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I thought it was shaughnessy who always referred to Kraft as Robert "thanks Myra" Kraft . Not to nitpick but are you sure it was barnicle?

My recollection was Shaughnessy referred to Myra Kraft several times as "the better half." I got the impression he had a lot of respect and love for Myra. People may be getting it mixed up with his reference to Paul Gaston, former Celtic owner and son of Don Gaston, as "Thanks Dad."
 
My recollection was Shaughnessy referred to Myra Kraft several times as "the better half." I got the impression he had a lot of respect and love for Myra. People may be getting it mixed up with his reference to Paul Gaston, former Celtic owner and son of Don Gaston, as "Thanks Dad."
I don't mean to argue, again, but I'm not confusing this situation with any references to the Celtic owner. For years someone in the globe referred to Bob Kraft as Bob "thanks Myra" Kraft" I am 99.9% sure it was Shaughnessy. This was before Tom Brady and BB came along. I can't speak to Shaughnessy's feelings about Myra, but it was clearly done to belittle Bob.
 
On one hand, it does seem a little petty that they get better chairs than everyone else in their suite. Why not have them all the same height?

On the other hand, it's their team, their stadium, and their luxury suite. I can't get too worked up if they want to have the best seats in there. As a comparison, I recall some guest pointing out that David Letterman's chair is set up to be higher than the guest's seats. When it's your show, you get some privileges.

I think they're up higher because the person next to them is in the row in front of them. They aren't sitting on a perch, just in a higher row.
 
McDonough was a real ****heel. Compared to him, every single media guy in Boston working the Pats currently is agenda free.

I thought I was the only one around this area who didn't worship that Dave Egan-like POS. He used to get lauded by anyone and everyone and I just never, ever got it.
 
I thought I was the only one around this area who didn't worship that Dave Egan-like POS. He used to get lauded by anyone and everyone and I just never, ever got it.

Didn't McDonough get in a fight (and won) vs Raymond Clayborn?
 
Major, all-day pissing contest going on between Shank and WEEI, Thornton et all. Entertaining as hell.
 
I think they're up higher because the person next to them is in the row in front of them. They aren't sitting on a perch, just in a higher row.

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Kraft inviting Ron Borges (and to a lesser extent, Jim Donaldson and Kevin Mannix) - while at the very same time not inviting CHB - may be the ultimate slam and figurative middle finger a sports owner has ever given to a member of the local media.
 
I thought it was shaughnessy who always referred to Kraft as Robert "thanks Myra" Kraft . Not to nitpick but are you sure it was barnicle?

Whoever it was, I don't remember it (but I still lived in NYC at the time), and it wasn't funny. Thanksdad for Paul Gaston was funny; any echo of it was just stupid.

Yes, I just complimented the CHB for being funny. But I've always said that the Globe guys, including CHB and Borges, could flat-out write; that's how they kept their jobs despite myriad other defects.
 
In my opinion - Shaughnessy / Mike Adams / Squeaky Macaroni are all baseball guys with emotional connections to the Red Sox. They play rebels when analyzing the Sox, but deep inside they are fanboys and they would be lying if they said they preferred football and the Patriots over baseball and the Red Sox.

Since they are without a doubt baseball first guys and baseball is their true passion they don't have that deep gut connection to the Patriots that most regulars on this board do. For this reason they can pretend to be objective when covering "all sports" while focussing more on slamming the sport and team that has taken over in popularity against their beloved Sox.

Shaughnessy and 98.5's Squeaky are major dooo baggies and will slam the Pats any chance they can. Hard to not like Mikey A . He just loves baseball (and nothing really wrong with that), but supports the Patriots as much as a non football guy can.

*Note: If I am a bit wired at the end of the day and unable to sleep, I will tune into the Red Sox for a half inning or so. To me this is far more effective than no-dose.
 
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Shank is an equal opportunity *****le. He hammers everyone pretty equally. He disrespects the Red Sox ownership just as badly as he does the Krafts, which is saying something. He trashes John Henry in particular and knows that he can get away with it without fear of retribution because if Henry, as his boss, ever attempted to administer payback, Shank knows that Henry would be eviscerated in the court of public opinion and he (Shank) would be viewed as the victim. He's in a no-lose situation and he knows it. He's just a miserable, petty little man.
 
Shank stirs up sh*t because it is easier than trying to acertain the facts and analyze them before drawing a conclusion from them. His doucheyness is a convenience for his laziness.

A word about "ThanksMyra," responding to the previous posts. I think if you go back to that 1997 post-Parcells period, you will discover that it was Barnicle who started that with Kraft at the Globe, and that Shank, with his typical lack of originality, took it as his own for a while. I think it is correct that this was a play on "ThanksDad" applied to Paul Gaston, as someone else here mentioned, but "ThanksDad" was something that Barnicle had used himself previously in reference to others, and which he likely "borrowed" from Jimmy Breslin or Mike Royko, as was his tendency.

McDonough, for the record, was a native of Medford, not Southie. As with Mike Barnicle, Will was a Southie wannabe (Barnicle grew up in Lunenburg, if my memory is correct, it was somewhere out there and nowhere near the mean streets Mike ans Will so wanted their readers to think was their childhood home). It's not impossible that McDonough was friendly with serial killer and child molester Bulger, but it's more likely thst it was a put on; Will was a tough nut in the true sense of both words but loved to intimidate people and wasn't shy with the B.S. to do so. The Clayborn story is a good case; if it was true that Will kicked butt there, then why did he sue the Sullivan's for injuries he sustained (loom that one up, you won't find it in the Globe but it did happen).
 
Wow...that's kinda embarrassing. ...

It wasn't a fight. Reporters were crowding aroun clayborn's area and he got up and accidentally poked mcDonough in the eye. McDonough sucker punched him (depending on how you look at it) and Clayborn didn't retaliate. Clayborn later apologized to Mrs. McDonough and she thought the world of him for it.

Got mad, accidentally poked him in the eye while pointing, got hit. Not really a fight.

Of course after mcDonough made the rounds of half the bars in southie, it became Frazier, Ali and Hagler, Hearns all rolled into one.:rolleyes:
 
Shank stirs up sh*t because it is easier than trying to acertain the facts and analyze them before drawing a conclusion from them. His doucheyness is a convenience for his laziness.

A word about "ThanksMyra," responding to the previous posts. I think if you go back to that 1997 post-Parcells period, you will discover that it was Barnicle who started that with Kraft at the Globe, and that Shank, with his typical lack of originality, took it as his own for a while. I think it is correct that this was a play on "ThanksDad" applied to Paul Gaston, as someone else here mentioned, but "ThanksDad" was something that Barnicle had used himself previously in reference to others, and which he likely "borrowed" from Jimmy Breslin or Mike Royko, as was his tendency.

McDonough, for the record, was a native of Medford, not Southie. As with Mike Barnicle, Will was a Southie wannabe (Barnicle grew up in Lunenburg, if my memory is correct, it was somewhere out there and nowhere near the mean streets Mike ans Will so wanted their readers to think was their childhood home). It's not impossible that McDonough was friendly with serial killer and child molester Bulger, but it's more likely thst it was a put on; Will was a tough nut in the true sense of both words but loved to intimidate people and wasn't shy with the B.S. to do so. The Clayborn story is a good case; if it was true that Will kicked butt there, then why did he sue the Sullivan's for injuries he sustained (loom that one up, you won't find it in the Globe but it did happen).

Don't know where you got your information, but McDonough was best friend's with Whitey since they grew up in the projects there and he defended him to the end.

Nobody stays in working class neighborhoods after they make money, he was definitely from Southie. Ran Billy Bulger's first campaign.
 
Will McDonough was of Boston, make no mistake. His world view screened out shades of gray; he saw things as right or wrong, a sense derived from his growing-up days in the Old Colony Project (and St. Augustine's Parish) in South Boston, a tribal whirl of street-corner life and sports. Born in July 1935, he kept an oar in the waters of his native neighborhood all his life despite his move to Hingham early in his Globe career. Few knew better than he the whos, whats, wheres, whys, and hows of life in South Boston from the 1940s to the present. He was an acquaintance of numerous celebrated - and infamous - sons of ''Southie'' and to his last day supported in words and deed those whom he called friends. And these friends returned the favor when Reporter McDonough called on them to help with a story.

http://www.boston.com/sports/specials/mcdonough/mcdonough_obit/
 
Don't know where you got your information, but McDonough was best friend's with Whitey since they grew up in the projects there and he defended him to the end.

Nobody stays in working class neighborhoods after they make money, he was definitely from Southie. Ran Billy Bulger's first campaign.

Will McDonough was of Boston, make no mistake. His world view screened out shades of gray; he saw things as right or wrong, a sense derived from his growing-up days in the Old Colony Project (and St. Augustine's Parish) in South Boston, a tribal whirl of street-corner life and sports. Born in July 1935, he kept an oar in the waters of his native neighborhood all his life despite his move to Hingham early in his Globe career. Few knew better than he the whos, whats, wheres, whys, and hows of life in South Boston from the 1940s to the present. He was an acquaintance of numerous celebrated - and infamous - sons of ''Southie'' and to his last day supported in words and deed those whom he called friends. And these friends returned the favor when Reporter McDonough called on them to help with a story.

http://www.boston.com/sports/specials/mcdonough/mcdonough_obit/

OK, thanks for setting me straight guys, my bad, I got it wrong on McDonough. He was an actual friend of the child molesting serial killer and not a wannabe like Barnicle. Don't know why I got confused on that one, but anyway, sorry for my misinformation everyone and thanks Joker and RayClay for getting it right.
 
OK, thanks for setting me straight guys, my bad, I got it wrong on McDonough. He was an actual friend of the child molesting serial killer and not a wannabe like Barnicle. Don't know why I got confused on that one, but anyway, sorry for my misinformation everyone and thanks Joker and RayClay for getting it right.

Confused him with Barnicle who used to pump some southie police sergeant for all his stories. think he lived in the mean streets of Lincoln if i recall.
 
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