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We need a downfield receiver. I suspect that we will all be frustrated until Thompkins or Dobson steps up. What I find harder to understand is why Amendola has so few catches and reps. He should be able to be open over the middle against backup linebackers.
 
We need a downfield receiver. I suspect that we will all be frustrated until Thompkins or Dobson steps up. What I find harder to understand is why Amendola has so few catches and reps. He should be able to be open over the middle against backup linebackers.

He isn;t getting open....not even close. Plus Brady barley has time to throw the ball so if he isn't open..which he isn't...he won't get the ball.


in the doghouse anyways
 
Hmmmm, Jesters play decker with a bad hammy, now he is out multiple weeks. Similar with bears and Marshall's ankle.

No insider knowledge on Dobson health, but as secretive about injuries as pats/BB are -- maybe they are quietly doing the Right thing
 
I believe BB's rationale is that we could pull out of this first 4 games 3 wins and it's more or less the expectations, we all believed that the most difficult opponent would be the Chiefs, but it's NFL, we got our ass kicked by Miami.

It's pretty clear that Dobson it's not ready to go, and we could go without him for the beginning of the season, we can't go without him in the end, so I'm ok with them easing him. One thing, I'm not sold on KT, after all the hype in pre season, I expected more playing time for him.
 
Hmmmm, Jesters play decker with a bad hammy, now he is out multiple weeks. Similar with bears and Marshall's ankle.

No insider knowledge on Dobson health, but as secretive about injuries as pats/BB are -- maybe they are quietly doing the Right thing

Decker is not a fast receiver. Both Marshall and Decker are their team's #1 receiver and neither did much of anything last night (both had one catch and were forced out of the game for stretches due to aggravating their injuries). I don't know if they are the best examples for playing receivers with injuries.
 
Hmmmm, Jesters play decker with a bad hammy, now he is out multiple weeks. Similar with bears and Marshall's ankle.

No insider knowledge on Dobson health, but as secretive about injuries as pats/BB are -- maybe they are quietly doing the Right thing
If Dobson is too injured too play, he should have already been put on the IR-Return list.
 
If Dobson is too injured too play, he should have already been put on the IR-Return list.

You would set him back even farther with that, because he would not be able to practice with the team while being on that list.
 
If Dobson is too injured too play, he should have already been put on the IR-Return list.

You are assuming that he will not be healthy enough to play until week 8-10. He may be close and just need a little more time getting his foot acclimated and will be playing again as soon as Monday.

Even if they decide to sit him for the next four to five weeks, the best thing is to keep him on the active roster and let him practice himself back into playing shape.
 
I think people need to stop overrating Aaron Dobson. He was s second round pick, yet you'd think that being drafted in the second round at WR means that you are a guaranteed superstar. The Patriots have had tons of busts in rounds 2-3 at WR; in fact, based on their prior history, I am shocked that people have such high expectations.

Because the Patriots "need" Dobson to be good based on their overall weakness at the position does not increase the chances that Dobson will actually succeed in the NFL. If anything, the fact that they are desperate for production and he is still on the bench speaks volumes. If he were as good as people on here expect/claim, he would have been picked before #59.

With the exception of Dobson's physical gifts, which can be said for virtually any NFL player (and the opponents that they face), I don't see anything to make me believe Dobson will make this offense better. For years, everyone talked about "potential", "development", etc. etc., and we all waited for a breakout from guys like Chad Jackson, Taylor Price, Brandon Tate, and Bethel Johnson. It never happened. Usually it is pretty obvious when the a player will be successful in New England.

I'm not saying that Dobson won't amount to anything, but I am very skeptical. He is more likely to be considered a bust than a star at this point in his career, and most likely he will end up as a somewhere in between a bust and decent pick, likely a #2/#3 receiver who is not a game changer.

If you want to point to his rookie production and all of his "rookie records" with Brady, you may also take note that he was targeted 74 times last season and caught 37 passes, for a 50% success rate. Let's stop trying to play tricks with numbers and admit that he was far, far away from being good during his rookie season.
 
I think people need to stop overrating Aaron Dobson. He was s second round pick, yet you'd think that being drafted in the second round at WR means that you are a guaranteed superstar. The Patriots have had tons of busts in rounds 2-3 at WR; in fact, based on their prior history, I am shocked that people have such high expectations.

Because the Patriots "need" Dobson to be good based on their overall weakness at the position does not increase the chances that Dobson will actually succeed in the NFL. If anything, the fact that they are desperate for production and he is still on the bench speaks volumes. If he were as good as people on here expect/claim, he would have been picked before #59.

With the exception of Dobson's physical gifts, which can be said for virtually any NFL player (and the opponents that they face), I don't see anything to make me believe Dobson will make this offense better. For years, everyone talked about "potential", "development", etc. etc., and we all waited for a breakout from guys like Chad Jackson, Taylor Price, Brandon Tate, and Bethel Johnson. It never happened. Usually it is pretty obvious when the a player will be successful in New England.

I'm not saying that Dobson won't amount to anything, but I am very skeptical. He is more likely to be considered a bust than a star at this point in his career, and most likely he will end up as a somewhere in between a bust and decent pick, likely a #2/#3 receiver who is not a game changer.

If you want to point to his rookie production and all of his "rookie records" with Brady, you may also take note that he was targeted 74 times last season and caught 37 passes, for a 50% success rate. Let's stop trying to play tricks with numbers and admit that he was far, far away from being good during his rookie season.

Here is what I just read: "You guy overrate Dobson. So I am going to dismiss everything he did last year as crap and vastly underrate him. If you guys can play tricks with the numbers to show he is great, I can play tricks with the numbers to show he sucks."

You just did exactly the same thing that you are accusing others of doing exact the opposite direction. You are not accounting for his poor start (where Brady was forcing the ball to him to get him and Thompkins up to speed) and the fact he played about 4-5 games with a broken foot. You are taking one stat with no context and using it to "prove" your point.

The month or so right before he broke his foot, he was really coming on. Whether he makes the next step is yet to be seen, but he was showing real signs of progression which was hampered by his injury.
 
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I think people need to stop overrating Aaron Dobson. He was s second round pick, yet you'd think that being drafted in the second round at WR means that you are a guaranteed superstar. The Patriots have had tons of busts in rounds 2-3 at WR; in fact, based on their prior history, I am shocked that people have such high expectations.

Because the Patriots "need" Dobson to be good based on their overall weakness at the position does not increase the chances that Dobson will actually succeed in the NFL. If anything, the fact that they are desperate for production and he is still on the bench speaks volumes. If he were as good as people on here expect/claim, he would have been picked before #59.

With the exception of Dobson's physical gifts, which can be said for virtually any NFL player (and the opponents that they face), I don't see anything to make me believe Dobson will make this offense better. For years, everyone talked about "potential", "development", etc. etc., and we all waited for a breakout from guys like Chad Jackson, Taylor Price, Brandon Tate, and Bethel Johnson. It never happened. Usually it is pretty obvious when the a player will be successful in New England.

I'm not saying that Dobson won't amount to anything, but I am very skeptical. He is more likely to be considered a bust than a star at this point in his career, and most likely he will end up as a somewhere in between a bust and decent pick, likely a #2/#3 receiver who is not a game changer.

If you want to point to his rookie production and all of his "rookie records" with Brady, you may also take note that he was targeted 74 times last season and caught 37 passes, for a 50% success rate. Let's stop trying to play tricks with numbers and admit that he was far, far away from being good during his rookie season.

I disagree totally. Dobsons isn't just some physically talented pass catcher, he showed a connection with Tom last year that the other draftees NEVER had. Most of us are looking forward to Dobson building off that in year two. Hope this is just a speed bump.
 
This is very frustrating to say the least. The Pats offense isn't so much more complicated than any other offense in the league. McDaniels is running it and had Brandon freaking Lloyd succeed with Tim Tebow as qb for krist sake! There is no good excuse for the Pats and Brady not to have success with all of the wr's they've had come through the door for the past 4 years or more!
 
Hoping Dobson can contribute this sunday
 
Define success for a passing game. Since you think that the offense has been a failure for the past 4 years, I suggest that you show us each the years when the offense was not in the top 5.

There is no good excuse for the Pats and Brady not to have success with all of the wr's they've had come through the door for the past 4 years or more!
 
Well there's no chance of that happening.

How do you know for sure? I haven't seen any inactive list. Someone else mentioned no lafell, where is this info coming from?
 
Um...because they don't play until Monday?
 
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