PatsBoy12
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Satan Manning . . . that's a new one. LOLAll i can say is that im gonna be the biggest Chargers fan this week! F Satan Manning.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Satan Manning . . . that's a new one. LOLAll i can say is that im gonna be the biggest Chargers fan this week! F Satan Manning.
You guys focus on wobbly passes....I focus on the efficiency he places the ball in his receivers hands. His passes may be ugly, but they sure are accurate.You can have your numbers. What happened when he played in Foxboro in the windy conditions? What about the many people who actually watch film who have been saying, even last season, that the velocity on his passes has clearly dropped off. You probably think he's the G.O.A.T. too because of his video game numbers year after year. After everything you listed, he still has just one ring and they didn't win it all last season. Some people man, I swear, live and die by statistics. Good day, sir.
You guys focus on wobbly passes....I focus on the efficiency he places the ball in his receivers hands. His passes may be ugly, but they sure are accurate.
Velocity???? Do inaccurate fast balls get QBs style points from the experts. No wonder I don't watch experts on TV.
GOAT?? I don't usually waste too much time wrapping my head around personal opinions....especially at such a subjective position reliant on so many exterior factors. Greatest passer....greatest QB.....two different conversations in my view. The one question I would dwell on the most would definitely be....shouldn't the GOAT be able to make all the throws? On this point I view Brady as limited. JMO.
And since you are telling me Championships is the end all determining factor....I guess I must hand the GOAT label to the old man I happened to be playing golf with years ago at an outing. Didn't know who "Otto" was at the time until Ted Williams came cruising down the 16th fairway in the wrong direction so he could find his old buddy Otto Graham... 7 time champion... no statistics necessary to boost this guy. There you go......Otto ticks all your boxes
Who cares what happened in Foxboro? We beat them last year and it didn't mean a damn. If we don't get to the Super Bowl this year and they miraculously do, this year's meeting won't mean a damn as well.You can have your numbers. What happened when he played in Foxboro in the windy conditions? What about the many people who actually watch film who have been saying, even last season, that the velocity on his passes has clearly dropped off. You probably think he's the G.O.A.T. too because of his video game numbers year after year. After everything you listed, he still has just one ring and they didn't win it all last season. Some people man, I swear, live and die by statistics. Good day, sir.
Who cares what happened in Foxboro? We beat them last year and it didn't mean a damn. If we don't get to the Super Bowl this year and they miraculously do, this year's meeting won't mean a damn as well.
Person A has had repeated after repeated praise. Person A is portrayed (rightly or wrongly) as a very likeable person. Person A always takes the blame for any bad results, Person A always spreads the wealth around with good results (whether true or untrue). They are a media darling.
Person B has mixed bag between praise and criticism, possibly even mostly criticism. Person B is portrayed (frequently wrongly) as stuck up, or unfriendly, or less than likeable. They are a media target.
The Specific Situation; Person A and Person B yells at one of their teammates in the exact same way and in the exact same situation for the exact same thing. So how will media frame the story behind the yelling? Person A was motivating and/or encouraging his teammate. Person B was probably being an unsportsmanlike jerk. In other words two people can act/react exactly the same, however, the liked person gets the positive spin, the less than liked person gets uncertain/negative spin.
This can become so pervasive with a media darling (Brett Favre) who has had so much praise heaped on him for so long, it becomes taboo to question that media created sainthood. It could even puts one's media job in a bit of uncertainty to buck that perpetual 'positive spin' media darling machine. We see this kind of thing with politicians, actors, sports stars, celebrities. Media decides, without regard to fact frequently, whether you will walk on water with a halo around you or you have a set of horns. It's just how it works with these sickening media @$$clowns/media machine....
You guys focus on wobbly passes....I focus on the efficiency he places the ball in his receivers hands. His passes may be ugly, but they sure are accurate.
Velocity???? Do inaccurate fast balls get QBs style points from the experts. No wonder I don't watch experts on TV.
GOAT?? I don't usually waste too much time wrapping my head around personal opinions....especially at such a subjective position reliant on so many exterior factors. Greatest passer....greatest QB.....two different conversations in my view. The one question I would dwell on the most would definitely be....shouldn't the GOAT be able to make all the throws? On this point I view Brady as limited. JMO.
And since you are telling me Championships is the end all determining factor....I guess I must hand the GOAT label to the old man I happened to be playing golf with years ago at an outing. Didn't know who "Otto" was at the time until Ted Williams came cruising down the 16th fairway in the wrong direction so he could find his old buddy Otto Graham... 7 time champion... no statistics necessary to boost this guy. There you go......Otto ticks all your boxes
Not if it's windy.I still think he can throw a better deep ball than Brady can (and to better receivers).
How about the int he threw against Miami while sitting on his ass a few years ago?You cant remember worse throws because there haven't been any. Thank you for making my point.
And there haven't been many bad throws like that over his career. And I'm sure there are some that I cant remember too.
My point was they do happen but they seem to happen with more frequency and on the road..
Yeah, I just saw some of Peyton from the past three games, and anything over 20 yards was a moonshot, and they were /really/ inaccurate. I don't remember ever seeing him like this.I love how the media never once mentioned the ducks he has been throwing all year and the past 3-4 games you can see it bad
Is Person B supposed to be Brady? Because I don't think he's portrayed as unfriendly, or stuck up or is a media target. He just doesn't get as much praise as Manning does. It's certainly true that it's odd Manning gets a complete pass for his incident in college while being portrayed as Mr. All-American Values, when really, Brady comes a lot close to epitomizing those values over the course of his whole career.
TL;DR I think the issue is excessive praise for Manning rather than lack of praise for Brady. I'm sure a lot of the country is sick of both of them.
[quote=''Bill Belichick]Peyton Manning is great. I would not want anyone more at QB than Tom Brady
So that in mind, here's a list of QB hits + sacks (the Pats are 11th in terms of QB hits + sacks); the last column is on a per-attempt basis; Brady is hit/sacked on 11% of his dropbacks, which is 9th in the league (Manning and the Broncos rank 2nd with hits on only 7% of pass attempts. Pretty remarkable for such an immobile QB).
EDIT: sorry for the terrible formatting, anyone know how to get this tabbed?
RankTeamSks AllwdQB HitsTotal PressuresATTPressure/Attempt
1OAK1022325030.063618
2DEN1025355020.069721
3BLT923324390.072893
4PHI1531465070.09073
5CIN1526414160.098558
6PIT2131525130.101365
7NO1144555380.10223
8DAL1725423900.107692
9NE1343565060.110672
10NYG1837554880.112705
11ATL1647635080.124016
12CLV1542574360.130734
13CAR2538634580.137555
14HST1241533820.138743
15IND2060805480.145985
16SD2243654450.146067
17SL2340634070.154791
18CHI3048785030.15507
19GB2545704310.162413
20SF2939684180.162679
21SEA2140613730.163539
22ARZ1758754530.165563
23TEN2643694120.167476
24BUF2754814800.16875
25MIA3052824620.177489
26DET3257894960.179435
27KC2944733890.187661
28WAS3156874490.193764
29JAX3659954580.207424
30NYJ3156874160.209135
31TB3168994540.218062
32MIN3762994250.232941
Actually, I remember Al Michaels using the phrase "wobble ball" a few times a couple weeks ago.I love how the media never once mentioned the ducks he has been throwing all year and the past 3-4 games you can see it bad
If true, he's lucky he still has a job.Actually, I remember Al Michaels using the phrase "wobble ball" a few times a couple weeks ago.