Patriots vs Broncos Week

Brady_to_Moss · Oct 27, 2014

windy windy...22 mph at noon....15-18 or so at kickoff with it being 40 deg...so it will feel in mid lower 30s.

Wonder how mannings duck throws will do in that....

Rob0729 · Oct 27, 2014

PatsBoy12 said:
Rob, I hear you. However, both of the defenses you named are more aggressive than that of the Pats. They are both also good at stopping the run. The Pats have not been able to do that on a consistent basis. It's all relative, I guess. It's going to be a tough game. Do I think the Pats can win? Yes. However, some people are falling victim to the moment. The Donkeys will not come in here and lay down like the Bears.

We will enter the game without our best LB and defensive signal caller. Hightower played well yesterday and you can see the maturity in his game this season. Stopping the run will be a difficult task, I believe. We will enter the game without our best outside rusher. Losing Mayo means NE cannot often use Hightower in this role, as was the case earlier this season where he played well rushing the passer. Ninko is playing well, but we need someone to apply pressure from the other side.

This is a game where Edelman should shine. Talib will likely be lined up on LaFell and/or Gronk. Gronk and Talib going at it is worth the price of admission, though nobody can match a healthy Gronk. Talib is big, strong and physical. We'll see. Denver's D-Line should have played well, especially those bookends.

With all that said, NE can win this game and it should be another epic Brady v Manning matchup.

The Pats have a far better defense than the Jets. The Jets have given up long drives all year and are a horrible pass defense. Yes, their run defense is good, but the Bronocs aren't a run team anyway.

And the Patriots' pass defense has been better than the Seahawks' pass defense thus far. The Pats have a significantly better opposing QB passer rating (86.8 vs. 99.8). They have 5 more INTs than them (granted they played one more game). They opposing QB completion percentage is better (61.0% for the Pats and 67.0% for the Seahawks) and give up less yards per passing play (6.9 vs. 7.2).

Also, the Chiefs shut out the Broncos in the second half.

ThatllMoveTheChains!!! · Oct 27, 2014

PatsBoy12 said:
While I am still very much worried about the Donkeys, I am very concerned about the zebras as well. The Donkeys are very good on both sides of the ball.

PatsBoy12 · Oct 27, 2014

ThatllMoveTheChains!!! said:

Touche

QB12 · Oct 27, 2014

The line is now Denver -3 or -3 1/2. Remind me again, does that mean more money is coming in on the Pats or the Broncos?

FreeTedWilliams · Oct 27, 2014

ArchAngel007 said:
Wonder why? Patriots rarely lose at home with Tom Brady at QB

Denver is bringing the refs with them

SVN · Oct 27, 2014

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/boston/chat/_/id/51284 FWIW

What do you think is the top 2 key match-ups in the upcoming Pats-Broncos game? What is the real game changer??

Tedy
(11:16 AM)

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say Brandon Browner vs. TE Julius Thomas. I know everyone is excited about them bringing Revis in, for this type of game, to match up with Demaryius Thomas. But they also brought in Browner, I believe, for this type of matchup with Julius Thomas. We saw Browner match up with Bears TE Martellus Bennett at times on Sunday, and that could be a preview of the Browner-Julius Thomas matchup when Denver comes to town. And let's see how the offensive line handles their Pot Roast (a.k.a. Terrance Knighton).

Hey Tedy a solid team win yesterday, what do you believe is this teams biggest weakness right now, and what are some possible solutions?

Tedy
(11:06 AM)

Don't get me wrong, it was a great game yesterday. I'm sure for all you fans out there, it was a lot of fun to watch. But this Bears team is average at best, especially on defense. In terms of Patriots weaknesses, I still believe OL issues can possibly still show up in key moments. Also, I still think the run defense is a problem. Those are the two main weaknesses for me. What are the solutions? I don't see a magical solution. Some are thinking of a trade to improve talent, maybe at the linebacker level. But you have to remember how valued draft picks are to this organization.

juny · Oct 27, 2014

SVN said:
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/boston/chat/_/id/51284 FWIW

Glad Bruschi pointed out Knighton, he killed the OL last year in the playoffs. He can't be allowed to blow up the middle. With Miller and Ware on the outside, the OL has their work cut out for them.

patsfan4life · Oct 27, 2014

Already disgusted that we gonna have to listen to the PATS hater Nantz.

obgod3 · Oct 27, 2014

Interesting article, not sure there is much I disagree with.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...s-denver-broncos-clearly-super-bowl-favorites

PATS16N0 · Oct 27, 2014

shmessy said:
Goosebumps. Revis just a few minutes after the Bears game.

Jeff Howe @jeffphowe
Revis: "We’ll probably move on to Denver fast because we want this one. We really do. We’re a team on a mission."

PATS16N0 · Oct 27, 2014

obgod3 said:
Interesting article, not sure there is much I disagree with.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...s-denver-broncos-clearly-super-bowl-favorites

Uh, just that the media calls them the Superbowl favorites every year, just like they often did with the Colts. It never actually translates to anything.

People were saying the same thing (laughably) in 2012, despite Denver losing to most of the play off teams they played, and then again in 2013 when they were completely overrated to anyone who isn't a shallow sensationalist. Oh, wow, look, they're saying it again. Let's take it seriously this time.

obgod3 · Oct 27, 2014

Did you actually read the entire article? Read the content not the hype.

Oswlek · Oct 27, 2014

robertweathers said:
#1 Seed is not in the cards as I fear the schedule is too much of a mountain to conquer. Hope for 11-5/10-6, Chandler Jones healthy in mid-December and favorable match-ups in the playoffs.

10-6 seems far too pessimistic (4-4 the rest of the way?) but I can completely see NE winning this game and still losing the #1 seed to the 13-3 Broncos.

Oswlek · Oct 27, 2014

robertweathers said:
Yep. I want to see this offense with the healthy Gronk for 3 playoff games. It's a bold statement but IMO w/Gronk they win in 2011, 2012 and make it more interesting in the SB vs SEA 2013.

2012 is debatable, but considering they were the better team in 2011 even without him, it is hard to argue that a healthy Gronk wouldn't have led to a championship.

PATS16N0 · Oct 27, 2014

obgod3 said:
Did you actually read the entire article? Read the content not the hype.

Didn't even click the link. You don't think I know what a "Peyton is the Superbowl favorite" article looks like? They didn't start when he went to Denver. I'm sure it's a revised version of last years version, and the version before that.

Denver has never beaten New England with Gronk on the field. We're 2-1 against you since Manning signed with your team, and your one victory came against a badly depleted, Gronkless, injury ravaged New England team whose `key to victory` was going to have to basically be Blount - a RB we didn't re-sign.

Celebrate going to the Superbowl for whatever it was you did there (embarrass yourself) but that game, especially once Talib went down, was a wash as far as being able to read anything into it.

Yeah, you'll be called the favorites, but I don't think you are. You leave the Razor with a loss and Brady-to-Gronk stomps your faces in like it always does.

Despite the anomaly game where Brady's entire supporting cast was on IR, Tom doesn't just beat you, he embarrasses you, and has routinely since the start of Tebowmania.

That's a fact, but you won't read about it at NFL.com or in `THIS year is REALLY the year` Peyton articles.

obgod3 · Oct 27, 2014

Whatever.

BTW Im a Pats fan but not one with blinders on.

Dutchmaster617 · Oct 27, 2014

NE is a 3.5 point underdog, at home that means we are really a 6.5 pt underdog.

I have no clue why, at Gillette Brady has 12 TDs and 1 INT vs DEN. That one INT was in the playoffs 3 years ago when he threw 6 TDs on them. DEN has won here twice in this era, 2005 and 2002.

obgod3 · Oct 27, 2014

Dutchmaster617 said:
NE is a 3.5 point underdog, at home that means we are really a 6.5 pt underdog.

I have no clue why, at Gillette Brady has 12 TDs and 1 INT vs DEN. That one INT was in the playoffs 3 years ago when he threw 6 TDs on them. DEN has won here twice in this era, 2005 and 2002.

Well if you watch or get forced to watch the Broncos like I do it is apparent they are a much better team than last year. They are. Im not surprised by the spread only that it wasn't a little more. I think the recent NE games have closed the gap a little and your points about what Brady has done against them in NE in the past.

ThatllMoveTheChains!!! · Oct 27, 2014

obgod3 said:
Whatever.

BTW Im a Pats fan but not one with blinders on.

Who needs blinders when your eyes are caked with Peyton Manning's man batter.

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