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BritPat · Sep 28, 2014

I was really happy with the Dobson pick and I still am, personally.

FrodoBagginz · Sep 28, 2014

I was wondering why they aren't playing Woodhead in this game. I googled it and he is out for the season with a broken leg. Dang. Huge loss to the Chargers. Hope he gets better.

Rob0729 · Sep 28, 2014

ausbacker said:
Most people are going to compare Keenan Allen and Aaron Dobson because it seemed like Allen was the obvious pick at the time. Right now, Allen is proving to be the superior player.

I'm quite high on Dobson but he needs to come on sooner rather than later for the simple reason that the Patriots need him.

Allen was a risk at the time. He was the one with a really bad injury history. There is a reason why he dropped to where he dropped.

BritPat · Sep 28, 2014

Antone Smith - wow. Superb!

Brady6 · Sep 28, 2014

New England Pride said:
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That makes 2 of us. I want Dobson the field every week for 75% of the offensive snaps. Of all of the WRs not named Edelman we should be most invested in developing Dobson.

Sfpat · Sep 28, 2014

The Eagles just cannot set the edge (Gore is killing my FF team)

JMC00 · Sep 28, 2014

Froob said:
Why did Saints-Cowboys make it to SNF again? We all know that defense is going to get destroyed by Drew Brees.

Because this game wasn't picked to be on SNF a week ago it was picked 5 months ago.

gtfanboy · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
Allen was a risk at the time. He was the one with a really bad injury history. There is a reason why he dropped to where he dropped.

I wonder why the Pats didn't pick him up then...they usually love the injured "value" players...

AzPatsFan · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
I am tired of all the *****ing on this board and going overboard about players. All day it has been "The Pats should have signed Steven Smith" "The Pats should have signed Mike Wallace". etc. I am sorry if I am unloading on you, but it is just tiring in general. I will stop attacking you. I am sorry again.

You sir, are NOT the only one to feel that way. Right on!

The same, ahem, gentlemen, who criticize Dobson for his screws in his a foot, are adamant that we should have signed the shrimp that the Broncs did. Who, bye-the-bye, has two similar screws in his foot for the same problem.

If BB had done so, I'm sure they would have blasted him about signing another "smurf" and not signing a somewhat proven NFL receiver that is 6'3" tall, and can help the Run game, and in the Red Zone.

ausbacker · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
Allen was a risk at the time. He was the one with a really bad injury history. There is a reason why he dropped to where he dropped.

So did Gronk, so did Hernandez. Players drop all the time.

BritPat · Sep 28, 2014

gtfanboy said:
I wonder why the Pats didn't pick him up then...they usually love the injured "value" players...

An interesting thought. Maybe they were spooked by Ra's al Ghul?

AzPatsFan · Sep 28, 2014

BritPat said:
Keenan Allen looking like a young Marvin Harrison. Gits.

Not even a little bit. They have entirely dissimilar styles

Patriot Missile · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
IDK, the Saints have not looked all that great this year. They are 1-2 and they lost Cleveland and Atlanta (not exactly two world beaters thus far) and they were only beating the Vikes 13-9 at home last week going into the fourth quarter and the Cowboys are 2-1. This game doesn't excite me, but it could be far more competitive than you think.

I was gonna reply but you just pretty much summed it up. I'll add the Saints better be prepared to play defense. Romo to Bryant, Witten and Williams is pretty formidable. Add in Demarco Murray who is having one of the best seasons of any player this season and you have a chance.

Brady6 · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
IDK, the Saints have not looked all that great this year. They are 1-2 and they lost Cleveland and Atlanta (not exactly two world beaters thus far) and they were only beating the Vikes 13-9 at home last week going into the fourth quarter and the Cowboys are 2-1. This game doesn't excite me, but it could be far more competitive than you think.

Sadly I think it is being billed as Rob Ryan’s return to Dallas. Tough week for marquee games.

Rob0729 · Sep 28, 2014

ausbacker said:
So did Gronk, so did Hernandez. Players drop all the time.

I understand that, but that is why the Pats probably shied away from him. Maybe their medical staff didn't like his medicals. Some players have injury red flags that are bigger red flags than others and sometime those red flags prove to be unfounded.

I am just stating that Allen wasn't a slam dunk at the time of the draft and dropped for a reason.

Brady6 · Sep 28, 2014

AzPatsFan said:
You sir, are NOT the only one to feel that way. Right on!

The same, ahem, gentlemen, who criticize Dobson for his screws in his a foot, are adamant that we should have signed the shrimp that the Broncs did. Who, bye-the-bye, has two similar screws in his foot for the same problem.

If BB had done so, I'm sure they would have blasted him about signing another "smurf" and not signing a somewhat proven NFL receiver that is 6'3" tall, and can help the Run game, and in the Red Zone.

I actually opened a thread to sign LaFell before the Patriots even brought him in for a visit so I am a huge advocate of the signing, but if we were talking just 2014, Steve Smith would have been a better pickup. The thing people do not realize is the Patriots never had an opportunity to sign Smith, he had a visit scheduled with us following his visit with the Ravens, and he canceled the visit and signed with the Ravens. The thing everyone is criticizing Belichick for not doing was not an option.

ausbacker · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
I understand that, but that is why the Pats probably shied away from him. Maybe their medical staff didn't like his medicals. Some players have injury red flags that are bigger red flags than others and sometime those red flags prove to be unfounded.

I am just stating that Allen wasn't a slam dunk at the time of the draft and dropped for a reason.

My personal opinion is I was/am happy with the Dobson pick but preferred Allen. The point of discussion is their current development. The Patriots really need Dobson to develop and develop quickly.

JMC00 · Sep 28, 2014

Rob0729 said:
I understand that, but that is why the Pats probably shied away from him. Maybe their medical staff didn't like his medicals. Some players have injury red flags that are bigger red flags than others and sometime those red flags prove to be unfounded.

I am just stating that Allen wasn't a slam dunk at the time of the draft and dropped for a reason.

Who knows maybe if Allen was still there at #83 Pats pick him, take Logan Ryan at #91 and Harmon at #102.

Brady6 · Sep 28, 2014

Gronkowski123 said:
dobson is better.

anyway, philly got screwed on that drive. 3rd and long and the niners get a home cooked call. some bs holding on a cb. the nfl doesn't want the 49ers going 1-3

The thing about those types of comparisons is they are flawed. Allen is better with the Chargers who handed him the starting job and have given him 100% of the opportunity to succeed. Dobson is with the Patriots who started an UDFA over him because the player worked hard and picked up the offense the quickest and have made him earn every rep on offense. Sometimes the opportunity makes the player more than the player making the opportunity.

Brady6 · Sep 28, 2014

JMC00 said:
There is also a chance if Allen was still there at #83 Pats pick him, take Logan Ryan at #91 and Harmon at #102.

If we could draft in hindsight are only concern would be fitting all the contract extensions under the cap.

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