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I doubted him. Today he was brilliant. I fear we'll see the other Brady again before American Thanksgiving.

(1) amazing, amazing player (2) the most valuable Patriots player ever (3) a champion with an exceptional winning percentage. How can you not love him ? But to say that he hasn't shown uncharacteristic inaccuracy early this season is just illogical. He has missed passes badly. Unlike other seasons. Great player, glad he is playing better. Still not the Brady of 2004. Which is fine - if everyone (especially the D) steps up their game.

Brady of 2004? What are you smokin? Brady has been fine. In fact you could argue he has kept getting better each year he is in the league. Brady is the GOAT and proves it every single year.
 
Brady's Brady. The bipolar crowd has gone from a frozen February to the Fourth of July in a few weeks, is all.
 
Brady is a beast. Can't count him out. Mentally tough guy.
 
I just threw out 2004. It could be any number of years since. If you choose to believe there has not been more frequency in errant throws, then so be it. Brady has been struggling in early 2014. Even last week there were some weird inaccurate throws.

He can win. Brady being "less" than what he's been is still plenty. But you had no concerns at all ?
 
The MVP only goes to "who is the most valuable player to his team" in your imagination (and even if it did, it still wouldn't be Brady right now).

Rivers has been the best QB in the NFL this year. Aside from this and last week, Brady has been average to bad. Look, he's had two good to great games, but he's not an MVP candidate. Not even close.
First, Tom Brady wakes up in the morning as a MVP candidate because as stats are always a factor so is status. Second, my imagination is usually accurate; I think that in review of all things we have debated I have been right in terms of outcome far more often than wrong. Third, and most important there are 10 games remaining in the season, do you have any reason to believe Tom Brady cannot maintain his current performance play (the last 2 weeks)? If you ask me there is still a ton of room for growth in the offense between the OL continuing to come together, Gronkowski getting healthier, Wright and LaFell becoming bigger parts of the offense. Hell maybe your homeboy DA might even show up for a game or 2 this season. Philip Rivers actually sucked in week 1, he has turned in 4 great games in a row, he would have to sustain that play, personally I have more confidence in Brady sustaining than I do Rivers.


For the record “candidate” is not the winner and there is usually more than 1 so you thinking Rivers is the top candidate does not mean Brady cannot also be a candidate. Sometimes I feel your need to simply attempt to call me on something or disagree with what I post takes priority over logic.

 
The recent surge of Brady doubt in New England was completely media inspired, and that's sad for a whole variety of reasons. Without them pushing the narrative, it would of never of even been a conversation

The constant negativity of our media market, somehow now culturally ingrained in how things work here, do Patriot fans a huge disservice by giving fringe bitterness and blatant trolling a platform to enter mainstream conversations.

Boston sports-media is probably the worst in the entire nation. One could point to the Cirus show in Jerzey, but we win football games and run a disciplined ship, and the Jets do not, and yet our media is just as bad, if not worse.

I'd love to see them all boycotted until that entire media culture is run out of Boston but I know it'll never happen.
 
Brady's Brady. The bipolar crowd has gone from a frozen February to the Fourth of July in a few weeks, is all.
I'm pretty sure myself and the rest of the posters who posted in this thread have maintained our support of Brady from day 1 and without wavering.
 
The MVP is not strictly based on stats, it is about who is the most valuable player to his team.

On the hyperbole subject, suggesting that today’s game by Brady would be Rivers worst certainly fits that bill. Brady had a 139 QB rating today, Rivers high is 131 this season, and Rivers has 1 game with 300 yards passing, so like I said complete hyperbole, Rivers has played well no doubt but hardly to the level you suggest.


You're 100% correct, but unfortunately they don't hand out MVPs based off that very often. If that was the case, then Brady would've won last year (He actually got 1 vote)
 
I'm pretty sure myself and the rest of the posters who posted in this thread have maintained our support of Brady from day 1 and without wavering.

Yeah, I guess he was washed up, but is now in the lead for MVP based on one half. My mistake.
 
Yeah, I guess he was washed up, but is now in the lead for MVP based on one half. My mistake.
When did I ever say he was washed up? If you are suggesting that I did you are a bold face liar. The only player I ever criticize is Amendola, and I was on the money 100% with him, other than that I speak highly of just about every player, even the players that most **** on. I opened a thread to sign LaFell before we even signed him, spent most of last season defending Wendell saying he was getting the bulk of the blame for interior play and it was not merited, saying Tavon Wilson would be a bigger part of things this season, and I could go on. One thing is for sure I have never said anything negative about Tom Brady, so you should really check yourself because I will freaking embarrass you by providing 100s of posts to discredit you and highlight to this entire board that you talk about your rear and make stuff up as you go along.


I can tolerate a lot of things, heated discussions, miserable posters, etc. but I have no tolerance for liars, none.


 
I doubted him. Today he was brilliant. I fear we'll see the other Brady again before American Thanksgiving.

(1) amazing, amazing player (2) the most valuable Patriots player ever (3) a champion with an exceptional winning percentage. How can you not love him ? But to say that he hasn't shown uncharacteristic inaccuracy early this season is just illogical. He has missed passes badly. Unlike other seasons. Great player, glad he is playing better. Still not the Brady of 2004. Which is fine - if everyone (especially the D) steps up their game.

Idiotic.
 
When did I ever say he was washed up? If you are suggesting that I did you are a bold face liar. The only player I ever criticize is Amendola, and I was on the money 100% with him, other than that I speak highly of just about every player, even the players that most **** on. I opened a thread to sign LaFell before we even signed him, spent most of last season defending Wendell saying he was getting the bulk of the blame for interior play and it was not merited, saying Tavon Wilson would be a bigger part of things this season, and I could go on. One thing is for sure I have never said anything negative about Tom Brady, so you should really check yourself because I will freaking embarrass you by providing 100s of posts to discredit you and highlight to this entire board that you talk about your rear and make stuff up as you go along.

I can tolerate a lot of things, heated discussions, miserable posters, etc. but I have no tolerance for liars, none.


You must have some great conversations with yourself.
 
You must have some great conversations with yourself.
As far as 1 half goes that is just completely untrue, Brady had 2 bad half’s this season the second half in Miami and the second half in KC, outside of that his QB rating was 95.0 and his completion percentage was about 64%. In fact I opened a thread outlining this a week ago, I also opened a thread a few weeks ago outlining the falsely of his deep ball issues. You must have missed all of those threads and read the imaginary threads that you dream up instead.

This post makes no sense, it just looks like a failed attempt to save face.

Why don’t you go troll another thread Ray, this thread was created for positive discussion and you do not appear to be capable of those types of discussions.
 
As far as 1 half goes that is just completely untrue, Brady had 2 bad half’s this season the second half in Miami and the second half in KC, outside of that his QB rating was 95.0 and his completion percentage was about 64%. In fact I opened a thread outlining this a week ago, I also opened a thread a few weeks ago outlining the falsely of his deep ball issues. You must have missed all of those threads and read the imaginary threads that you dream up instead.

This post makes no sense, it just looks like a failed attempt to save face.

Why don’t you go troll another thread Ray, this thread was created for positive discussion and you do not appear to be capable of those types of discussions.

So, how many halfs does an MVP need? He's won the MVP this year, right?
 
So, how many halfs does an MVP need? He's won the MVP this year, right?
MVP candidate is what I said. Go troll someplace else seriously you are just failing repeatedly here.
 
Brady is a beast. Can't count him out. Mentally tough guy.

Mentally tough?? Definitely in his younger days. Now?? There was no mental toughness during the 2nd half of the Chiefs game when Brady threw in the towel and flat out quit. Spent the first 4 weeks pouting like a 6 year old and had his camp spinning tales in the media.
Was that mental toughness during the last minute of the Super Bowl in 2007 (amazing how overlooked that sequence of plays has been over the years) when the Patriots got the ball back, had timeouts to use, had close to 50 secs on the clock and only needed a FG to win it all. Brady made NO attempt to work the ball down the field to get into FG range. All he did was chuck it long to Moss like he couldn't wait to get off the field.
Tom Brady has not been "Joe Cool" on the field for several years now.
Mental toughness delivered Tom Brady today against the Buffalo Tomato Cans?? o_O
Come on guys.
 
Mentally tough?? Definitely in his younger days. Now?? There was no mental toughness during the 2nd half of the Chiefs game when Brady threw in the towel and flat out quit. Spent the first 4 weeks pouting like a 6 year old and had his camp spinning tales in the media.
Was that mental toughness during the last minute of the Super Bowl in 2007 (amazing how overlooked that sequence of plays has been over the years) when the Patriots got the ball back, had timeouts to use, had close to 50 secs on the clock and only needed a FG to win it all. Brady made NO attempt to work the ball down the field to get into FG range. All he did was chuck it long to Moss like he couldn't wait to get off the field.
Tom Brady has not been "Joe Cool" on the field for several years now.
Mental toughness delivered Tom Brady today against the Buffalo Tomato Cans?? o_O
Come on guys.

WTF
 
Mentally tough?? Definitely in his younger days. Now?? There was no mental toughness during the 2nd half of the Chiefs game when Brady threw in the towel and flat out quit. Spent the first 4 weeks pouting like a 6 year old and had his camp spinning tales in the media.
Was that mental toughness during the last minute of the Super Bowl in 2007 (amazing how overlooked that sequence of plays has been over the years) when the Patriots got the ball back, had timeouts to use, had close to 50 secs on the clock and only needed a FG to win it all. Brady made NO attempt to work the ball down the field to get into FG range. All he did was chuck it long to Moss like he couldn't wait to get off the field.
Tom Brady has not been "Joe Cool" on the field for several years now.
Mental toughness delivered Tom Brady today against the Buffalo Tomato Cans?? o_O
Come on guys.

30 Seconds isn't 50 seconds. A field goal would not have won it all. You're allowed to have a terrible opinion but get the facts straight.
 
Mentally tough?? Definitely in his younger days. Now?? There was no mental toughness during the 2nd half of the Chiefs game when Brady threw in the towel and flat out quit. Spent the first 4 weeks pouting like a 6 year old and had his camp spinning tales in the media.
Was that mental toughness during the last minute of the Super Bowl in 2007 (amazing how overlooked that sequence of plays has been over the years) when the Patriots got the ball back, had timeouts to use, had close to 50 secs on the clock and only needed a FG to win it all. Brady made NO attempt to work the ball down the field to get into FG range. All he did was chuck it long to Moss like he couldn't wait to get off the field.
Tom Brady has not been "Joe Cool" on the field for several years now.
Mental toughness delivered Tom Brady today against the Buffalo Tomato Cans?? o_O
Come on guys.
Hey Dan, (Shaughnessy) stop trolling this forum, will you please?
 
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