WR Kenbrell Thompkins waived (update: claimed by Raiders)

Rob0729 · Oct 5, 2014

ensoul said:
BB has a history of cutting good players. The thing is Thompkins and Dobson are not very good so this shoud be a suprise to no one. Dobson is probably cut next week.

It is far more likely that Dobson will be starting in a few weeks. Dobson is a young receiver with tons of potential coming off foot surgery missing the entire offseason and preseason. He is still basically in preseason in his preparation for the season. Wait until the end of the month at least before you bury the guy.

Jackson 2 · Oct 5, 2014

DropKickFlutie said:
McDaniels is OVERRATED. Horrible on field results in Denver, St Louis, and now has dismantled O'Brien's offense in NE to the point where even Brady can't save it.

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Evidently, you missed the intended irony of my post.

Brady6 · Oct 5, 2014

AzorianPats said:
I don't agree with that. I believe the coaching staff rates DA over KT. To date DA been activated for every game. Using his cap number is not an excuse. BB had no problem deactivating Adelius Thomas in 09. We know how much he cost.

Thomas was inactive for disciplinary reasons not performance related reasons. Thomas playing poorly during his tenure with the team is greatly exaggerated. He was not what everyone expected and his attitude went to **** in his final season those were the issues.

The reality is that Thompkins had 6 catches for 53 yards in 2 games and Amendola has 3 catches for 16 yards in 4 games, over the past 3 games despite Thompkins being inactive for 2 out of 3 he still has 1 more catch than Amendola. Amendola is active and still on the roster because if we cut him today we would have $11.8M against are cap since he signed here. They are going to give him the opportunity to earn that money.

State · Oct 5, 2014

Dobson isn't going to be very valuable to us if our line can't protect Brady up the middle. Plays with Dobson typically take a second or two or three longer to develop. That's why the play of the offensive line is so offensive to our offense. Who's going to step up? The tackles? Yeah, right. The rookies? Um, please.

I'm counting on Wendell and Connolly to do it. But I have my doubts that that'll work well. It certainly isn't going to strike fear in the Bengals, who must be liking their chops for this game.

Rob0729 · Oct 5, 2014

State said:
Dobson isn't going to be very valuable to us if our line can't protect Brady up the middle. Plays with Dobson typically take a second or two or three longer to develop. That's why the play of the offensive line is so offensive to our offense. Who's going to step up? The tackles? Yeah, right. The rookies? Um, please.

I'm counting on Wendell and Connolly to do it. But I have my doubts that that'll work well. It certainly isn't going to strike fear in the Bengals, who must be liking their chops for this game.

The o-line played far better than people gave it credit for against KC. They definitely had their problems at times, but they played well early.

People forget that on both INTs, Brady had plenty of time in the pocket. He just made bad decisions. I think Dobson can make a difference.

Gronkowski123 · Oct 5, 2014

wonder how josh bust i mean boyce feels....

mgteich · Oct 5, 2014

Brady6 said:
Thomas was inactive for disciplinary reasons not performance related reasons. Thomas playing poorly during his tenure with the team is greatly exaggerated. He was not what everyone expected and his attitude went to **** in his final season those were the issues.

The reality is that Thompkins had 6 catches for 53 yards in 2 games and Amendola has 3 catches for 16 yards in 4 games, over the past 3 games despite Thompkins being inactive for 2 out of 3 he still has 1 more catch than Amendola. Amendola is active and still on the roster because if we cut him today we would have $11.8M against are cap since he signed here. They are going to give him the opportunity to earn that money.

I agree that Amendola is likely to continue to play. He is playing in the slot; Edelman is not.

However, I don't understand your position.

The cap money is sunk cost.

If Thompkins were projected to contribute as much as they expect from Amendola, he'd be active. If Amendola were executed to produce as much as Thompkins, he likely would be cut. The cap money is GONE.
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There is one complicating factor if there were equal. Thompkins can be signed to the Practice Squad if no one wants him; Amendola cannot.

Brady6 · Oct 5, 2014

mgteich said:
I agree that Amendola is likely to continue to play. He is playing in the slot; Edelman is not.

However, I don't understand your position.

The cap money is sunk cost.

If Thompkins were projected to contribute as much as they expect from Amendola, he'd be active. If Amendola were executed to produce as much as Thompkins, he likely would be cut. The cap money is GONE.
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There is one complicating factor if there were equal. Thompkins can be signed to the Practice Squad if no one wants him; Amendola cannot.

The ROI comes in the form of production if they cut him now any future ROI on the $11.8M already invested in Amendola is eliminated. I think the Patriots want to get as much out of that investment as possible whether or not it is sunk either way.

Also the Patriots likely made a calculated risk on which receiver they could release and have the best chance to resign once Ebner returns and they send Davis back to the practice squad.

#56300ex · Oct 5, 2014

They got rid of Thompkins to keep Tyms because he's Garoppolo's favorite target

That MUST mean Brady's getting cut!!!

*runs around in circles because the sky is falling*

mgteich · Oct 5, 2014

Brady6 said:
The ROI comes in the form of production if they cut him now any future ROI on the $11.8M already invested in Amendola is eliminated. I think the Patriots want to get as much out of that investment as possible whether or not it is sunk either way.
You don't understand the economic concept of sunk cost. This is not a criticism, just a fact. And yes, I am equipped to make that judgment.

Also the Patriots likely made a calculated risk on which receiver they could release and have the best chance to resign once Ebner returns and they send Davis back to the practice squad.
Agreed. Of course, that means that we are talking about a player the quality of a strew free agent, a healthy player not wanted by any of the 32 teams. After all, if no WR needy team wants Thompkins, how valuable is he?

doesntmatter1 · Oct 5, 2014

A day later and I have rationalized why he is gone. Our offense functions with a lot of yards after the catch and he must've kept falling down at practice. Till the point Iverson was like "He's falling...at practice. I'm talking about practice, man."

bobbutts · Oct 5, 2014

Brady6 said:
Thomas was inactive for disciplinary reasons not performance related reasons. Thomas playing poorly during his tenure with the team is greatly exaggerated. He was not what everyone expected and his attitude went to **** in his final season those were the issues.

The reality is that Thompkins had 6 catches for 53 yards in 2 games and Amendola has 3 catches for 16 yards in 4 games, over the past 3 games despite Thompkins being inactive for 2 out of 3 he still has 1 more catch than Amendola. Amendola is active and still on the roster because if we cut him today we would have $11.8M against are cap since he signed here. They are going to give him the opportunity to earn that money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy

Many people have strong misgivings about "wasting" resources (loss aversion). In the above example involving a non-refundable movie ticket, many people, for example, would feel obliged to go to the movie despite not really wanting to, because doing otherwise would be wasting the ticket price; they feel they've passed the point of no return. This is sometimes referred to as the sunk cost fallacy. Economists would label this behavior "irrational": it is inefficient because it misallocates resources by depending on information that is irrelevant to the decision being made. Colloquially, this is known as "throwing good money after bad".

Snake Eyes · Oct 5, 2014

Gronkowski123 said:
KT will end up in NY with the Jets!!!

Rex will try to reverse troll Belichick....and fail miserably.

Thompkins will give him useful information.

AzorianPats · Oct 5, 2014

Brady6 said:
Thomas was inactive for disciplinary reasons not performance related reasons. Thomas playing poorly during his tenure with the team is greatly exaggerated. He was not what everyone expected and his attitude went to **** in his final season those were the issues.

The reality is that Thompkins had 6 catches for 53 yards in 2 games and Amendola has 3 catches for 16 yards in 4 games, over the past 3 games despite Thompkins being inactive for 2 out of 3 he still has 1 more catch than Amendola. Amendola is active and still on the roster because if we cut him today we would have $11.8M against are cap since he signed here. They are going to give him the opportunity to earn that money.

Disciplinary reasons or poor play, He was still inactive for a couple of games. And he had a huge contract. If the t team thought Amendola was that poor, and KT was better he'd be playing.

Amendola hasn't shown anything this season, but neither has Tompkins. In fact Tompkins hasn't shown much since he caught the game winning TD vs the saints last year.

hwc · Oct 5, 2014

farn said:
Question : is this a football decision ? I know KT isn't the new Megatron, but I had no idea he was so close to the bubble.

When a team has one of the worst offenses in the NFL and is consistently playing like dog poop, everyone in close to the bubble. These guys are not playing like world beaters -- or even mid-pack so-so NFL caliber standards.

Deus Irae · Oct 5, 2014

farn said:
Question : is this a football decision ? I know KT isn't the new Megatron, but I had no idea he was so close to the bubble.

Why would the WR5 on a 5WR team not be close to the bubble?

shmessy · Oct 5, 2014

Deus Irae said:
Why would the WR5 on a 5WR team not be close to the bubble?

Because the next option is.........Slater, Boyce, Tyms?

Let's just say, much farther down.

Joker · Oct 5, 2014

I had some sunk costs on my last foray to Vegas, I'll tell ya...

DarrylS · Oct 5, 2014

Joker said:
I had some sunk costs on my last foray to Vegas, I'll tell ya...

You can do better than this, we need some good "Joker Levity" to lighten up all of this nonsense..

supafly · Oct 5, 2014

Mike the Brit said:
Well, gloat all you like. I accept that I may have been wrong in predicting he would be a big part of this season's offense ...

Definitely not meaning to gloat about anything, Mike--particularly something that hurts us as a team. I'm wrong on a daily basis, so you'll never top that

It was a tongue in cheek comment about Craig and his talk about Thompkins + his new training regimen this offseason, that's all.

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