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if he was any good why did the panthers let him go

It's not like he's an unknown quantity. Four years in the NFL. Reliable 40+ catch a year guy, like clockwork.

http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonlafell/497302/careerstats

I know that by PatsFan standards, a guy is a bum unless he catches 100 balls a year, but apparently Belichick is happy to stock the roster with 40 to 50 catch a year guys.

Carolina let him go because he was a free agent and Carolina was in cap jail, with a $13 million franchise tag on Greg Hardy. They had to let a lot of good players go for cap room. They were in no position to bid on free agents this year. Their two big free agent WR signings (to replace Steve Smith and LaFell) were 32 year old Jericho Cotchery and Tiquan Underwood.
 
Lafell, Amendola, Dopson, and Wright will become more relevant deeper in the season and especially the playoffs as teams start game planning to take away Edelman and Gronk via doubles or overload schemes, or whatever. Then they become the better option. With single coverage or general D schemes, why would you go to the less dangerous, less sure, but more or less equally open option. If they cant cover #1 or #2, don't pass to an equally open #5 because you feel bad about not spreading the wealth. First man open get the ball. That's what we are seeing now. IMO of course. Once TB sees more exotic DEFs designed with the specific purpose of stopping best options, holes will naturally open to give the secondary (until now hehe) targets prime opportunity as they become the optimal targets. That's when NE's above average skill and depth at #3-#5, unable to be covered sufficiently on this play, fully in-sync with TB from seasons and reps of meticulous practice, will shine and explode onto the scene. All exactly as planned I might add.
 
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He measured 6'3" at his pro day. That is accurate the Patriots site is not. Wright himself is quoted saying his around 230lbs.

If you want to try and call me on something I suggest doing better research because this half ass nonsense isn't going to cut it. Nice attempt though. I will just continue to operate under the assumption that I cannot believe anything you say...o_O;)o_O;)o_O Oh I stole your line..:eek:

http://www.buccaneers.com/team-and-stats/roster/Timothy-Wright/6b7930ed-8afd-43c9-aeeb-f57462b42250
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/2059251/timothy-wright
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/player/timothywright/2541768/profile
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/player/timothywright/2541768/careerstats
career stats page...Tim Wright 6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WrigTi01.htm
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

Pro Day at Rutgers...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Wright_(American_football)
Tim Wright...6'4" ..229 pounds

obviously since his Rutgers Pro Day, he's lost 9 pounds. He is consistently listed at 220 pounds EVERYWHERE that counts. He has never been measured at 6'3".

Half assed nonsense?
 
Sometimes I think I'm in the Roman colosseum instead of a football forum.
http://www.buccaneers.com/team-and-stats/roster/Timothy-Wright/6b7930ed-8afd-43c9-aeeb-f57462b42250
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/2059251/timothy-wright
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/player/timothywright/2541768/profile
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/player/timothywright/2541768/careerstats
career stats page...Tim Wright 6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WrigTi01.htm
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

Pro Day at Rutgers...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Wright_(American_football)
Tim Wright...6'4" ..229 pounds

obviously since his Rutgers Pro Day, he's lost 9 pounds. He is consistently listed at 220 pounds EVERYWHERE that counts. He has never been measured at 6'3".

Half assed nonsense?

Come on Joker, he might have been measured at 6'3" once, unless he had a hell of a growth spurt.
 
Sometimes I think I'm in the Roman colosseum instead of a football forum.


Come on Joker, he might have been measured at 6'3" once, unless he had a hell of a growth spurt.
I suppose ...if they were using guns or hoes as measuring devices....:confused:
 
http://www.buccaneers.com/team-and-stats/roster/Timothy-Wright/6b7930ed-8afd-43c9-aeeb-f57462b42250
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/2059251/timothy-wright
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/player/timothywright/2541768/profile
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/player/timothywright/2541768/careerstats
career stats page...Tim Wright 6'4" 220 pounds

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WrigTi01.htm
Tim Wright...6'4" 220 pounds

Pro Day at Rutgers...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Wright_(American_football)
Tim Wright...6'4" ..229 pounds

obviously since his Rutgers Pro Day, he's lost 9 pounds. He is consistently listed at 220 pounds EVERYWHERE that counts. He has never been measured at 6'3".

Half assed nonsense?
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=85049&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR

Are you suggesting he grew an inch since his pro day?

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...200/quick-hit-thoughts-around-nfl-patriots-25

Are you suggesting he lied to Mike Reiss about his weight?

Yes nonsense, you posted a bunch of links from sites that get their inaccurate data from the same place, either the NFL or team sites. The same sites that have Wilfork as 325lbs.
 
I suppose ...if they were using guns or hoes as measuring devices....:confused:
I'm not sure what is less impressive your football knowledge or your attempts to be funny. They are equally poor especially when you consider you spend 18-20 hours a day lurking on this board.

Do you actually believe that all the sites you posted show up with a tape measure and a scale?

You hang onto the time I left the G off the gung like you are a Mensa member. It was not funny the first time you said it so the 150th time is not either. Come up with some new material, this is just laziness.
 
Way too early to evaluate LaFell. He certainly hasn't done anything to stand out but i will give him most of the season to show whether he was worth it or not.
 
Way too early to evaluate LaFell. He certainly hasn't done anything to stand out but i will give him most of the season to show whether he was worth it or not.

Yeah, I have a feeling that barring injury, he's going to continue with his consistent 40 catches or so. Obviously, all of the WRs not named Edelman got off to a very slow start in the first 2 weeks.
 
It's not like he's an unknown quantity. Four years in the NFL. Reliable 40+ catch a year guy, like clockwork.

http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonlafell/497302/careerstats

I know that by PatsFan standards, a guy is a bum unless he catches 100 balls a year, but apparently Belichick is happy to stock the roster with 40 to 50 catch a year guys.

Carolina let him go because he was a free agent and Carolina was in cap jail, with a $13 million franchise tag on Greg Hardy. They had to let a lot of good players go for cap room. They were in no position to bid on free agents this year. Their two big free agent WR signings (to replace Steve Smith and LaFell) were 32 year old Jericho Cotchery and Tiquan Underwood.


I agree. I will say that Lafell has not been impressive so far, including the pre-seaaon we really haven't seen anything that has made him stand out, however it is really early and they may have plans for incorporating him into this offense that we have no idea about. And if they are reinventing the offense to be physically dominant then Lafell's blocking ability may give him a nice role in this offense and the opportunity for more touches.
 
Yeah, I have a feeling that barring injury, he's going to continue with his consistent 40 catches or so. Obviously, all of the WRs not named Edelman got off to a very slow start in the first 2 weeks.


Agree completely. LaFell was a depth pick-up and a definite role player coming into this season and it may take time to see his role incorporated into their offense, so what will really matter is how he is used situationally and what he makes out of that. It won't matter that much if he is only catching 3 balls a game as long as they are impact receptions, and i think the same can be said of most of their skill players. I think they are in real flux offensively and it may take a while to get it running the way they want it to. That doesn't mean they won't put up points or continue to win it just may take some time to really get it where they want it and are able to run all of the packages they want to run. I think the season is going to be a work in progress but have a great deal of faith that they are going to be running on all cylinders on both sides of the ball after Thanksgiving, and they will be a force in the play-offs. That could be overly optimistic but imo Belichick's track record in terms of coaching teams up to play their best down the homestretch is as good as it gets, and i think they have a really intelligent and really talented team and they should be able to take that coaching and become a great team.
 
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=85049&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR

Are you suggesting he grew an inch since his pro day?

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...200/quick-hit-thoughts-around-nfl-patriots-25

Are you suggesting he lied to Mike Reiss about his weight?

Yes nonsense, you posted a bunch of links from sites that get their inaccurate data from the same place, either the NFL or team sites. The same sites that have Wilfork as 325lbs.

The NFL and team sites from 2013 and 2014 plus Pro Football Reference are inaccurate BUT Frank Cooney's "College Football Draft Scout" is the one and only source for all NFL information? If you say so,Sybil6...by the way, that site lists his weight as TWO HUNDRED AND NINETEEN pounds...ooooops! NOT 230 as YOU declared arrogantly with such certainty. So you used this college scout site for his height and THEN a quote from Reiss that he weighs near 230 now and THOSE are the FACTS? The Patriots team, the Bucs team, the NFL itself, CBS Sports and on and on are WRONG and only Frank Cooney has the real truth, except about the weight, then it's something Mike Reiss "heard". Great. Glad you cleared that up.

Why even watch the NFL today on CBS or the NFLN Red Zone when the TRUTH about the NFL is on Frank Cooney's "College Football Draft Scout" site. What a tremendous revelation.
 
I'm not sure what is less impressive your football knowledge or your attempts to be funny. They are equally poor especially when you consider you spend 18-20 hours a day lurking on this board.

Do you actually believe that all the sites you posted show up with a tape measure and a scale?

You hang onto the time I left the G off the gung like you are a Mensa member. It was not funny the first time you said it so the 150th time is not either. Come up with some new material, this is just laziness.

Well, OK...you say you "just forgot" the g on the end of Gung...right...and THEN you ADDED the E to Ho...is that it? Or did you forget that already? I have YOUR printed words right here in a folder, but why further belabor the point...you wrote "Gun Hoe" because you so desperately wanted to create this tough guy military image for yourself here. Every single member here who has served in our armed services know this. Now you want everyone to believe you forgot the G and added the E and that doesn't mean anything. OK...fair enough...in fact, lets' just clear this all up right now so it is PERFECTLY CLEAR to everyone WHY you would print something so ludicrous and then try to defend it....THESE ARE YOUR WORDS...


Brady6 said:
Yeah actually, I have an anxiety panic disorder and OCD that I have been in treatment for since I was 15, it was compounded with some PTSD after 12 years in the Air Force in 4 tours oversea. I am not ashamed of it, and I do not think anyone who suffers from a mental illness should be, I also do not think you should make comments about not taking meds it is insensitive, you do not know what people are going through that read this board.


I don't know what you are going through. I'm guessing almost everyone here really has little idea. Instead of waging war everyday on everyone who sees things differently than you do, perhaps you should seek psychological help rather than confrontations with strangers on the internet.
 
Well, OK...you say you "just forgot" the g on the end of Gung...right...and THEN you ADDED the E to Ho...is that it? Or did you forget that already? I have YOUR printed words right here in a folder, but why further belabor the point...you wrote "Gun Hoe" because you so desperately wanted to create this tough guy military image for yourself here. Every single member here who has served in our armed services know this. Now you want everyone to believe you forgot the G and added the E and that doesn't mean anything. OK...fair enough...in fact, lets' just clear this all up right now so it is PERFECTLY CLEAR to everyone WHY you would print something so ludicrous and then try to defend it....THESE ARE YOUR WORDS...


Brady6 said:
Yeah actually, I have an anxiety panic disorder and OCD that I have been in treatment for since I was 15, it was compounded with some PTSD after 12 years in the Air Force in 4 tours oversea. I am not ashamed of it, and I do not think anyone who suffers from a mental illness should be, I also do not think you should make comments about not taking meds it is insensitive, you do not know what people are going through that read this board.


I don't know what you are going through. I'm guessing almost everyone here really has little idea. Instead of waging war everyday on everyone who sees things differently than you do, perhaps you should seek psychological help rather than confrontations with strangers on the internet.
Wow Joker, you really got it bad for me huh, I mean you remember everything I have ever posted. First, I was not in the military during Vietnam so gung-ho was not a commonly used phrase. I am not strong with grammar something I have said many times, so my misspelling something is not exactly shocking, and I type hoes into my phone frequently so it was likely auto correct.

As far as my tough guy image, that is your own insecurity because you feel threatened by anyone who has done something you have not. I do not try to portray any tough guy image, and my use of gun-hoe or gung-ho is meaningless to my serving in the USAF between 1998 thru 2010. The fact you attempted to connect them is just plain stupid, and desperate. If you would like to meet in person, let me know I will bring my military badge, and anything else you would like me to bring. I live just north of Boston so we can meet in Foxboro since you live in Rhode Island that way it is central. We can do it in a public place since I know you will need to feel secure.

Let’s wager on it though, if I show up with the badge and anything else you request, you sign off this board forever, deal?

I am not sure why you repost things I wrote 3 months ago, in this thread but clearly you have a hard on for me and at 4am you are laying in your bed thinking about Brady6, sort of odd, but hey to each their own. As far as what I am going through, I am just fine, and I do not wage war on everyone, read my posts, I get along with the respectful and rational posters just fine, I do not like you. I think you run your mouth and talk a lot of **** because behind a keyboard you feel safe, which in itself goes to show how ignorant you are to current day. I have attempt to make peace with you but you have no interest, you only have interest in showing off for the others on the board, because you are lonely, you have nobody in your life and this board is the only place where you feel like you have any social interaction. This entire board with the exception of 6-8 posters knows exactly what you are, they know that you will never bring any real value to any discussion that your only purpose is to make fun of something, post a dumb meme, make fun of Rodger Goodell, or posting some literary stupidity attempting to portray intelligence.

Why I wage war, well that is because you are a miserable and vindictive old man who intentionally tries to attack my creditability and my perception every chance he gets, so yes I take that personal and when you do it I fight back against your unprovoked attempts. You deserve it, you are an *******, you are obsessed with me and it really shines through in this post, you should consider physiological help because you need it a lot more than me, look at yourself, look at what you did here. Oh and for the record I have never started a war on here anything I post is in reaction to someone (you or a handful of other posters) making an unprovoked attack on me because they hold on to their grudge.
 
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The NFL and team sites from 2013 and 2014 plus Pro Football Reference are inaccurate BUT Frank Cooney's "College Football Draft Scout" is the one and only source for all NFL information? If you say so,Sybil6...by the way, that site lists his weight as TWO HUNDRED AND NINETEEN pounds...ooooops! NOT 230 as YOU declared arrogantly with such certainty. So you used this college scout site for his height and THEN a quote from Reiss that he weighs near 230 now and THOSE are the FACTS? The Patriots team, the Bucs team, the NFL itself, CBS Sports and on and on are WRONG and only Frank Cooney has the real truth, except about the weight, then it's something Mike Reiss "heard". Great. Glad you cleared that up.

Why even watch the NFL today on CBS or the NFLN Red Zone when the TRUTH about the NFL is on Frank Cooney's "College Football Draft Scout" site. What a tremendous revelation.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1689510/timothy-wright

That is his actual measurements taken on camera for scouts, team reps, and media, you cannot be that unknowledgeable that you do not understand how the draft process (combine/pro days) work.

How much weight have you gain since April 2013?
 
@Joker I will give you until the start of today’s game to respond whether or not you want to meet in person or something that indicates we are going to move forward in a different way. If I do not hear from you in some form by 1pm, today I will be placing you on ignore and not removing you, I am completely done with looking at your worthless posts and dealing with your nonsense, you are not worth my time, and certainly not worth losing from the enjoyment of the board to argue with.

@Ivan you were supposed to apologize for what you did with the “dislikes” the other day instead you have just made a point to dislike 2-3 of my posts per day. Obviously you are a vindictive man, which is fine, I am placing you on ignore, I would appreciate it if you did the same, if even after you are on ignore I notice that you continue to negatively rate my post I will go to Ian, you can find someone else to hold a grudge against.
 

By the way, the original Globe article is linked there (always good to get the source article) and is basically the same crap as here, Amendola doesn't know the routes, wait, he does but Brady doesn't like him, Brady doesn't think "receivers" are doing well enough in practice etc.

In context, LaFell's remarks look less bad. He says his role was to block in a game where the defense rolled and they ran the ball (duh). He said he was frustrated, but he likely isn't used to Belichick robot speak yet.

Bottom line is, we have too many capable receivers right now. How is that bad, I wonder?
 
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