Six Consecutive Losses for the Patriots

On the road against teams with a final winning record. Haven't won one since 2010. Sure, they've beaten teams who have looked good at times, but this stat is meaningful nonetheless. If you factor in that this year's versions of KC and Miami may also finish above .500, it illustrates a major problem (though the Buffalo win was impressive.) This game, not the Denver game, is in my opinion the biggest game of the regular season for the Pats and a chance to finally learn to win in adverse road conditions against playoff teams.

You'll also note that Carolina, Cincinnati, Seattle, and Baltimore were all games that were very winnable and the Patriots were out-executed down the stretch (except Baltimore, a game in which they absolutely should have won, although they still made some mental mistakes.)

2013 (Playoffs)- @ Denver- LOSS
2013 @ Carolina- LOSS
2013 @ Cincinnati- LOSS
2012 @ Seattle- LOSS
2012 @ Baltimore- LOSS
2011 @ Pittsburgh- LOSS

Interesting, though I'm not seeing the relevance to this year's team. Including the Baltimore loss, a game they would have won 40-13 with competent officiating, seems a little misleading.

All but that last road loss we should have won. Kind of concerning but we will see.

Oswlek said:

Interesting, though I'm not seeing the relevance to this year's team. Including the Baltimore loss, a game they would have won 40-13 with competent officiating seems a little misleading.

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In fact, the Baltimore, Carolina games and seattle should have been wins but the refs changed the pace of those games

I think the Patriots may have a Defense this season...

I'm not worried about it. Every season is different, every game is different. That stuff means nothing.

For a moment I thought this was a thread by Iapatsfan predicting the results of the next few games.....

Since 2011 they are 18-11 on the road. Can only play who's on the schedule. I think a lot of teams would like to say they've gone 18-11 on the road the last 3.5 years. Point is taken though. We got some tough ones coming up and need a big win on the road. Indy will be a good test.

Call me crazy, but, unlike the Denver game beforehand, I am 0% worried about Indy.

Winning on the road is TOUGH. Every team has trouble against good teams on the road. The best teams in the league generally win 12-14 games. You lose more often on the road and more often against good teams. It only stands to reason that of those 2-4 losses, the majority will come on the road. Two road losses over 3 seasons is... 6 games. PLUS the playoffs, and this "6 games losing streak" is nothing out of the ordinary. Looking at the best teams since 2012:
Denver:
loss @ ATL
loss @NE
loss @ IN
loss @ NE
loss @ SB to Seahawks
loss @ SEA
loss @ NE

Seatle:
loss @ AR
loss @ STL
loss @ SF
loss @ DET
loss @ MIA
loss @ ATL
loss @ IN
loss @ SF
loss @ SD
loss @ STL

49ers:
loss @ MIN
loss @ STL
loss @ SB to Ravens
loss @SeA
loss @ NO
loss @ SEA
loss @ AZ
loss @ DEN

Ravens 2012:
loss @ HOU
loss @ PHI
loss @ WASH

Show me a team that has had success on the road against good teams...

OhExaulted1 said:

Since 2011 they are 18-11 on the road. Can only play who's on the schedule. I think a lot of teams would like to say they've gone 18-11 on the road the last 3.5 years. Point is taken though. We got some tough ones coming up and need a big win on the road. Indy will be a good test.

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Aren't the pats .500 in their last 12 road games?

Ochmed Jones said:

Aren't the pats .500 in their last 12 road games?

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Yes. And they've also won 14 straight at home... The Broncos last 11: 7-4, Seatle since 2012: 11-10. But they have lost at home. This is why home field is so important for the most part. Sure, some teams like SF and NYG have won out on the road in the playoffs, but that is rare. DEN doesn't go into NE, SEA, etc and win, as such DEN and SEA don't lose at home.
8 home wins + 4 road wins (.500) is still a 12-4 record and usually good enough for homefield.

Ochmed Jones said:

Aren't the pats .500 in their last 12 road games?

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I was just going back to '11 when he started his template. We are (including the playoff loss to Den.) 6-7 on the road if you only include last year and this current season actually. These 3 of the next 4 at IND, SD and GB are going to be quite the gauntlet. I think we have the type of team that can make this run right now. The scariest game to me, believe it or not, is Detroit at home. They have seriously underplayed at there talent level the last couple years. I think Strafford could really become an upper echelon QB, but I curl back when I see his QB coach is Jim Bob Cooter. That's a real name. Jim Caldwell is an absolute polar opposite of Jim Schwartz, which is a plus, I think. This is the trap game to me.

I know we need to get past Indy who's itching to show they can hang with us. BB vs. Luck. I like our chances. SD and Rivers. Not scary. GB, I'm worried with that one. We'll have to win with D and ST's.

But hey, at least we're not Jet fans. Football is still relavent here.

Ochmed Jones said:

Aren't the pats .500 in their last 12 road games?

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Win at home, go .500 on the road. 12-4 average season. Make the playoffs, Rinse and Repeat.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

On the road against teams with a final winning record. Haven't won one since 2010. Sure, they've beaten teams who have looked good at times, but this stat is meaningful nonetheless. If you factor in that this year's versions of KC and Miami may also finish above .500, it illustrates a major problem (though the Buffalo win was impressive.) This game, not the Denver game, is in my opinion the biggest game of the regular season for the Pats and a chance to finally learn to win in adverse road conditions against playoff teams.

You'll also note that Carolina, Cincinnati, Seattle, and Baltimore were all games that were very winnable and the Patriots were out-executed down the stretch (except Baltimore, a game in which they absolutely should have won, although they still made some mental mistakes.)

2013 (Playoffs)- @ Denver- LOSS
2013 @ Carolina- LOSS
2013 @ Cincinnati- LOSS
2012 @ Seattle- LOSS
2012 @ Baltimore- LOSS
2011 @ Pittsburgh- LOSS

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And look at the D in 2011-2013 vs this D. We can shut down teams. Big difference

Sort of relevant to the thread, but I just noticed the Patriots are early 2 point underdogs at Indy next week

Archeryaddict12 said:

In fact, the Baltimore, Carolina games and seattle should have been wins but the refs changed the pace of those games

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I hear you, but those games were close enough that NE had plenty of opportunities to win. It isn't too often that the officials have a 20+ point influence on a game like they did in Baltimore. The officiating was embarrassing in the 2006 AFCCG, and NE may have won comfortably if not for the Brown OPI call, but at least Indy's comeback from that point on was of their own accord.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

On the road against teams with a final winning record. Haven't won one since 2010. Sure, they've beaten teams who have looked good at times, but this stat is meaningful nonetheless. If you factor in that this year's versions of KC and Miami may also finish above .500, it illustrates a major problem (though the Buffalo win was impressive.) This game, not the Denver game, is in my opinion the biggest game of the regular season for the Pats and a chance to finally learn to win in adverse road conditions against playoff teams.

You'll also note that Carolina, Cincinnati, Seattle, and Baltimore were all games that were very winnable and the Patriots were out-executed down the stretch (except Baltimore, a game in which they absolutely should have won, although they still made some mental mistakes.)

2013 (Playoffs)- @ Denver- LOSS
2013 @ Carolina- LOSS
2013 @ Cincinnati- LOSS
2012 @ Seattle- LOSS
2012 @ Baltimore- LOSS
2011 @ Pittsburgh- LOSS

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Or it's a statistical small sample. would we beat KC and Miami the way we're playing now? I think we would.

Outside of fodder for the TV announcers, what does it mean? I don't think the team as it's playing now would lose to such a team because it had a particular string of outcomes in the past.

Which is the best road team in that period regardless of the opponent records?

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

On the road against teams with a final winning record. Haven't won one since 2010. Sure, they've beaten teams who have looked good at times, but this stat is meaningful nonetheless. If you factor in that this year's versions of KC and Miami may also finish above .500, it illustrates a major problem (though the Buffalo win was impressive.) This game, not the Denver game, is in my opinion the biggest game of the regular season for the Pats and a chance to finally learn to win in adverse road conditions against playoff teams.

You'll also note that Carolina, Cincinnati, Seattle, and Baltimore were all games that were very winnable and the Patriots were out-executed down the stretch (except Baltimore, a game in which they absolutely should have won, although they still made some mental mistakes.)

2013 (Playoffs)- @ Denver- LOSS
2013 @ Carolina- LOSS
2013 @ Cincinnati- LOSS
2012 @ Seattle- LOSS
2012 @ Baltimore- LOSS
2011 @ Pittsburgh- LOSS

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2013 (Playoffs)- @ Denver- LOSS - Injury decimated
2013 @ Carolina- LOSS - Screwed by refs
2013 @ Cincinnati- LOSS - Meh
2012 @ Seattle- LOSS - Lost by 1, should of honestly won.
2012 @ Baltimore- LOSS - Lost by replacement refs calling missed FG good.
2011 @ Pittsburgh- LOSS - Fluke

^Truth