Since Belichick took over the Pats.. He's dominated the NFL

Since Belichick took over the Pats, only 1 team, the Giants (2-3) , have a winning record against the Pats.
4 teams have never beaten the Belichick led Pats. Those teams are Atlanta, Jacksonville, Philly, and Dallas.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...just-living/iVJEwIMT8yb9tSEg8fx6lM/story.html

DaBruinz said:

Since Belichick took over the Pats, only 1 team, the Giants (2-3) , have a winning record against the Pats.
4 teams have never beaten the Belichick led Pats. Those teams are Atlanta, Jacksonville, Philly, and Dallas.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...just-living/iVJEwIMT8yb9tSEg8fx6lM/story.html

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The perfect rebuttal to those that criticise Bill the GM. There's no way you achieve that level of dominance without being an outstanding GM.

Just to be clear the Patriots are 2-3 against the Giants, not vice-versa. (only half clear in the top post)

As I sensed neither the Jets nor the Dolphins have proportionately bad records vs the Pats... the Jets 10-21 and the Phins 10-19. Denver is 8-9 which makes them the best team vs BB if you skip past the Giants and the playoffs.

An amazing feat for BB. If he continues like this he may be too good even for the Hall of Fame.

He dominates in all three phases:

coaching...

general manager...













...and fashion.

manxman2601 said:

The perfect rebuttal to those that criticise Bill the GM. There's no way you achieve that level of dominance without being an outstanding GM.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, I don't think I can give him a 10, but I don't think I can give him anything less than an 8, either.

oldrover said:

He dominates in all three phases:

coaching...

general manager...

...and fashion.

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You joke, but, believe it or not, stuff he wears actually sells.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/19/bill-belichick-fashion-icon/

oh yeah ... .well, what about spygate?

(Sarcasm ^^^^)

ctpatsfan77 said:

On a scale of 1 to 10, I don't think I can give him a 10, but I don't think I can give him anything less than an 8, either.

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I would give a 10 to Belichick in relation to other coaches in the league. I would give a 9 considered an A average for individual performance as Coach and GM. If I wanted to nit pick I could argue an 8 for his Drafting.

There is no doubt that his defensive game plans and preparation are legendary.

His use of the Perkins/airhead offense and situational football perfectly suited to what Brady does best, read defenses and make great decisions.

His ability to find players to execute in all three areas really amazing in this day and age.

ctpatsfan77 said:

On a scale of 1 to 10, I don't think I can give him a 10, but I don't think I can give him anything less than an 8, either.

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Who is a 10?

Canuck said:

I would give a 10 to Belichick in relation to other coaches in the league. I would give a 9 considered an A average for individual performance as Coach and GM. If I wanted to nit pick I could argue an 8 for his Drafting.

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If I wanted to nit pick, I could argue you pulled those grades out of your ass.

BB the GM has not been perfect. Then again, no GM ever is. But what constitutes a 10? What constitutes a 9? How does this grading system work exactly?

Are we counting every miss as a deduction from a 10? Will Michael Jordan be graded as less than a 5 because he didn't even hit half his shots? Babe Ruth could be a 3.5 since he only hit .342.

What criteria are you using exactly?

Actually, **** that criteria. **** the draft too. As Herm Edwards has said (and I've ranted on before), YOU.PLAY.TO.WIN.THE.GAME.

If the goal is to maximize draft pick value, you sit Brandon LaFell and start Aaron Dobson. You also let Josh Boyce play as many reps as possible to try to salvage that draft pick. You start Cameron Fleming even if he's not ready. You sit proven starters to try to maximize draft pick value just so some schmuck on a message board might give you a 9 or 10 instead of an 8 in drafting.

If your goal is to maximize your draft pick value, you don't bring in veterans to challenge rookies, you give priority to higher draft picks over lower ones, you do everything you can to make sure your picks turn into players.

Who cares about winning when there are draft picks to develop?

I do. BB does. More than anything else. It's what matters. And there are lots of times we have done what is best for the team rather than what is best for the draft pick. I hope that never changes.

convertedpatsfan said:

If I wanted to nit pick, I could argue you pulled those grades out of your ass.

BB the GM has not been perfect. Then again, no GM ever is. But what constitutes a 10? What constitutes a 9? How does this grading system work exactly?

Are we counting every miss as a deduction from a 10? Will Michael Jordan be graded as less than a 5 because he didn't even hit half his shots? Babe Ruth could be a 3.5 since he only hit .342.

What criteria are you using exactly?

Actually, **** that criteria. **** the draft too. As Herm Edwards has said (and I've ranted on before), YOU.PLAY.TO.WIN.THE.GAME.

If the goal is to maximize draft pick value, you sit Brandon LaFell and start Aaron Dobson. You also let Josh Boyce play as many reps as possible to try to salvage that draft pick. You start Cameron Fleming even if he's not ready. You sit proven starters to try to maximize draft pick value just so some schmuck on a message board might give you a 9 or 10 instead of an 8 in drafting.

If your goal is to maximize your draft pick value, you don't bring in veterans to challenge rookies, you give priority to higher draft picks over lower ones, you do everything you can to make sure your picks turn into players.

Who cares about winning when there are draft picks to develop?

I do. BB does. More than anything else. It's what matters. And there are lots of times we have done what is best for the team rather than what is best for the draft pick. I hope that never changes.

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So instead of using numbers or any grading system I'll say what I think about Belichick. I think he is one of the greatest Head Coaches ever and the best HC in the NFL since he took over the Pats. I think he is a very good GM maybe even excellent. There have been a lot of posts about his drafting. I think his record in drafting is as good or better then any other team since he took over but if you want to nit pick about him as GM then drafting is an area where you can argue over.

14 consecutive winning seasons in the NFL post salary cap era, the only team with more consecutive wins were the SF 49'ers(16) 1983-1998.

The way he reinvents himself, recently he thought the plug and play system would work for dbacks, but he was wrong and changed the way he does business....

And all this amidst a petty and negative media, that chastises every move and revels in what could have been...

Read some place about the Boston Press was once atop the Boston Sports world, Gammons et al were the rulers of all things Boston Sports.. then came some very good sports coaches(BB, Francona, Julien, Doc etc.) that refused the BS of the media and the mediots became jealous... thus their need for continual vitriol.

Canuck said:

So instead of using numbers or any grading system I'll say what I think about Belichick. I think he is one of the greatest Head Coaches ever and the best HC in the NFL since he took over the Pats. I think he is a very good GM maybe even excellent. There have been a lot of posts about his drafting. I think his record in drafting is as good or better then any other team since he took over but if you want to nit pick about him as GM then drafting is an area where you can argue over.

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I don't know, maybe he sucks at drafting I was overly harsh towards your post last night, so I apologize for that. But I do think the constant harping on missed draft picks gets ridiculously unrealistic around here. BB would be the first to admit he could do better, but I think many people overlook the fact that we're not in the business of developing draft picks. We're in the business of winning games. If developing picks helps that, fine. But it's not a means to an end.

I think one of the best things about Belichick coming here is that the Jets had him and let him get away. It must gnaw at them to know that they could have been the recipients of his great coaching. Just another reason to thank the Jets.

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I don't know, maybe he sucks at drafting I was overly harsh towards your post last night, so I apologize for that. But I do think the constant harping on missed draft picks gets ridiculously unrealistic around here. BB would be the first to admit he could do better, but I think many people overlook the fact that we're not in the business of developing draft picks. We're in the business of winning games. If developing picks helps that, fine. But it's not a means to an end.

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My problem with the 'Bill the average GM' crowd is that they're flat-out wrong, period. It's been shown time and again that while he misses more often than the average GM he also maneuvers in the draft to add picks and because of that, he hits more often, just on a lower percentage of picks--all while having a starting point in the draft at 30-32 in nearly every draft.

And he's hit some out-of-the-park home runs in the process too, from Gronk to Edelman to Gost to Slater to Samuel. People want instant gratification and star players, but that's not what BB the Coach cares about, he cares about winning football games. He admittedly had some awful DB picks for a stretch of time, but people conveniently forget that during those years he also added Vollmer and Edelman and Mayo and Slater and McCourty and Gronk and Solder and Vereen and Ridley. And that's not even getting into his cap management and smart trades, anyone complaining about the Mankins trade at this point, or having the cap space to bring in Revis and Browner?

BB the GM is just fine, he's proven time and again that his draft strategy, while maddening, leads to success and a deep roster full of players that allow BB the Coach to be otherworldly.