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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.You are so much more openly insulting of Deus than I am.. why don't you have Christiancat replying to every one of your posts regarding Deus to scold you for being mean to "one of the nicest posters on the board"?
Collins is turning into the type of player that other fan bases go "why the **** didn't we draft that guy" when talking about him.
It's pretty clear that if Collins had been in a functional college program he would have been a big name player. As is, though, his development is pretty incredible: from high school quarterback to having his position changed every year on a hapless, winless small-conference team, to wearing the green dot and making plays all over the field as a 2nd-year pro. And still improving, fast.
For all that we rightly bemoan a string of 2nd-round Pats busts, the fact is they also have some spectacular round-2 triumphs in Collins, Gronkowski and Vollmer. (When you hear the stat that the league only hits on half of 2nd rounders, remember that a player like Pat Chung counts as a hit. Gronk et al are off the charts.)
It looks like he mistimed his leap and STILL blocked the kick.
Time for a rant.
People bemoan guys like Tavon Wilson and Duron Harmon as "busts". There are lots of ways of measuring busts. These guys have not developed into starters, or major rotational guys, so they have not met hopes in some respects. But they are not unproductive. Both are good STers, and both have performed well in limited duty this year, including yesterday. One way to assess the "success" of a draft pick is whether they get a 2nd deal from the team, and both Harmon and Wilson are likely to move on after their rookie deals expire. (Aside: the Pats have drafted quite well by this standard.) But getting decent depth and ST production from the back end of the roster at low cost isn't to be despised. There are many players taken around the same time as those guys who have already been jettisoned by their original teams. Even Josh Boyce is still on the PS, has won practice player of the week awards, and provides reserve depth at minimal cost, with some (albeit long shot) potential to develop into something more. Guys like Fleming and Stork, who become significant contributors as rookies, are gold.
Awesome. I wish the FG block had another angle to show just how high off the ground he is when making that swat. It's some NBA level swattage. For what it's worth, he had the 91 of his jersey at ~ head height of #74, who is listed as 6'6" on the 'Phins website (granted he's not standing perfectly straight up, and this is viewed at an angle, etc.).
Edit, haha look just above this post for the picture that I was looking for Thanks @Big-T
When I read this it makes me Wonder, do Patriots FO use the same Trade value charts as the rest of us earthlings, or do BB have hes own tabel. The old chart is made before the salary cap area and the way BB moves Down to get cheap backups / ST value Guys makes me Wonder.
Time for a rant.
The media, and much of this board, has the expectation that every draft pick should become a star.
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And yet even as recently as 2 months ago people were talking about him as a "bust", a "bad draft pick", and "slow". Which simply underscores how inept most people are at assessing talent and production.
#74, Jason Fox is stood upright and is listed at 6'6" and Collins has half of his torso above that guys head! It looks like his feet are level with Fox's knees too.
People bemoan guys like Tavon Wilson and Duron Harmon as "busts"
The fuming over Harmon in particular is a head-scratcher. He was picked at the very end of round 3 last year and is now the top backup to McCourty. What's the problem?
As for "value," check this out:
- "Inexcusable reach" Duron Harmon has 3 career interceptions and 5 passes defended.
- The 5 DBs selected after him have combined for 1 career interception and 6 passes defended.
#74, Jason Fox is stood upright and is listed at 6'6" and Collins has half of his torso above that guys head! It looks like his feet are level with Fox's knees too.
For 2012 I think it is likely that Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower and Nate Ebner will get 2nd contracts. Alfonzo Dennard is on the fence.
I put 50-50 odds that Dennard gets traded in the offseason, since his salary has jumped to the RFA tender level.
I feel like the unreal expectations you write of can also be applied to a guy like Devin McCourty. Some folks view him as a failure because he wound up switching to S from CB.
Hard to see how a guy can exceed the expectations of your typical late 1st round pick by much more of a margin than DMC has.
He did indeed, look how high up he is compared to where the ball is here (great picture):
I would expect that BBs chart is flexible and changes based on things like the makeup of the draft and the picks they do have.When I read this it makes me Wonder, do Patriots FO use the same Trade value charts as the rest of us earthlings, or do BB have hes own tabel. The old chart is made before the salary cap area and the way BB moves Down to get cheap backups / ST value Guys makes me Wonder.