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Regarding the moving target - I see what you mean now. I agree. People thought Denver would be in trouble, but they won't. Denver has done a great job maintaining flexibility.

As far as the remaining starters go, here is my angle. In theory, if a team doesn't have enough money to resign it's own starters, it won't have enough money to upgrade on those starters through FA. If they could resign their starters and have money left over, they can get upgrades in FA instead of resigning all their starters. For example, Cowboys had to let ware go and were not able to sign a better (or even comparable) player. An example in the opposite direction: Denver had enough money to resign all their starters and then some last year, so instead they were able to sign the more expensive Talib. That is the importance of having enough mone to resign your starters or not. With more than enough you can get upgrades instead by spending more. Without enough you have to take a downgrade.

With the incentives you mentioned, I think den and ne will have roughly the same amount of extra cap if they were to resign their own players, thus they both will have roughly the same amount of money to spend on upgrades. Does that make sense to you Miguel?

I understand your argument. I just disagree with it. I think that the Broncos will have more cap space in 2015 than the Patriots. Why?
1.) Impact of Incentives
2.) As noted by others your first year numbers are off. That discrepancy affects the Broncos more than it does the Patriots.
3.) Pats have more signing bonus prorations in 2015 than does the Broncos giving the Broncos the flexibility edge.
 
Those contract values in the first year of a contract extension are ridiculous. The vast majority of contracts are heavily back loaded.

We won't know until they come out, but with my estimates I showed both teams to be in a similar situation and that Denver is not screwed. Lowering the first year hits only supports that conclusion. So in the end we agree.

I understand your argument. I just disagree with it. I think that the Broncos will have more cap space in 2015 than the Patriots. Why?
1.) Impact of Incentives
2.) As noted by others your first year numbers are off. That discrepancy affects the Broncos more than it does the Patriots.
3.) Pats have more signing bonus prorations in 2015 than does the Broncos giving the Broncos the flexibility edge.

I wouldn't say we disagree. What I said is qualitatively correct pre incentives and bonuses (roughly the same cap between the two teams - I also went conservative on the Revis restructure so that should counter your point 2 somewhat). Points one and three I agree with you so we are in agreement, Denver does look to have more cap than us.

However we can open up room without hurting the team too much Imo. Restructure Revis, if that gets done Arrington could be gone via trade or release. Will probably keep him if we lose Revis I think. Amendola should be restructured, cut or traded after this season. Mayo and Wilfork are expensive and could be restructure candidates. An extension for Vollmer could lower his cap hit. You've probably written about this topic, I'll search around for it later. Anyway, imagine how this would look with mankins instead of Wright...
 
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