respect and even Admiration, which anyone who actually read the Articles themselves and not just the Tweeted HeadLines over the last 5 Years would already know.

02 ~ And this is not the first time I've pointed that out on this Site and in these Forums.

03 ~ I've been an unabashed Rex Ryan Fan since Day 1 ~ his only Fan around these parts, it seems.

04 ~ "Pathetic" ~ my comment ~ was directed towards this Thread. Whoops!!

05 ~ Perhaps you should've ascertained that before lecturing me ~ Ryan's only Patriots Fan ~ on Rex Ryan?

06 ~ Gotcha.

Deus Irae · Dec 16, 2014

Off The Grid said:
Dude.

I'm actually a big Fan of Rex Ryan, and've defended'm here repeatedly...But are you kidding me??

I could actually see Ryan doing OK for a little while in Atlanta, because the offense already has the QB-WR connection. Ryan would demand that they get a workhorse back and an OL or two for his beloved running game, and then he'd focus completely on the offense. Give him someone like Norv Turner as an offensive coordinator, tell Ryan to stick mostly to the defense, and that could work until Ryan's bluster torpedoes things down the road.

Off The Grid · Dec 16, 2014

Deus Irae said:
I could actually see Ryan doing OK for a little while in Atlanta, because the offense already has the QB-WR connection. Ryan would demand that they get a workhorse back and an OL or two for his beloved running game, and then he'd focus completely on the offense. Give him someone like Norv Turner as an offensive coordinator, tell Ryan to stick mostly to the defense, and that could work until Ryan's bluster torpedoes things down the road.

Absolutely. Like I said: He's an awfully talented Coach, vastly underrated by short-attention spanned Fans who read only HeadLines. Give'm a decent Setting, and he could be dangerous, indeed.

The "wrath" business by a squealing Jets fan was kind of funny, though!!

Brady_to_Moss · Dec 16, 2014

Fixit · Dec 16, 2014

Jetsfan25678 said:
Rex Ryan drafts? No, he doesn't. Mike Tannebaum and Idzik have made the picks for the Jets. How can you say Rex ruined Geno? Geno Smith's footwork is to terrible, he can't take snaps under center.

Like I said, it's amazing.

Tunescribe · Dec 16, 2014

Off The Grid said:
Rex Ryan is a damned good DC, and I'll even say that he's got Potential as an Head Coach, however disastrously things are ending in New York.

Remember: Things didn't end that well for Mad Bill the first time around.

He, too, was hamstrung by bad Ownership.

Enjoying Wrecks' personality is fine and all, but he just doesn't have sufficient expertise on the offensive side of the ball (or special teams) to succeed as a head coach. Hiring a top offensive coordinator and focusing mostly on defense -- his strength -- might work for a couple, three years, but not long term. He's demonstrated he isn't even INTERESTED in what's going on with his own offense. Good head coaches need to know both sides of the ball. The ones who don't, fail.

BB had a winning system in place in Cleveland. He was rebuilding that program from scratch and just wasn't given enough time to see it through. His last year probably would've ended much differently without the move looming.

patchick · Dec 16, 2014

Off The Grid said:
04 ~ "Pathetic" ~ my comment ~ was directed towards this Thread. Whoops!!

05 ~ Perhaps you should've ascertained that before lecturing me ~ Ryan's only Patriots Fan ~ on Rex Ryan?

LOL! Nothing personal, I only chose your post to quote because it was so short. I was commenting on the whole thread -- we're on the same side here.

I kind of like Ryan. I think he's in over his head as an NFL head coach, and has the world's worst poker face. But I generally like the guy, and his players seem to as well. I've always wondered if he might not do well in college football, where a personality that can win over recruits and alumni is the name of the game.

TomPatriot · Dec 16, 2014

I would want to win this game badly if I were the Jets' players and coaches. It would make something in their season meaningful. Plus, more than a few of these guys are going to be struggling for an NFL gig next year. I expect a tough game, but I want a blowout.

Haley · Dec 16, 2014

The tough part for Ryan is he has to play the cards he's dealt... And his deck isn't exactly stacked. I think he may have the two of clubs and a four of diamonds with a bent corner in there and maybe a joker with six of spades written on it in magic marker. Sure, he gets to put all his mental prowess behind which card he plays when, but that isn't going to help him much.

obgod3 · Dec 17, 2014

Make no mistake Rex had a hand in selecting the cards in NY, great defensive coach and I don't dislike him but he is awful at assessing offensive talent. In some cases on the defense also. He is clearly as much to blame as the GM.

rochrist · Dec 17, 2014

Tunescribe said:
Enjoying Wrecks' personality is fine and all, but he just doesn't have sufficient expertise on the offensive side of the ball (or special teams) to succeed as a head coach. Hiring a top offensive coordinator and focusing mostly on defense -- his strength -- might work for a couple, three years, but not long term. He's demonstrated he isn't even INTERESTED in what's going on with his own offense. Good head coaches need to know both sides of the ball. The ones who don't, fail.

BB had a winning system in place in Cleveland. He was rebuilding that program from scratch and just wasn't given enough time to see it through. His last year probably would've ended much differently without the move looming.

I think it's not so much his offensive expertise, as he is unable to focus enough on discipline and details. Stuff happens with the Jets, and you're always thinking, would BB /ever/ allow that ****? A lot of it makes him popular with his players, but it also leads to dumpster fires like what happened to Mark Sanchez. Remember Sanchez eating hamburgers on the sideline? You think ever, in a million years, that would happen with a BB run team?

So, TL;DR, pretty much a brilliant defensive coordinator. He ought to stay in that job.

Captain Cliche · Dec 17, 2014

Let me see...let's do a little inventory:

-He's a bloated slob that had to get an operation to thin down
-He has a tattoo of his wife wearing Sanchez's jersey (WTF)
-His team has no disipline and is a disfunctional trainwreck
-His team has no filter and says whatever to the media
-He makes outrageous boasts and doesn't back them up
-He builds up his players egos and then they crash and burn
-There's the whole foot fetish thing (probably irrelevent to his coaching, but creepy none the less and a total embarassment that he can't keep this **** behind closed doors)
-Oh yeah, there's that pesky win/loss thing
-Poor performance in all 3 phases of the game (his GM screwed him?????)

I wouldn't hire this clown to clean my toilets because he would probably screw that up...claiming he's the best toilet cleaner in the universe...all the while cleaning out my refrigerator instead.

Honestly, the dude is classless on a trailer trash level and should never get near a professional football team, especially the New England Patriots.
It's pretty sad when the coach is less professional than his players...they're supposed to set some kind of example.

doesntmatter1 · Dec 17, 2014

Captain Cliche said:
Let me see...let's do a little inventory:

-He's a bloated slob that had to get an operation to thin down
-He has a tattoo of his wife wearing Sanchez's jersey (WTF)
-His team has no disipline and is a disfunctional trainwreck
-His team has no filter and says whatever to the media
-He makes outrageous boasts and doesn't back them up
-He builds up his players egos and then they crash and burn
-There's the whole foot fetish thing (probably irrelevent to his coaching, but creepy none the less and a total embarassment that he can't keep this **** behind closed doors)
-Oh yeah, there's that pesky win/loss thing
-Poor performance in all 3 phases of the game (his GM screwed him?????)

I wouldn't hire this clown to clean my toilets because he would probably screw that up...claiming he's the best toilet cleaner in the universe...all the while cleaning out my refrigerator instead.

Honestly, the dude is classless on a trailer trash level and should never get near a professional football team, especially the New England Patriots.
It's pretty sad when the coach is less professional than his players...they're supposed to set some kind of example.

I've seen some epic bashing of Rex and the Jets in general, but this was definitely top notch. You had me at the toilet lol. I somewhat like the dude, but the NFL should let this guy be the butt end of jokes for only so long.

BingoBrown · Dec 17, 2014

This game is going to be a blowout.I'm talking 40rty burger.
The game in NJ will be like a home game Jets fans, are ticket
dumping and the Jets want to lose for better draft pick.

livinginthe past · Dec 17, 2014

SalemPats said:
I agree, Rex is not god's gift to coaching, he doesn't manage his team in all aspects (offense/defense/ST) and one has to question his role in the offense. I do believe that he is better than half the coaches in the league and that Idzik has not built a team that fits Ryan's strategy. 5 years ago he was overrated and now he is underrated (if that makes sense)

Rex Ryan really must have the best PR guys in the game - despite his vaunted defence getting progressively worse over the last 4 years - somehow he has a rep as a defensive guru.

Some Patriots fans are suffering from PTSD caused by the 2010 playoff loss - and some tough divisional games afterward.

Look at his defence this year:

24th in PPG conceded
30th in 3rd down conversions allowed
31st in opposition QB rating
30th in takeaways per game

Regardless of how much people keep alluding to 'Idzik' - he wasn't around when the backbone of this team was drafted - that was Rex Ryan in conjunction with Tannenbaum.

I don't see any other coaches who get to consistently blame poor results on the GM/OC/QB...drafting in general.
Do the previous HC's in Cleveland/Oakland/Washington get to point the finger at someone else all the time?

I don't think they do.

They get fired - and often after a lot less than 4 less than mediocre years.

Tunescribe · Dec 17, 2014

rochrist said:
I think it's not so much his offensive expertise, as he is unable to focus enough on discipline and details.

Discipline/details might be part of it, but it's largely his lack of expertise on offense. He just doesn't know the finer points of coaching offense and doesn't want to bother with it. If you've ever watched him on the sideline during games, he seldom meets with the quarterback during timeouts when the Jets have the ball. I remember watching him closely during the last Jets-Pats game in Foxboro. A timeout was called at a crucial point late in the game. The OC was meeting with Gee-No! and Wrecks was pacing the sideline alone, with his back to them, 20 yards away. He's totally hands-off the offense. He doesn't have the mind or patience for it.

RayClay · Dec 17, 2014

Off The Grid said:
Absolutely. Like I said: He's an awfully talented Coach, vastly underrated by short-attention spanned Fans who read only HeadLines. Give'm a decent Setting, and he could be dangerous, indeed.

The "wrath" business by a squealing Jets fan was kind of funny, though!!

It's pathetic that Ryan still thinks anyone wants to listen to anything he has to say.

DarrylS · Dec 17, 2014

In games like this I always enjoying the clock management of the Pats vs. any second rate team.. this is an oft overlooked strength of this team.

RobertWeathers · Dec 17, 2014

livinginthe past said:
Regardless of how much people keep alluding to 'Idzik' - he wasn't around when the backbone of this team was drafted - that was Rex Ryan in conjunction with Tannenbaum.

With the exception of Sanchez, Shonn Green and FA Bart Scott, the backbone of the Jets playoff years in 2009 and 2010 was drafted/developed by Mangini.

BradyMoss812 · Dec 17, 2014

The thing is, Rex's best is not that good, based on the season so far.

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