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Post-GB, we still need on defense a Major League Pass-Rusher, and a competent CB coach.
 
Post-GB, we still need on defense a Major League Pass-Rusher, and a competent CB coach.

Or CB coach is just fine. Give credit to GB for doing some creative stuff. And our best "major league pass rusher" has been out for the past 6 weeks. I agree we need another, but let's not pretend that the position has been ignored.

Tedy Bruschi had some very good insights on both of these issues in his chat today. Regarding the secondary:

Q. Did you notice how in the second half Sunday between the Patriots and Packers, Logan Ryan was no longer assigned to cover Davante Adams? In the first half, that looked like the sleeper matchup that Aaron Rodgers was going to go to all game long. Was that maybe a move that helped keep Green Bay within reach? -- Jason (Germany)

A. I'll tell you, Logan Ryan was hanging in there early, in good position. When a quarterback like Rodgers has his eye on you for most of the day, it's going to be a hard assignment. I thought the Patriots did a great job of taking away the top two weapons of the Packers' offense (I know Jordy Nelson made a big play, and you give him credit). When you go against a team like this, the battle of your third and fourth defensive backs against the third and fourth options in the passing game is where the game will be won or lost. I did think Patrick Chung played a good game in terms of supporting the run. As for Ryan and Kyle Arrington, you're scrambling to find the right fit there when a quarterback like Rodgers is targeting that spot.

This was intellectual football on both sides. You could see the adjustments Mike McCarthy made. In the first half, one of them was coming out in "01" personnel (no backs, one tight end). You see one of your main weapons, receiver Randall Cobb, getting handled at the line of scrimmage. So let's take our running back off the field and put Cobb in the backfield. So now it's Kyle Arrington on Cobb out of the backfield.

They're also using bunch formations to create traffic problems. I'm shaking my head rewatching the film, as there are brilliant adjustments on each side of the ball.

The wheel route to Cobb, when Rob Ninkovich was on him, I don't think Ninkovich had him man-to-man. I just think he's doing what he's taught -- to peel off when that threat is presented to him. If you watch, Arrington has Cobb in man coverage from the LB level, and he's aligned at the LB level because Cobb is in the backfield, and that's where he should be aligned. Arrington gets caught up in a traffic situation from the bunch and he can't make it through to get his coverage. Ninkovich is doing the best he can to hold him off. But come on -- Ninkovich running with Cobb? There you have McCarthy telling Bill Belichick, "I have a bag of tricks, too."

Q. Followed the game Sunday here from Europe (another short night for me), and to be honest, I'm not too disappointed. The Patriots did not have their best game by any means (I saw a lot of room for improvement on offense and defense) and still they managed to stay in the game until the very end. The only downside for me was that the Packers managed to decide this game with their No. 3 receiver (Logan Ryan and Alfonzo Dennard were beaten several times). I thought our defensive back depth was better than their wide receiver depth, but I may have to reconsider that. What are your thoughts on this? -- Michael (Vienna)

A. This may be the story as the year unfolds, Michael. That's what the Patriots are coming to be known as throughout the league with this quality high-end secondary. I say "high end" when looking at the personnel: Darrelle Revis, Brandon Browner, Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Kyle Arrington, Alfonzo Dennard and Logan Ryan. Now look past those first few spots, and start to look at the middle/end of that list of names. Based on Sunday, those are the players who will have a big say if this team makes a strong playoff push.

And regarding the pass rush:

Q. Hi Tedy, defensively (from a scheme point of view) what could the Pats have done differently/better to get to Rodgers on Sunday? It appeared to me that Rodgers had all day to throw the ball. -- Jason (Boston)

A. Jason, that was one of the obvious problems -- the time Rodgers had. I know some people might say, "How can you give Rodgers 12 seconds to throw the ball?" That's what they were saying on TV. There will probably be clocks on "SportsCenter" this week timing the rush, but I thought the combination of how they attacked Rodgers was brilliant. Matt Patricia used four-man rushes, three-man rushes and different types of three-man rushes. One example (second quarter, 6:36) came when they started out with a four-man rush look, but on the snap, both edge rushers (Ninkovich, Akeem Ayers) look to reroute the receivers or help on the slants. So essentially that turns into a two-man rush. But then Dont'a Hightower, from his inside linebacker position, power rushes up the middle to beat the confused interior of the offensive line, as the defensive tackles that are left use an outside rush to solidify contain. I've played in this defense for a while and I don't remember that type of three-man rush. This has Patricia written all over it. This creativity fires me up. So you got the slant taken care of, you have extra help in coverage, and you have unexpected pressure by the three-man rush. This is good stuff!

Q. Tedy, I brought this up to you a couple weeks ago. I thought the lack of a pass rush would hurt the Patriots. I thought that was what cost them the game. Your thoughts? -- John (Salem, Massachusetts)

A. This relates to the last question. So having addressed all the combinations of 3-man rush and 4-man rush, what eventually happens is that you have to win 1-on-1 in the pass rush. That's what the Patriots could have had more of.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...patriots-packers-clinic-intellectual-football

Let's give up the delusion that the defense (including the secondary) is not very well coached, and executing some incredibly sophisticated stuff at a very high level. But the other team makes plays, too, and just because Green Bay made a few more than we did isn't an indictment of the team or the coaches.

But I agree that another rotational versatile pass rusher would come in handy. Shawn Oakman, Bud Dupree, Dante Fowler or Danielle Hunter, please.[/quote]
 
Why is it then that Every young CB regresses here under the "leadership" from the legend from
the Colorado School of Mines?
 
Why is it then that Every young CB regresses here under the "leadership" from the legend from
the Colorado School of Mines?

Probably because they are being given more responsibility and asked to do more things. It's the nature of the Belichick defense. Start out players by keeping things simple, and then expanding their responsibilities. Those that struggle are either jettisoned, or re-assigned to lesser roles. Those that thrive becomes leaders and foundational players.
 
Which would be the way it should work, except that not even one of them has succeeded,
let alone thrived.
 
Great, great stuff, Brother!! Props!!
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04 ~ Beyond that? I'd build my Team from the Trenches outward, gather Split Ends, ignore SlotBacks, gather FlexBacks while ignoring HalfBacks who aren't Receiving Threats, develop and deploy a terrifying PlayOff Defense from the Trenches outward...and begin amassing Championships.
That begins with upgrading the offensive guard position. In my opinion, Connolly and Wendell are one year stop gaps at the offensive guard position this season since Cannon, Devey, Kline, Barker have been complete flops. Dan Connolly will be an unrestricted free agent next year. Ryan Wendell seems best suited as the backup offensive center next year.
 
Post-GB, we still need on defense a Major League Pass-Rusher, and a competent CB coach.
Lack of interior pass rush. A pass rush needs to get the quarterback at least off the spot. Where the hell was Easley against the Green Bay Packers?
 
Which would be the way it should work, except that not even one of them has succeeded,
let alone thrived.

Did any of them thrive after leaving the Pats? Butler hasn't exactly set the world on fire, and it took a while for him to even stick.
 
Why is it then that Every young CB regresses here under the "leadership" from the legend from
the Colorado School of Mines?

This last part makes you sound no better than Felger. Don't be that guy, it is not necessary.

If you don't have any trust into Boyer, then have a little faith into B&B's trust into him. Given how we cut/trade players to make the team better, do you have any doubt that BB would do the same with the coaching staff if he found one of them lacking?
 
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Did any of them thrive after leaving the Pats? Butler hasn't exactly set the world on fire, and it took a while for him to even stick.

I'd take Darius Butler right now ahead of either Ryan or Dennard; it just took a while for him to wash away the Josh Boyer.
 
Given how we cut/trade players to make the team better, do you have any doubt that BB would do the same with the coaching staff if he found one of them lacking?

Unfortunately, I do indeed have doubt, and lots of it.
 
Question for you guys, how do you think Zach Moore developing?

I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting much from him this season, but the fact he's seeing some PT, leaves me encouraged for the future.
 
Question for you guys, how do you think Zach Moore developing?

I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting much from him this season, but the fact he's seeing some PT, leaves me encouraged for the future.

Yes, encouraged that BB drops him in there already for a few snaps. What impressed me most so far was how he was able to keep his cool when Raiola repeatedly went after him.

If he can stay calm after 3 or 4 cheap shots in a row, then I like the odds that he can also stay focused in the middle of the chaos that is a third down play.
 
Yes, encouraged that BB drops him in there already for a few snaps. What impressed me most so far was how he was able to keep his cool when Raiola repeatedly went after him.

If he can stay calm after 3 or 4 cheap shots in a row, then I like the odds that he can also stay focused in the middle of the chaos that is a third down play.

I agree it's encouraging. Not sure what his ceiling is at this point, but so far signs have been positive.
 
Nice to see a dominant defensive effort against SD yesterday. 7 points allowed, 216 total yards allowed, 53 yards rushing (3.1 average), 4 sacks, 7 QB hits, 1 INT, 4-13 3rd down conversion rate and 0-1 on 4th down. Dominating performance, without Chandler Jones or Dont'a Hightower. And a pick-6 negated by a questionable penalty call would have made it even more lopsided. It was comparable to the dominance put up by the Seahawks.

The Pats got stellar play from Jamie Collins, who had 2 sacks and was all over the field while wearing the green dot and coordinating a defensive masterpiece. They got shutdown play from Darrelle Revis, who made Keenan Allen a complete non-factor. They also got 54 out of 56 snaps played plus an INT from Akeem Ayers, and 50 out of 56 snaps played from Jonathan Casillas.

The Pats' stable of versatile guys who can play in space or on the line is just absurd. Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, Jamie Collins, Rob Ninkovich, Akeem Ayers.

Keeping Ayers and Casillas, along with Alan Branch and Pat Chung, should be a priority along with extending Revis and McCourty. And if that happens, add 1 more DE/LB who can play in space or on the line and a long term successor to Wilfork and the D should be sitting pretty.

Dante Fowler, Bud Dupree, Bernardrick McKinney, Danielle Hunter and maybe Shilique Calhoun all would seem to have the skill sets to fit perfectly. Not yet sure if Owamagbe Odighizuwa can play in space enough or where he fits, but very interested to see. Not quite sure about Shawn Oakman and DeForest Buckner, but still intrigued.
 
Nice to see a dominant defensive effort against SD yesterday. 7 points allowed, 216 total yards allowed, 53 yards rushing (3.1 average), 4 sacks, 7 QB hits, 1 INT, 4-13 3rd down conversion rate and 0-1 on 4th down. Dominating performance, without Chandler Jones or Dont'a Hightower. And a pick-6 negated by a questionable penalty call would have made it even more lopsided. It was comparable to the dominance put up by the Seahawks.

The Pats got stellar play from Jamie Collins, who had 2 sacks and was all over the field while wearing the green dot and coordinating a defensive masterpiece. They got shutdown play from Darrelle Revis, who made Keenan Allen a complete non-factor. They also got 54 out of 56 snaps played plus an INT from Akeem Ayers, and 50 out of 56 snaps played from Jonathan Casillas.

The Pats' stable of versatile guys who can play in space or on the line is just absurd. Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, Jamie Collins, Rob Ninkovich, Akeem Ayers.

Keeping Ayers and Casillas, along with Alan Branch and Pat Chung, should be a priority along with extending Revis and McCourty. And if that happens, add 1 more DE/LB who can play in space or on the line and a long term successor to Wilfork and the D should be sitting pretty.

Dante Fowler, Bud Dupree, Bernardrick McKinney, Danielle Hunter and maybe Shilique Calhoun all would seem to have the skill sets to fit perfectly. Not yet sure if Owamagbe Odighizuwa can play in space enough or where he fits, but very interested to see. Not quite sure about Shawn Oakman and DeForest Buckner, but still intrigued.

Good post. I was very encouraged by the defensive play as well. Particularly seeing what Siliga could do out there. Looks very healthy and makes an impact. I don't want to jump the gun here but I will add this.

After seeing the way Siliga played this game and Branch has played overall I am hesitant to say DT is a position with a gapping hole if you don't sign Wilfork next year. If you let him walk and get a 2M dollar FA DT (a Kelly type lets say) with Siliga/Branch/Easley/Chris Jones then while that is probably not elite it is solid enough.

I would say you have the flexibility perhaps to punt on a DT in the draft (meaning not picking one in the first 3 rounds) if some players fall to you that you like.

Right now going into the draft I would not be surprised to see a safety taken with our first pick. It is by far the thinnest area of our D without a true backup. After Chung and McCourty you don't have much. Maybe Harmon and Wilson are better than I think but IDK. I just know everywhere else you have at least 1 quality backup for sure.
 
Good post. I was very encouraged by the defensive play as well. Particularly seeing what Siliga could do out there. Looks very healthy and makes an impact. I don't want to jump the gun here but I will add this.

After seeing the way Siliga played this game and Branch has played overall I am hesitant to say DT is a position with a gapping hole if you don't sign Wilfork next year. If you let him walk and get a 2M dollar FA DT (a Kelly type lets say) with Siliga/Branch/Easley/Chris Jones then while that is probably not elite it is solid enough.

I would say you have the flexibility perhaps to punt on a DT in the draft (meaning not picking one in the first 3 rounds) if some players fall to you that you like.

I don't think DT is a must, but there are some very good players who could help a lot, depending on who declares: Danny Shelton, Eddie Goldman*, Malcolm Brown*, Jordan Phillips*, Carl Davis. I don't think DT is a must, but if the right value is there, the chance to draft VW's successor might come this year.

I think Wilfork has played well enough that it's going to make it hard for the Pats to cut him.

Right now going into the draft I would not be surprised to see a safety taken with our first pick. It is by far the thinnest area of our D without a true backup. After Chung and McCourty you don't have much. Maybe Harmon and Wilson are better than I think but IDK. I just know everywhere else you have at least 1 quality backup for sure.

I don't see a safety target worth taking in the 1st. Maybe Landon Collins, but I'm not that impressed, and he will likely go higher. Late 3rd/4th round is a different matter.
 
Personally, I wouldn't cut Wilfork in any scenario that assumes significant contributions from Branch. He's played well this season, but he also completely let the Bills down after that extension. That scares me. I can't help but think about how Haynesworth came in and had that "honeymoon period" where he played fairly well and then was laying on the ground in the red zone a few weeks later.
 
Nice to see a dominant defensive effort against SD yesterday. 7 points allowed, 216 total yards allowed, 53 yards rushing (3.1 average), 4 sacks, 7 QB hits, 1 INT, 4-13 3rd down conversion rate and 0-1 on 4th down. Dominating performance, without Chandler Jones or Dont'a Hightower. And a pick-6 negated by a questionable penalty call would have made it even more lopsided. It was comparable to the dominance put up by the Seahawks.

The Pats got stellar play from Jamie Collins, who had 2 sacks and was all over the field while wearing the green dot and coordinating a defensive masterpiece. They got shutdown play from Darrelle Revis, who made Keenan Allen a complete non-factor. They also got 54 out of 56 snaps played plus an INT from Akeem Ayers, and 50 out of 56 snaps played from Jonathan Casillas.

The Pats' stable of versatile guys who can play in space or on the line is just absurd. Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, Jamie Collins, Rob Ninkovich, Akeem Ayers.

Keeping Ayers and Casillas, along with Alan Branch and Pat Chung, should be a priority along with extending Revis and McCourty. And if that happens, add 1 more DE/LB who can play in space or on the line and a long term successor to Wilfork and the D should be sitting pretty.

Dante Fowler, Bud Dupree, Bernardrick McKinney, Danielle Hunter and maybe Shilique Calhoun all would seem to have the skill sets to fit perfectly. Not yet sure if Owamagbe Odighizuwa can play in space enough or where he fits, but very interested to see. Not quite sure about Shawn Oakman and DeForest Buckner, but still intrigued.

Following up on this, if all the key players are re-signed, I'd probably look to only add 3 players on defense: an edge player (DE/LB hybrid), an interior player (long term Wilfork replacement, or DT/DE hybrid), and a DB (safety competition for Harmon/Wilson, or CB competition for Dennard/Ryan/Butler). That's not to say that I couldn't see more if the values present themselves, but it would be a pure case of the value being too great to pass up.

I'd see the defensive roster looking something like this:

1. Interior player - Vince Wilfork
2. Interior player - Alan Branch
3. Interior player - Sealver Siliga
4. Interior player or inside/outside hybrid - rookie
5. Inside/outside hybrid - Dominique Easley
6. Inside/outside hybrid - Chris Jones
7. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Chandler Jones
8. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Rob Ninkovich
9. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Dont'a Hightower (can also play MLB)
10. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Jamie Collins (can also play MLB)
11. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Akeem Ayers
12. EDGE (DE/OLB) - rookie
13. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Zach Moore (? not sure if he fits better here or as an inside.outside hybrid)
14. EDGE (DE/OLB) - Michael Buchanan
15. LB Jerod Mayo
16. LB Jonathan Casillas
17. S - Devin McCourty
18. S - Pat Chung
19. S/ST - Nate Ebner
20. S - Tavon Wilson
21. S - Duron harmon
22. S - rookie
23. CB - Darrelle Revis
24. CB - Brandon Browner
25. CB - Kyle Arrington
26. CB - Alfonzo Denanrd
27. CB - Logan Ryan
28. CB - Malcolm Butler

Competition/injuries would eliminate 1 S and 1 DE/OLB spot. Beyond that would be final cutdown decisions.

I would expect that squad to be one of the top 5 defenses in the NFL, along with Seattle and probably St. Louis, Arizona and KC.
 


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