Rex to BB: "You're getting my very best"

oldrover said:

I'm thinking they will play 5-6 DB's and make us run.

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They could play 11 DB's and Josh the Kid will have Brady heaving it up 70%+.

NYCPatsFan said:

Well, wouldn't BB be listening to Rex as a DC and not as a HC who just ruined a franchise?

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Same guy, and I'm not sure why we would want to listed to the guy about defense who built a defense that is ranked 24th in points allowed, after being 19th, 20th and 20th the last 3 years.
Since the start of 2011 Rex has coached his defense to 22nd in Points allowed and 29th in takeaways.

Considering Rex's D is now very familar with us and has given more problems to our O than any other team (I will never forget how they came home and beat us during the playoffs a few years back - inspite of us having a bye-week and Rex pathetically taunting Brady in the PC), wouldn't BB be interested in knowing what are our O's flaws that Rex sees and exploits?

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The Patriots are 8-4 against Rex Ryan's Jets and have scored an average of 27.7 points per game.
In the last 4 seasons, the Jets held our offense to less than 27 points one time, and that was in a driving rain storm.
The hype about Ryan is just that, hype, and it is unsubstantiated.

SalemPats said:

He's not BB, but he can coach a defense, he's better than half the coaches in the league.

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In the last 4 years his defense is ranked 22nd in points allowed and 29th in takeaways.
He can coach defense.....poorly.

SalemPats said:

None of us like Rex, but he's not a bad coach. He's being screwed by management and sometimes his false bravado clouds his judgement to be impartial. I love the way he uses his secondary and LBs in pass rush situations. If he wants to be successful, he needs to go somewhere where management and him are on the same page in terms of roster management and coaching philosophy. He needs to seperate himself a bit from the players so he can make decisions that are best for the team.

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He a very good defensive coordinator but a mediocre head coach at best. He has no idea how to run an offense at all, and can't choose an OC to save his life. There is much more to being head coach than coming up with some good defensive game plans, and that's really all Ryan has done.

SalemPats said:

I agree, Rex is not god's gift to coaching, he doesn't manage his team in all aspects (offense/defense/ST) and one has to question his role in the offense. I do believe that he is better than half the coaches in the league and that Idzik has not built a team that fits Ryan's strategy. 5 years ago he was overrated and now he is underrated (if that makes sense)

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You can't blame Idzik when the team has been deteriorating all along. His last winning season was FIVE years ago.
The defense has been BAD ever since and the offense maybe even worse.
Of course his lack of leadership led to a fractured lockerroom, his bluster has made him a laughing stock.
Top half of the coaches? Based on what? He really, really sucks.

Not having read the previous 2 pages. I'm sure there are plenty of toe puns
If not. Whats got into you people.

Overheard in the Coaches Shower Room..

resdubwhite said:

Not having read the previous 2 pages. I'm sure there are plenty of toe puns
If not. Whats got into you people.

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You mean, like he's putting his best foot forward in this game? That his players will toe the line for him? That he will not be de-feet-ed? That his "sole" mission is beating New England? Or, he plans to "nail" a victory? Wrecks apparently isn't ****yfooting around this time.

SalemPats said:

None of us like Rex, but he's not a bad coach. He's being screwed by management and sometimes his false bravado clouds his judgement to be impartial. I love the way he uses his secondary and LBs in pass rush situations. If he wants to be successful, he needs to go somewhere where management and him are on the same page in terms of roster management and coaching philosophy. He needs to seperate himself a bit from the players so he can make decisions that are best for the team.

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In the last 4 years in addtition to being 22nd in points allowed, and 29th in takeaways, his defenses are 21st in sacks.
As a comparison, in this same timeframe, the Patriots (Whose defense most fans on this board have destroyed as sucking for most of that time) have:
21 more sacks (Patriots are 8th, Jets are 21st)
194 fewer points allowed (NE 8th, NJ 21st)
47 more takeaways (NE 1, NJ 29) Yes that is more than 3/4s more takeaways per game.

Exactly what do you like about schemes that allow a lot of points, dont sack the QB and dont take the ball away?

Tunescribe said:

You mean, like he's putting his best foot forward in this game? That his players will toe the line for him? That he will not be de-feet-ed? That his "sole" mission is beating New England? Or, he plans to "nail" a victory? Wrecks apparently isn't ****yfooting around this time.

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Bootiful. Just bootiful

shmessy said:

They could play 11 DB's and Josh the Kid will have Brady heaving it up 70%+.

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and win

Jet's offense is terrible, the Pats defense would have to be monumentally awful to give up 25 points to them again. My biggest fear, is injuries, the Jets will probably come at the Pats like it's a fight, and I want the Pats to be ready for any attempts to injure.

resdubwhite said:

Bootiful. Just bootiful

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It was a real shoe-in. I try to be "instep" with the times when it comes to things like this. I mean, I'm no "loafer" and have never been accused of acting like a "heel." I also try to hold my "tongue" when there's nothing else to say, and at least express myself accurately -- in which case I reach for the "oxford" dictionary.

Young Wrecks, back in his high school daze ...

LOL, some of these comments, but I have no doubt that Rex is going to try to go out with a bang, and if he can beat the Pats he will. He's come up with some good game plans against us in the past, and the Jets even played us tough the first time around this year which has been a complete disaster for them. So, I am not looking past them and I hope the Pats aren't either. Will it surprise me if the Pats come out smokin' and blow the doors off the Jets? Nope, but it also won't surprise me if they hang tough with us, at least for a little while. There are no gimmes in the NFL.

Tunescribe said:

It was a real shoe-in. I try to be "instep" with the times when it comes to things like this. I mean, I'm no "loafer" and have never been accused of acting like a "heel." I also try to hold my "tongue" when there's nothing else to say, and at least express myself accurately -- in which case I reach for the "oxford" dictionary.

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Watch out! Wes Welker got run out of town for comments like these!

Thinking just a couple of weeks ahead, what is Rex's exit comments...."Just think of what you'll be missing - You won't have Rex Ryan to kick around anymore?"

resdubwhite said:

Not having read the previous 2 pages. I'm sure there are plenty of toe puns
If not. Whats got into you people.

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I was expecting at some point of a creepy comparison between Rex and Jerry Sandusky.

shmessy said:

They could play 11 DB's and Josh the Kid will have Brady heaving it up 70%+.

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Don't get me staahted.

AndyJohnson said:

In the last 4 years in addtition to being 22nd in points allowed, and 29th in takeaways, his defenses are 21st in sacks.
As a comparison, in this same timeframe, the Patriots (Whose defense most fans on this board have destroyed as sucking for most of that time) have:
21 more sacks (Patriots are 8th, Jets are 21st)
194 fewer points allowed (NE 8th, NJ 21st)
47 more takeaways (NE 1, NJ 29) Yes that is more than 3/4s more takeaways per game.

Exactly what do you like about schemes that allow a lot of points, dont sack the QB and dont take the ball away?

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He loves to play man on the outside and throw exotic blitz packages. Idzik screwed him. He has a top 5 D-Line in Wilkerson, Richardson and Coples, you throw in Revis and Cro instead of getting rid of them and that is a scary defense. Idzik and Ryan are on different wavelengths. Is this Ryan's fault as well, yes, if he could had a good knowledge of the offense and game planned well he would have more power. Just look at the AFC, the only coaches i would take over him are BB, O'Brien, Pagano, Fox, Harbaugh, Reid and Tomlin,