Report: Patriots are one of top two candidates to land Ray Rice

Joker said:

If Rice is cleared, both by the league and the court, he should be allowed to play again.

I'd like to make MY opinion of this supposition known. Rice is already convicted in the court of public opinion. No one is unringing THAT bell. I also believe that the order of the objects in your sentence are backwards.If Rice is cleared by the courts, THEN he could be cleared by the league. I cannot fathom the first as a possibility BUT...NJ? criminal court? I trust nothing as far as anything related to municipalities or the state of New Jersey goes.

OK, let's make a very shaky assumption that ,somehow, Rice is cleared by the criminal court. Is Goodell then going to issue the edict that he be allowed to play in the NFL again? My point is, are we to assume all this will be happening in a vacuum? No Gloria Allreds waiting in the shadows with knives sharpened, waiting to strike? The PR hit will be incalculable.

I watch football to be entertained...not to sit through camera shots of protesters screaming for heads to roll , carrying billboards outside the stadiums of the NFL.Not to turn on the NFLN only to be treated to another in an interminable round table discussion of Ray Rice.

Here's what I think happens...Rice is adjudicated, pays his penalty and then applies for reinstatement. I think this will take some time, perhaps in time for training camps next summer. Some low profile,low media area like say, Jacksonville, takes a flier on him to see what he has left. Do I think the Broncos or the Seahawks or San Diego or Dallas or even the Jets/Giants invite him to camp? No. I have to see THAT to believe it. The Patriots????????????...c'mon, this is ridiculous.

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Deus Irae said:

How cute.... My stalker, who must have me on "follow", has dashed over to chime in with a "disagree".


It's like having my own pet psychopath.

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The prosecutor in the Ray Rice case claims that he wasn’t showing leniency when he allowed Rice to get off with a pre-trial intervention program for punching his wife. The data suggests that in reality, the prosecutor gave Rice a sweetheart deal that is almost unheard of for violent crimes like Rice’s.

ESPN reports that less than 1 percent of domestic violence assault cases in New Jersey end with pre-trial intervention. In the past four years in New Jersey, there have been 15,029 domestic violence cases involving assault. Only 70, or 0.47 percent, have ended with the pre-trial intervention that prosecutors gave Rice.

Richard Sparaco, a defense attorney with more than 30 years of experience in Atlantic County, told ESPN that he has never heard of a crime as violent at the crime Rice committed resulting in pre-trial intervention, or PTI.

“I can’t say I’ve ever had a violent crime of this nature accepted into the PTI — in any county,” he said. “With this type of domestic violence and the video that we’ve all seen now, you’d have to say if a prosecutor sees that video, it would be quite surprising to us defense attorneys to see acceptance into the PTI program.”

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Joker said:

Is it pretrial diversion or deferred adjudication, Deus? I can't make heads or tails of the published report.

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RayClay said:

Rice will never be cleared because he was never properly charged and won't have his day in court.




http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...secutor-gave-ray-rice-preferential-treatment/

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Joker said:

Is it pretrial diversion or deferred adjudication, Deus? I can't make heads or tails of the published report.

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Ravens running back Ray Rice has been accepted into a diversionary program that could allow him to clear his record of charges that he knocked his then-fiancee unconscious in a New Jersey casino, but he could still face discipline from the NFL.



Rice, 27, earlier this month pleaded not guilty to one count of third-degree aggravated assault and instead sought entry into a pre-trial intervention program for first-time offenders.

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supafly said:

It was pretrial intervention/diversion, Joker.

It will allow the case to be completely dismissed if he completes the program, and is used in many first-time offender cases.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...re-ravens-accepted-pretrial-diversion-program


Even if Rice were found guilty of the Felony 2 assault charge that technically may have been given to him (in the state of NJ it calls for the "permanent physical damage to the victim"), he still wouldn't have done any jail time on a first offense with no prior record.

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Deus Irae said:

PTD



http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...40520_1_rice-and-palmer-ray-rice-janay-palmer

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Deus Irae said:

My guess is that you'd be singing the praises of Rice and Incognito the moment the Patriots signed them.

Because Patriots..

Bingo.

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RayClay said:

I said he wouldn't be cleared. there is videotape of him sucker punching his girlfriend like he was Joe Frazier. I suppose he could have had a jury trial and be found not guilty, I'm just mocking the word "cleared" for a guy who knocked his girlfriend out cold with a sucker punch, then dragged her limp body like it was a corpse.

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1960Pats said:

No doubt the guy's a dirtbag, and no way I'd want him on the Pats, but he didn't throw a sucker punch like he was Joe Frazier. She took a swipe at him and he took a swing at her, and when he hit her she fell and banged her head on the railing and got knocked out by that.

If I were forced to choose between the lack of character of Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson for the Pats, I'd choose Rice. At least he admits he did something wrong.

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Jackson 2 said:

My guess is that those who might think signing Ray Rice actually don'tYou

You'd be guessing wrong.

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letekro said:

Yes, he deserves to play again. No, he is not good enough to justify the public relations nightmare that signing him would entail. Now, if AP becomes available...

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