Bedard Pats/Colts Film Review

Mazz gave the game ball to the entire O-line. Didn't single out anyone.

Probably because he doesn't know their names.

Three ups:

1. Jonas Gray - Didn't have one bad decision for him. Thought there was one watching live, but wrong.

2. Gronk - Best all around game from him since before he got hurt. Felt run blocking was overrated by a lot because he had easy assignment going up against Sergio Brown.

3. Rob Ninkovich - Disruptive.

Revis, Hightower, Solder honorable mentioned

Three Downs:

1. Tyms - Only three routes

2. Browner - Didn't give up as many as people think because they were in zone a lot and people blamed him for things not his fault, but he counted him giving up four big plays

3. Brady - Can't go out there and be half terrible and half great and not be called out.

Archeryaddict12 said:

And I agree. His arm appears weaker but he is still super accurate. But I don't think he has much time left in the nfl.

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I don't know if he is super accurate. He threw a lot of short passes on Sunday and his deeper balls float which gives his receiver time to get under it. I think he is usually a great decision maker, but I question his accuracy.

reflexblue said:

bedard on grey. last year blount did the same thing to the colts so at first he thought grey was just a plug in, that they have the colts number when it comes to running on them. but after watching coaches tapes thinks there is something to work with. grey is quick, powerfull, and has good vision

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Can I take a moment for a gratuitous self-pat on the back due to my saying even after the Denver game that I thought the kid looked like a future starter? Even when he was going nowhere two weeks ago, I really liked how Gray ran.

Yes, I know that pat on the back will become a slap in the face if he carries 4 times for 9 yards next week, but I'll take small victories when I can.

Rob0729 said:

I don't know if he is super accurate. He threw a lot of short passes on Sunday and his deeper balls float which gives his receiver time to get under it. I think he is usually a great decision maker, but I question his accuracy.

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I think his strength is his timing and accuracy. But the ducks could very well help receivers get under the ball. But manning doesn't have the arm to threaten deep that often.

Patsattax said:

This was the part that stuck out to meso far. Seemed to think they have something and it wasn't just having the colts number whoever was in there.

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I thought that was pretty obvious from just watching the game on TV. The first half, he was running through enormous holes---that didn't tell me much. But the second half the Dolts were devoting more resources to the run and he was consistently getting tough yards through contact. He runs low and hard. He is the opposite of Blount (runs high and soft) who tricked people on this site with a few fluky runs (although Blount does have long speed that Gray may not have).

Archeryaddict12 said:

I think his strength is his timing and accuracy. But the ducks could very well help receivers get under the ball. But manning doesn't have the arm to threaten deep that often.

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I agree with his timing and maybe accuracy on shorter passes. I don't know if he is just accurate of he just throws it to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be and the receivers make the adjustment on the ball.

Oswlek said:

Can I take a moment for a gratuitous self-pat on the back due to my saying even after the Denver game that I thought the kid looked like a future starter? Even when he was going nowhere two weeks ago, I really liked how Gray ran.

Yes, I know that pat on the back will become a slap in the face if he carries 4 times for 9 yards next week, but I'll take small victories when I can.

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i thought he looked good in TC, (just saying) but lets not put him in canton just yet

Wow, one thing I actually agree with them about. Goodell has to go.

reflexblue said:

i thought he looked good in TC, (just saying) but lets not put him in canton just yet

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Yeah, though FWIW by "starter" I just meant that he could be another Benny, not Curtis Martin.

Felger does this every week to Bedard. He's such a douche to Bedard...................EVERY WEEK

AzorianPats said:

There's some serious tension going on it feels between Felger and Bedard.

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AzorianPats said:

There's some serious tension going on it feels between Felger and Bedard.

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Bedard should be on with G&Z. The back-and-forth would be vastly superior.

Archeryaddict12 said:

The 2 ints were a direct result of the pressure Tom was feeling. Tom could have stayed out and delivered both, but he also could of been done for that game, or many more games to come because he would have been crushed by the d linemen. I remember watching both plays, the duress Tom felt was the direct cause of the ints, it isn't even debatable.

Now Tom made a bad decision on the second int because of the pressure. Just a rare TFB brain fart.

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3rd and 1 from your OWN 17 with 1:25 to go in the half?

When your running game is demolishing the Colts?

Just throwing it in that situation was a mistake. I don't care if Gronk was open. Dialing up that play at that moment was horrible game management. They were up 14-3 and getting the ball at the beginning of the 2nd half.

I was apoplectic when that happened.

shmessy said:

3rd and 1 from your own 17 with 2 minutes to go in the half?

When your running game is demolishing the Colts?

Just throwing it in that situation was a mistake. I was apoplectic when that happened.

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Yep. Even before the INT it was clear that not allowing the Colts to score was more important than us scoring (up 11, getting the ball to start the 3rd qtr). Run the ball, get the first down - if you fail keep the clock moving or make them use a timeout. If we'd gotten the 1st down then get more aggressive.

shmessy said:

3rd and 1 from your own 17 with 2 minutes to go in the half?

When your running game is demolishing the Colts?

Just throwing it in that situation was a mistake. I don't care if Gronk was open. Dialing up that play at that moment was horrible game management. They were up 14-3 and getting the ball at the beginning of the 2nd half.

I was apoplectic when that happened.

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The play call was fine. The problem was that the OL didn't do its job, and Brady didn't throw it away after seeing that. If the line had done its job, that was going to be either a big gain or a TD.

BelichickFan said:

Yep. Even before the INT it was clear that not allowing the Colts to score was more important than us scoring (up 11, getting the ball to start the 3rd qtr). Run the ball, get the first down - if you fail keep the clock moving or make them use a timeout. If we'd gotten the 1st down then get more aggressive.

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True - but if that play was executed, we're up 18 - getting the ball to start the 2nd half, that's almost game over. That was a TD if it connects. I actually had no issue with the call - at worst that should've led to a punt, but Brady goofed.

BelichickFan said:

Yep. Even before the INT it was clear that not allowing the Colts to score was more important than us scoring (up 11, getting the ball to start the 3rd qtr). Run the ball, get the first down - if you fail keep the clock moving or make them use a timeout. If we'd gotten the 1st down then get more aggressive.

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I have to agree here. The upside - an extra 7 points in a game you were dominating and had possession to start the next half - wasn't nearly worth the downside. At that point, the only way for Indy to get back in the game was pretty much what happened. I would have been perfectly content with a likely 17-3 or 21-3 lead a few minutes into the third quarter and I suspect Bill felt the same way.

He was also pissed in the morning toucher and rich show about AP. He said he invents things out of thin air and has lost credibility all over. rodge need to go now !

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Oswlek said:

I have to agree here. The upside - an extra 7 points in a game you were dominating and had possession to start the next half - wasn't nearly worth the downside. At that point, the only way for Indy to get back in the game was pretty much what happened. I would have been perfectly content with a likely 17-3 or 21-3 lead a few minutes into the third quarter and I suspect Bill felt the same way.

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Exactly. 1:25 to go in the half, on your own 17 yard line? 3rd and 1. In a game where their DL couldn't stop the run.

Bad game management. Itmade the game closer than it should have been at the half.

Good thing BB reamed McDaniels/Brady out at the half for that.

shmessy said:

3rd and 1 from your OWN 17 with 1:25 to go in the half?

When your running game is demolishing the Colts?

Just throwing it in that situation was a mistake. I don't care if Gronk was open. Dialing up that play at that moment was horrible game management. They were up 14-3 and getting the ball at the beginning of the 2nd half.

I was apoplectic when that happened.

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Disagree --- I immediately thought of the 99 yard touchdown to Welker in 2011 against Miami. The Patriots hit that play, and the game is effectively over as the safeties cannot honor the threat of the run by getting into the box anymore. Gronk was open and he was going to be good for at least forty or fifty yards including the last 15 giving someone a piggyback ride.



Now the Pats did not hit on the play, but the concept and intent of the play was valid in my mind. There is always a big difference between evaluating the outcome of a play and the design/intent of a play. Outcome sucked, intent and the thought process behind the play was aggressive but not absurdly so.