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Get some copy editors to the Post quickly.

Former Patriots doctor Thomas Gill, right, watches as offensive linemen Chris Barket and Naste Soder go through some workouts before a game in December 2013. (Boston Globe/Boston Globe via Getty Images)
 
Get some copy editors to the Post quickly.

Former Patriots doctor Thomas Gill, right, watches as offensive linemen Chris Barket and Naste Soder go through some workouts before a game in December 2013. (Boston Globe/Boston Globe via Getty Images)


Whoa! Dikembe works for the Washington Post?


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d%#*!@t. more pats controversy fodder for the news media. Seems like they are always looking for some opportunity. Wasnt fanene the guy who lied about his injury or something ?
 
Nothing to see here... but more than enough for the haters and ESPN to blow out of proportion.
 
On the plus side, Thomas Gill is the best doctor around at making sports radio more interesting.

Seriously though - this seems like much ado about nothing. Was Fanene going to die if they didn't operate on his knee immediately? Come on. You mean the team wanted to see if they could get recoup an otherwise wasted $4M back before just cutting him open?! Holy crap, stop the presses.
 
Here we go again.
 
Seriously though - this seems like much ado about nothing. Was Fanene going to die if they didn't operate on his knee? Come on. You mean the team wanted to see if they could get nearly $4M back before cutting him open?! Holy crap, stop the presses.

I hope this is the closing argument.
 
On the plus side, Thomas Gill is the best doctor around at making sports radio more interesting.

Seriously though - this seems like much ado about nothing. Was Fanene going to die if they didn't operate on his knee immediately? Come on. You mean the team wanted to see if they could get recoup an otherwise wasted $4M back before just cutting him open?! Holy crap, stop the presses.


Exactly. The Patriots had to push their case while someone could examine the knee in the condition that it was in - - not AFTER a surgery that could have gone either way. They received damaged goods. They should not have been expected to fix those damaged goods themselves before getting redress. What's the gripe?
 
Exactly. The Patriots had to push their case while someone could examine the knee in the condition that it was in - - not AFTER a surgery that could have gone either way. They received damaged goods. They should not have been expected to fix those damaged goods themselves before getting redress. What's the gripe?

The gripe would be the potential conflict between best interests of the team and best interests of the player.

If, hypothetically, it is in the best interests of a player to have a medical procedure to fix damage, and it is in the best interests of the team not to fix it - whether for a legal case review, as above, or simply to avoid a long rehab mid-season - then there is the potential for conflict. If you were the player, and medically the best thing for you was to undergo surgery as soon as possible, you'd want that surgery. That would be the gripe.

That said, I find it hard to see a conflict in this specific case. a) They probably have cameras at that Mass Gen place - best hospital in the world. Would be pretty easy to document the extent of the damage during surgery. b) The doctor is the expert in this situation, and could provide notes of the damage, whether or not the surgery is performed. It's not like they are going to open up the player's knee in front of an arbitrator and say "See!" Given that, there would be no benefit to the team of avoiding or delaying surgery. So no obvious conflict. Probably the opposite - much to their benefit to get inside the knee to see exactly the nature of the damage.

Again hypothetically, a grayer area is when a player has an injury that doesn't totally prevent him from playing, but puts him at risk of a worse injury. Say the team suggests continuing to play. Then it is up to the doctor, no different than decisions made by the trainer, to decide in the best interests of the player.

The benefit of having a guy like Dr. Gill as the official team physician is that he is the best. The team wants the most experienced, most expert physician serving the players on that team. The disadvantage is the direct relationship with the team rather than an individual patient. You have to trust that prominent physicians like this - and many surgeons are rumored to have bigger egos than team owners at times - will always decide based on the best interests of the patient.
 
The gripe would be the potential conflict between best interests of the team and best interests of the player.

If, hypothetically, it is in the best interests of a player to have a medical procedure to fix damage, and it is in the best interests of the team not to fix it - whether for a legal case review, as above, or simply to avoid a long rehab mid-season - then there is the potential for conflict. If you were the player, and medically the best thing for you was to undergo surgery as soon as possible, you'd want that surgery. That would be the gripe.

Fair point - but I don't think there's any evidence suggesting that in this case. So I doubt this controversy has legs.
 
Interesting article in the Washington Post: http://tinyurl.com/nqxv6hv
Who gives a s### any more? Are people going to hate the Pats more than they already do? I'm immune to this crap now. As long as there are no sanctions forthcoming which derail this season, I don't care what happens.
 
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