Jerod Mayo suffers knee injury

upstater1 · Oct 12, 2014

BradyFTW! said:
They tried, but they didn't really have the blocking to get anywhere. I actually thought it was weird that the Bills were running between the tackles so much. Makes sense in principle with mayo and Hightower out, but wasn't really working.

They did try but it was straight ahead, no trapping, no pulls, etc.

RxJock1120 · Oct 12, 2014

Marinlik said:
He played every game his first year. Missed 3 games his second year. Then missed 2 games in his fourth year. You make his career sound much worse than it has been.

Right, then missed most of last year, and looks to be done this year...He is injured more often then not. Plus a torn patella injury, which some are speculating, is a degenerative injury.
Guys I loved Mayo too, but a second lost year, keeping in mind his salary cap hit, is probably the end of his career as a Patriot...

Archeryaddict12 · Oct 12, 2014

Gonna miss Ridley. He seemed to finally control the ball and run well. Now he is done for the year it seems

RobertWeathers · Oct 12, 2014

DaBruinz said:
You aren't typically prone to such stupid comments, but this is pretty bad..Especially since Mayo is under contract through the 2018 season..

Unless it's about guaranteed money and cap hits, you do realize that contracts in the NFL are worthless, right? As long as either one can be absorbed, everyone is expendable.

I think you need some historical perspective of the situation Mayo now finds himself in contract-wise.

He'll most likely will go to IR and miss the remaining 10 games. Include 11 from last year and 2 from the playoffs and he will have missed 22 out of 34 games.

The Pats owe him $6m but he gets $4.5m if injured.

He has a $10m cap hit in 2015. They save almost $4.3m if they let him go.

Coming off a severe knee injury that means the team will insist on lowering that cap number. Mayo will need to decide what is best for him.

As of Feb '15 he'll be 29. Not terribly old..not young either.

Marinlik · Oct 12, 2014

RxJock1120 said:
Right, then missed most of last year, and looks to be done this year...He is injured more often then not. Plus a torn patella injury, which some are speculating, is a degenerative injury.
Guys I loved Mayo too, but a second lost year, keeping in mind his salary cap hit, is probably the end of his career as a Patriot...

He has played 87 regular season games in his career and missed 25(if he is out for season). So no. He is not injured more often then not.

But yeah. Not good if he misses most of two seasons in a row. But when he played during the last two years he was really, really good. He is also the leader of our defense. Might restructure him and give him less money, but more in guarantee. Might benefit both parties.

RxJock1120 · Oct 12, 2014

Marinlik said:
He has played 87 regular season games in his career and missed 25(if he is out for season). So no. He is not injured more often then not.

But yeah. Not good if he misses most of two seasons in a row. But when he played during the last two years he was really, really good. He is also the leader of our defense. Might restructure him and give him less money, but more in guarantee. Might benefit both parties.

It's not as much a strictly injury thing, but a combo of injury and around $10 mil cap hit next year. This is why i fear another IR could cost him his career with the Pats. I am holding out hope that it may be an MCL injury where we could have him back by the end of the year.

alvinnf · Oct 12, 2014

Well Ridley will probably get through the season without a fumble, not too shabby......

Miguel · Oct 12, 2014

See http://www.patscap.com/mayo.html for information about Mayo's salary cap numbers.

in 2015 he is due 6,687,500 in new money
in 2016 7,787,500
in 2017 9,187,500

Pats will have a gross cap savings of $4,287,500 in 2015 be releasing Mayo before 6/2/2015. Net cap savings will be less since a player with a $435,000 salary would most likely take Mayo's place in the Top 51 list.

PatsBoy12 · Oct 12, 2014

RxJock1120 said:
Right, then missed most of last year, and looks to be done this year...He is injured more often then not. Plus a torn patella injury, which some are speculating, is a degenerative injury.
Guys I loved Mayo too, but a second lost year, keeping in mind his salary cap hit, is probably the end of his career as a Patriot...

I, too, brought up his contract situation in another thread, so I get the point you're trying to make. However, you're deluding yourself if you think Mayo is done as a Patriot unless he comes back and can barely run. And I don't see that happening, no matter how severe this one might be. That's just too strong an assertion at this point, IMHO. He means too much to the D from a QB of the defense aspect. They'll restructure before they just cut him.

RxJock1120 · Oct 12, 2014

PatsBoy12 said:
I, too, brought up his contract situation in another thread, so I get the point you're trying to make. However, you're deluding yourself if you think Mayo is done as a Patriot unless he comes back and can barely run. And I don't see that happening, no matter how severe this one might be. That's just too strong an assertion at this point, IMHO. He means too much to the D from a QB of the defense aspect. They'll restructure before they just cut him.

I don't think it is completely delusional to assume one your top paid players, misses 2 years in a row with a significant injury, and the team would consider cutting him. Especially when most were saying the same about Wilfork last year, who missed a grand total of 1 game prior to last year. (I know it's not a perfect example). Plus everyone keeps mentioning his cap for 2015, but there are a few more years in his contract as well.

West Philly Patriot · Oct 12, 2014

alvinnf said:
Well Ridley will probably get through the season without a fumble, not too shabby......

Too soon

supafly · Oct 12, 2014

West Philly Patriot said:
Skinner wasn't very good in the passing game, did a little better as the game progressed. Better as a blitzer and in the run game only. Getting Zeus back will help a lot.

Off topic--but I do not believe that your meme depicting Richard Sherman is accurate. It's nothing but typical internet folklore.

He has a Bachelor's degree....in communications. He never finished a Master's degree. He attended Stanford from '06--'10.

Still impressive, but not quite what it's portraying.

AzPatsFan · Oct 12, 2014

Joey007 said:
Now I do think this is the last we will see of Ridley as a Patriot.

I don't know why. We are 6 games into the season, and no fumbles. He has taken the tough coaching about ball security to heart just like Faulk once did. Plus he was on course for an 1100 yard season, similar to his previous 1300 yard season.

PatsBoy12 · Oct 12, 2014

RxJock1120 said:
I don't think it is completely delusional to assume one your top paid players, misses 2 years in a row with a significant injury, and the team would consider cutting him. Especially when most were saying the same about Wilfork last year, who missed a grand total of 1 game prior to last year. (I know it's not a perfect example). Plus everyone keeps mentioning his cap for 2015, but there are a few more years in his contract as well.

Respect. The Wilfork injury had age as a factor. Mayo is still relatively young and, one could argue, in the prime of his career. There is absolutely nobody on this team that can replace what Mayo brings to this team. Again, I don't doubt that NE will want to look at his contract, but I think they look at restructuring far before they look at cutting him, like Wilfork, who you've cited. They asked a declining Mankins to restructure as well. Mayo may no longer be ascending, but he certainly isn't descending/declining either. As BTW corrected me, Mayo's injuries are not from wear-and-tear so assuming rehab goes well, he should be able to return to very close to form at least.

P.S. Pardon my use of the word 'delusional.' I really did not mean to come off disrespectful at all.

supafly · Oct 12, 2014

SVN said:
Tom E. Curran ‏@tomecurran 4m4 minutes ago
Also was told by two sources that Brady's ankle injury was "no joke" and it took significant work and treatment to get it right.

Considering it was only the 5th time that he's been on the injury report as anything but probable, I don't think many of us were buying into what Florio and Company were selling.

Of course, they never let facts get in the way of an attempt at a good story.

supafly · Oct 12, 2014

AzPatsFan said:
I don't know why. We are 6 games into the season, and no fumbles. He has taken the tough coaching about ball security to heart just like Faulk once did. Plus he was on course for an 1100 yard season, similar to his previous 1300 yard season.

Because he will no longer be under contract.

I suppose his fate is in the hands of other teams who may offer him more.

It may come down to a "prove it" one year deal in the spring due to his injury. That could go either way, but he may have to settle for one more year here first.

RxJock1120 · Oct 12, 2014

PatsBoy12 said:
Respect. The Wilfork injury had age as a factor. Mayo is still relatively young and, one could argue, in the prime of his career. There is absolutely nobody on this team that can replace what Mayo brings to this team. Again, I don't doubt that NE will want to look at his contract, but I think they look at restructuring far before they look at cutting him, like Wilfork, who you've cited. They asked a declining Mankins to restructure as well. Mayo may no longer be ascending, but he certainly isn't descending/declining either. As BTW corrected me, Mayo's injuries are not from wear-and-tear so assuming rehab goes well, he should be able to return to very close to form at least.

P.S. Pardon my use of the word 'delusional.' I really did not mean to come off disrespectful at all.

No offense taken, but I appreciate the gesture. I know that up to this point May's injuries were not wear and tear. I am not sure about MCL, but from personal experience it can be very lingering, then again I am not a world class athlete by any stretch of imagination...unless beer chugging becomes a pro-sport. However, this injury may be a debilitating, patella tendon injuries usually only recover 85-90% of the strength in the knee...so the ultimate point is I think this injury may be negative game changer....but I REALLY REALLY hope I am wrong.

SHOWTIME15 · Oct 12, 2014

If I had to pick getting one of these guys back, I would take Mayo. I think the team can absorb a Ridley "out for the year' scenario with James White and/or signing the Law Firm. However, losing Mayo a second year in a row would be tough.

SHOWTIME15 · Oct 12, 2014

not sure if this was posted, but here is Ridley after the game with an "ACL brace"

http://instagram.com/p/uERDktBm57/

PatsBoy12 · Oct 12, 2014

RxJock1120 said:
No offense taken, but I appreciate the gesture. I know that up to this point May's injuries were not wear and tear. I am not sure about MCL, but from personal experience it can be very lingering, then again I am not a world class athlete by any stretch of imagination...unless beer chugging becomes a pro-sport. However, this injury may be a debilitating, patella tendon injuries usually only recover 85-90% of the strength in the knee...so the ultimate point is I think this injury may be negative game changer....but I REALLY REALLY hope I am wrong.

So do I. LOL Point taken. I have always heard of Mayo's work ethic, so I believe he can come back just as strong, maybe a bit slower by half a step. We were already so thin at the position and we'll suffer against the better offenses we will face soon. There will have to be some scheming and maybe more Chung in passing situations than we'd like.

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