Monday Night Football Debacle: Phins at Jests

Deus Irae said:

None of that means that Springsteen saved rock, pop, country, rap, women's hosiery or the designated hitter. The initial claim was idiotic.

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Joker said:

That's all I was saying to start with. I can just as easily say the Eagles and Joe Walsh saved rock music.The fact is, within the genre there are any number of subsets.I can say the Ramones saved rock music. I can say Ozzy saved rock music...Pink Floyd...Metallica. I can say Alien Sex Fiend or Guns and Roses or jeezus krist, Aerosmith, saved rock music. Doesn't make me right...makes me an obvious fanboy sycophant.

I will now end this farce with the Steenbot.The issue is a moebius strip.

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MNF said:

Is that all you were saying?.........oh ok...........it wasn't clear from you random ramblings of insults............But I understand you old folk can easily get lost in your thoughts and become frustrated - before you know it everything is just gibberish.

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Tunescribe said:

YOU are the one talking gibberish. Don't be surprised when it's perceived as such.

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MNF said:

cute.......you're coming to Joker's defense. I'm now getting bombarded - It's a gang of geriatrics.

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Tunescribe said:

Actually, that made me laugh. I don't know how old you are and you don't know how old I am, but I can tell you I'm younger than Bruce Springsteen. The point is that claiming anyone "saved" rock 'n' roll is ridiculous. There were millions of rock bands before, during and after Bruce, many of them quite influential, more talented, and sharing his everyman working class thematic ethos. What Springsteen brought to the table wasn't new or revelatory by any stretch of the imagination. But he did it well enough to appeal to a large demographic pre-Internet when "the next big thing" could gain mainstream traction as legit phenomena. His popularity is indisputable, and he has made (continues to make) good music. But there is no way he could or should be considered the "savior" of such a wide-ranging music genre that didn't require "saving" to begin with. For evidence of that, just check out who his contemporaries were and what was happening musically when Bruce first popped in the mid-'70s. Context tells you a lot. (And you might want to thank the "gang of geriatrics" for "saving" you from further embarrassment.)

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MNF said:

I'll apologies for the "geriatrics" comment towards you. This is something with Joker.

Read my post to Deus. "Bruce saved rock" is commonly reiterated to acknowledge his contribution. I'm actually surprised that a group of people that seem to know rock history have never heard that statement. A quick google search can verify. Sample quotes in the post above.

As I said and will repeat......It should NOT be taken literally. It is just a complement and acknowledgement to his significant contribution - as further acknowledged in Rolling Stone magazine. They ranked him in the top 25 most influential musicians in history.

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MNF said:

I'll apologies for the "geriatrics" comment towards you. This is something with Joker.

Read my post to Deus. "Bruce saved rock" is commonly reiterated to acknowledge his contribution. I'm actually surprised that a group of people that seem to know rock history have never heard that statement. A quick google search can verify. Sample quotes in the post above.

As I said and will repeat......It should NOT be taken literally. It is just a complement and acknowledgement to his significant contribution - as further acknowledged in Rolling Stone magazine. They ranked him in the top 25 most influential musicians in history.

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kennyb said:

Springsteen is a limosine liberal, he's for open borders even while he sings about the plight of the "working man"...way to help the working man, make them compete with tens of millions of illegals willing to work for peanuts.

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PatsFanSince74 said:

Lots of good news for the Pats from last night's "game."

1) The Dolphins had to struggle to beat the Jets.
2) The Jets couldn't beat the Dolphins on their home turf on Monday night.
3) The Jets are committed to finishing the season with Geno "Pick-em" Smith.

Makes me feel a little better about two of our remaining four games.

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Deus Irae said:

If you acknowledge that it should not be taken literally, you acknowledge that the people here were correct and you were being a troll, or worse.

Nicely done.

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kennyb said:

Springsteen is a limosine liberal, he's for open borders even while he sings about the plight of the "working man"...way to help the working man, make them compete with tens of millions of illegals willing to work for peanuts.

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Tunescribe said:

You are right to acknowledge that "Bruce saved rock" is meaningless hyperbole. Equally meaningless are magazine rankings of the sort you cited. They are more about marketing the publication, as quantifying artistic "influence" cannot be objectively achieved. Springsteen's work certainly can be viewed objectively in terms of structure, virtuosity, lyrical heft, etc. and on balance he has scored high marks critically. His mainstream popularity is without question. The bottom line, as with any artist, is how much he resonates with you personally.

By the way, you really should apologize to Joker for calling him a geriatric.

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MNF said:

I used a phrase that has been used many times by others when referencing Springsteen and his contribution to music. And I meant it in that context. I didn't think you would take it so personal as to refer to me as idiotic or a troll. But I'll leave it to you how important this is to you.

Let me explain other truths to your 8-year old brain:

M. Lynch doesn't actually have a switch that turns him into a Beast
Calvin Johnson isn't actually "Megatron" the transformer
Edelman isn't actually a mini transformer

Glad to help out.

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