What difference does it make if it's '07,'11 or '14?

English Patriot · Nov 30, 2014

They couldn't touch Eli in 2007 or 2011 and that will be the case if they make it in 2014. Even if Chandler comes back 100% is it enough to get over the hump? How many more years is there going to be a sub par pass rush at key times?

It's all well and good getting to crap QB's like Geno and EJ Manuel but our pass rush doesn't work against the ones with pocket presence, mobility and awareness.

When it mattered most Brady needed just a bit more time (just like in the 2 SB losses) but they got to him and when we needed to get to Rodgers on that completion to Cobb, surprise, surprise we COULDN'T.

That pressure Seattle put on Peyton was LETHAL and it is pretty much how you beat an elite QB in a SB and that's what the Pats should be aiming for.

DaBronxPats14 · Nov 30, 2014

I Hear Ya! Hopefully if we do meet GB again SB we will have a healthy Chandler Jones and was greatly missed today.

Onedaful · Nov 30, 2014

Our pass rush was disturbingly bad. Hopefully Jones will change that but if not, not sure what's going to happen

fnordcircle · Nov 30, 2014

Yeah when Rodgers is standing in the pocket like a statue then the comparison with the pressure on Peyton in the SB would even start making sense.

It's like you people complaining about the lack of pressure didn't watch the 2nd half or something. We held them to 3 because we started focusing on containing Rodgers and it worked.

Patradomous · Nov 30, 2014

Pats are a better team.
The play calling was horrendous. Brady made some piss poor decisions.
Why go for the td with 3.50 left in the game on 2nd and 9.

English Patriot · Nov 30, 2014

fnordcircle said:
Yeah when Rodgers is standing in the pocket like a statue then the comparison with the pressure on Peyton in the SB would even start making sense.

It's like you people complaining about the lack of pressure didn't watch the 2nd half or something. We held them to 3 because we started focusing on containing Rodgers and it worked.

No that was just good secondary play, we saw one one play where literally the longest amount of time a QB has had to throw in NFL history and the back end held up enough to get the stop not the pass rush.

English Patriot · Nov 30, 2014

Patradomous said:
Pats are a better team.
The play calling was horrendous. Brady made some piss poor decisions.
Why go for the td with 3.50 left in the game on 2nd and 9.

Gronk HAD IT, he just got unlucky when he hit the ground and probably interfered and that's why we didn't win it

Foxypats · Nov 30, 2014

If we do meet GB again in the SB, i have alot of faith in them.....the second time round, GB won't be so lucky....

rochrist · Nov 30, 2014

English Patriot said:
They couldn't touch Eli in 2007 or 2011 and that will be the case if they make it in 2014. Even if Chandler comes back 100% is it enough to get over the hump? How many more years is there going to be a sub par pass rush at key times?

It's all well and good getting to crap QB's like Geno and EJ Manuel but our pass rush doesn't work against the ones with pocket presence, mobility and awareness.

When it mattered most Brady needed just a bit more time (just like in the 2 SB losses) but they got to him and when we needed to get to Rodgers on that completion to Cobb, surprise, surprise we COULDN'T.

That pressure Seattle put on Peyton was LETHAL and it is pretty much how you beat an elite QB in a SB and that's what the Pats should be aiming for.

Pretty sure the Pats had 3 sacks today to 1 for GB, Negative Nellie.

pwes · Nov 30, 2014

English Patriot said:
Gronk HAD IT, he just got unlucky when he hit the ground and probably interfered and that's why we didn't win it

It was still too much time for Rodgers even if he had gotten the TD.

English Patriot · Nov 30, 2014

rochrist said:
Pretty sure the Pats had 3 sacks today to 1 for GB, Negative Nellie.

Like i say, all sacks when they don't count that much just like in the SB's where they can't get to the crap Manning from completing long bombs.

The sack that mattered the most is the one GB got on Brady at the end, the one we couldn't get was the one we needed for the ball back to possibly win it

Foxypats · Nov 30, 2014

biggest issue was that they did not run it enough right from the begining.

Joey007 · Nov 30, 2014

fnordcircle said:
Yeah when Rodgers is standing in the pocket like a statue then the comparison with the pressure on Peyton in the SB would even start making sense.

It's like you people complaining about the lack of pressure didn't watch the 2nd half or something. We held them to 3 because we started focusing on containing Rodgers and it worked.

Agreed. Offense just couldn't finish the job in the second half.

rochrist · Nov 30, 2014

English Patriot said:
Like i say, all sacks when they don't count that much just like in the SB's where they can't get to the crap Manning from completing long bombs.

The sack that mattered the most is the one GB got on Brady at the end, the one we couldn't get was the one we needed for the ball back to possibly win it

Of course they counted. For all you know, GB might have had more than a one score lead at the end without them. I suppose Iapatsfan will be back now too.

SeymourTrophies · Nov 30, 2014

fnordcircle said:
Yeah when Rodgers is standing in the pocket like a statue then the comparison with the pressure on Peyton in the SB would even start making sense.

It's like you people complaining about the lack of pressure didn't watch the 2nd half or something. We held them to 3 because we started focusing on containing Rodgers and it worked.

I think the Pats got a raw deal on reffing and a few unlucky bounces, but the Pack moved the ball at will. Could've been worse without a missed field goal and that WR letting a perfect pass bounce off his hands on the goal line.

Anyone have any doubt that GB get into field goal range (or further) if Gronk does make that td catch?

Still doesn't mean much in the grand scheme. The defense has been good against good offenses all season. Sometimes, a good offense is productive at home.

Rob0729 · Nov 30, 2014

Right or wrong, the Pats were playing contain for most of the game. The goal of the pass rush was to keep Rodgers in the pocket, not go all out to get him.

The Pats did a very good job pressuring Manning and Luck this year. Because that was the game plan. Today's game plan was to keep Rodgers from running out of the pocket and killing the Pats that way. They didn't do a great job of that in the first half, but that was the strategy.

libra957 · Nov 30, 2014

That TD before the half killed us, i didn't like our coverage, i'm thinking the worst that could happen is a field goal we may have been too aggressive with man to man on that play and got burn badly. In the 4th even if gronk made that TD catch is still think Rodgers march right down the field and score with ease. If we play the packs again the best game plan is keep away,with a lot of running game, i like the way Blount punished their D.

Bertil · Nov 30, 2014

I feel like I'm watching a movie that I've seen before a thousand times, and never liked much to begin with.

A man named Brady · Nov 30, 2014

We can actually cover now. The 2010-2013 Secondaries would've given up 500 passing yards and 45 points in this game

SeymourTrophies · Nov 30, 2014

A man named Brady said:
We can actually cover now. The 2010-2013 Secondaries would've given up 500 passing yards and 45 points in this game

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