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Nice writeup on DTs Malcolm Brown and Eddie Goldman from the Seahawk's Draft Blog:

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/malcom-brown-eddie-goldman-should-be-first-rounders

The writer is particularly high on Goldman:

Florida State have produced a number of overrated defensive linemen in recent years. I was never a big fan of Tank Carradine even before the ACL injury. Timmy Jernigan just looked really average. You could go back to Everette Brown too. So many players who flattered to deceive. Eddie Goldman is different.

You put on the tape and consistently his number jumps off the screen. He has the get-off that Brown lacks and he’s into the backfield with an initial quick step and the athleticism to catch a linemen off guard. He’s taller than Brown (6-3/6-4) and 315lbs — but again carries the weight well. He’s totaled four sacks in 2014 and eight TFL’s. He’s also a terrific run defender.

Goldman has no trouble plugging holes and remaining stout to shut down lanes. His speed off the snap works equally well here — having watched the Louisville and Clemson games again today he was forcing running backs to bounce outside with immediate penetration into the backfield. He’s pretty close to the complete interior defensive lineman.

I’m not convinced he’ll be quite the athlete Donald was this year. He has at least a decent chance of emulating Sheldon Richardson though — and should be good for a slot in the top-20 if he does turn pro. There just aren’t that many players who can line up in any down/distance and work the run and pass as well as Goldman. Effective interior pass rushers are like gold dust. Any chance you get to bring in a pocket-collapsing dynamo who makes life easier for the edge rushers should be taken. It was shocking to see Richardson last as long as he did in 2013.
 
I am curious about opinions of Xzavier ****son from Alabama. I have no idea about the reason behind his suspension. I do not think he will be drafted, but you folks seem much more knowledgeable than I am.
I have been very impressed with the discussions pertaining to the draft. Very good folks..
 
I am curious about opinions of Xzavier ****son from Alabama. I have no idea about the reason behind his suspension. I do not think he will be drafted, but you folks seem much more knowledgeable than I am.
I have been very impressed with the discussions pertaining to the draft. Very good folks..

He was probably suspended for having illiterate parents.
 
What do people think of Ohio State WR Devin Smith? He's fairly limited as an outside speed guy but he's got genuine speed. there does seem to be a role for a WR that just runs the deep route in this offense, albeit a limited one. Just look at how Tyms has been used.
 
I think Cameron erving was pretty impressive. Versatility plus athletic ability and good character. Play any OL position. Maybe in the 2nd.
 
I was thinking about TJ Clemmings' arm length and I don't know whether this is a good way to ty and judge it but....

Tyron Smith had 36 3/8" arms. As you can see here, his fingers extend past his thigh pad:

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And here's TJ Clemmings:

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A very similar length. If Clemmings has 35" arms plus on top of his athleticism and size, he's a good bet for a top 15 draft rank.
 
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And the short-armed Riley Reiff's fingers don't even get to his thigh pads:

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Also, after looking at Nate Solder, I'd guess that Clemmings is 35" plus and could be as much as 36"
 
Forgive me, but one more. I realise that this system is far from perfect but arm length is important on the edge of both OL and DL. So...

Chandler Jones (35" plus)

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Owamagbe Odhigizuwa (no 94):


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I used him because i've felt his long arms were one of his greater assets and they seem to be in that Chandler jones range

No more photos I promise, but one of my other favourites, Marcus Hardison's fingers fall below his thigh pad (just) so he could be in that 35" to 36" range.
 
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What do people think of Ohio State WR Devin Smith? He's fairly limited as an outside speed guy but he's got genuine speed. there does seem to be a role for a WR that just runs the deep route in this offense, albeit a limited one. Just look at how Tyms has been used.


Daniel Jeremiah doesn't see Smith falling out of the 2nd round:

Smith (6-foot-1, 199 pounds) is big, fast and physical. He has great ball skills to go up and get it. All of those attributes were on display Saturday night.

I don't see him going any lower than the second round of the draft, and I look forward to taking a closer look at him during the lead-up to the draft.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-draft-stock-on-rise?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cfb

That's a little rich for me.
 
Tevin Coleman's speed

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Another RB name to watch out for is Arizona State's DJ Foster. He's a Jnr, but for a RB, that's almost as good as a Senior. I mention him for two reasons:

1. Here are Shane Vereen's numbers from NFL Draft Scout pre-combine:

5-10, 210 and forty range is 4.40 to 4.59 (actually ran 4.49).

Here's DJ Foster's

5-11, 205 and forty range 4.40 to 4.59

So similar size and maybe similar athleticism.

Which leads me to:

2. DJ Foster's receiving yards the last three years:

2012: 38 for 553
2013: 63 for 653
2014: 59 for 646

He played slot receiver in '12 and '13 because ASU had Marion Grice but he's been a RB this year and has over a 1,000 yds at 5.5 ypc.

An interesting Shane Vereen type prospect.
 
And the short-armed Riley Reiff's fingers don't even get to his thigh pads:

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Also, after looking at Nate Solder, I'd guess that Clemmings is 35" plus and could be as much as 36"

According to Wikipedia, Reiff has 33-1/4" arms, for perspective.
 
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Some DeForest Buckner love:

The Oregon defense had a completely dominant performance in the Pac-12 Championship Game, in which Arizona had just 25 first-half yards of offense, and the Ducks ultimately won the game, 51-13. There were many impressive performers among the Ducks defenders, but the star of the unit Friday night was junior defensive end DeForest Buckner.

A disruptive presence along the line of scrimmage throughout the game, Buckner brought pressure on numerous occasions, including two combined sacks (he was credited with a half-sack for each), while he also made a number of strong stops around the line of scrimmage versus the run.

A 6’7”, 290-pound defensive end who has the size and athleticism to line up on either inside or outside, Buckner has emerged as an excellent player in his junior year. He uses his hands well, rarely gets driven off the line of scrimmage on running plays and has great burst in pursuit for a man of his measurables.

Recognized as a second-team All-Pac-12 selection this year, Buckner leads the Ducks with 11.5 tackles for loss.

Buckner’s not a household name yet, but he’ll likely be a high selection if he declares for the draft. Former NFL scout John Middlekauff sees Buckner as “a top-20 pick.”

While the second round might be a more realistic landing spot for the Oregon defensive end, his physical traits and schematic versatility will lead him to rise. Coming out of Oregon’s 3-4 system, he might project best to playing as a 5-technique defensive end in the NFL, but he could also fit in a 4-3 front.

Current Draft Projection: Rounds 1-2

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2292980-nfl-draft-2015-updated-prospect-radar-post-week-14/page/5

I haven't compared Buckner and Marcus Harrison, but at some point I think it could be an interesting exercise.
 
Amari Cooper at 16? Dorial Green Beckham at 6? Shan Ray at 28? Terrible rankings. And Melvin Gordon is sure as hell not a tip ten prospect. Some of these are just clieless.
 
there aren't any DBs in that list.
 
I have four OL prospects right at the top of my prospects liked list in Ronnie Stanley, TJ Clemmings, Brandon Scherff and La'el Collins, all of whom I consider fairly equal in terms of how I would grade them. Stanley* and Clemmings project better to OL whilst Scherff and Collins project better to OG (although can play OT well). That four quality OL will all go before the twenties seems ambitious to me. I think there's a real chance one lasts until we are in a position to get them. It's a good position to be in if we are looking at OL in round one.

I mention those four because I think all represent very good first round value. Of course Andrus Peat, Cedrick Ogbuehi, Jack Conklin, Ty Sambraillo and Jake Fisher are all round one/two possibilities too.

* aware that this depends on Stanley declaring.
 


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