The 2014 Edition : Jets continue to suck (what else is new)

Kontradiction · Sep 19, 2014

Rob0729 said:
Stop me if you heard this one before. Dee Milliner is injured again and may not play this week:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8325/dee-milliner

Here is a little suggestion to the Jets. If you have a top ten pick, trade down. Milliner is quickly becoming yet another top ten pick that is either a major disappointment or an outright bust. Not Veron Gholston bad, but he is looking to be bust potential.

D'Bustashaw Ferguson was drafted #4 overall as well.

Rob0729 · Sep 19, 2014

KontradictioN said:
D'Bustashaw Ferguson was drafted #4 overall as well.

Mark Sanchez was #5 overall. They have had four top ten picks in the last 11 years and so far not one of them stuck with the team for more than 4-5 years and were better than an average starter.

BradyFTW! · Sep 19, 2014

KontradictioN said:
D'Bustashaw Ferguson was drafted #4 overall as well.

Ferguson never quite lived up to his draft status, but he was a pretty good LT for a long time. Far from a bust. Since 2000, they've picked the following guys in the top 10:

#4 in 2003: DeWayne Robertson (complete and utter bust)
#4 in 2006: D'Brickashaw Ferguson (longtime starter and good LT)
#6 in 2008: Vernon Gholston (busted about as hard as a bust can bust)
#5 in 2009: Mark Sanchez (almost as bad as Gholston)
#9 in 2013: Dee Milliner (jury's still out, but looks like **** so far)

Organizationally, they do much better work in the teens. That's where they got Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington, Santana Moss, Jonathan Vilma, Darrelle Revis, Sheldon Richardson, and Quinton Coples/Calvin Pryor (jury's still out on both of them).

Somehow that seems so very Jets-like of them. It's like they can only take someone good once the top 10 teams have picked all the busts that they really wanted.

Kontradiction · Sep 19, 2014

BradyFTW! said:
Ferguson never quite lived up to his draft status, but he was a pretty good LT for a long time. Far from a bust. Since 2000, they've picked the following guys i nthe top 10:

#4 in 2003: DeWayne Robertson (complete and utter bust)
#4 in 2006: D'Brickashaw Ferguson (longtime starter and good LT)
#6 in 2008: Vernon Gholston (busted about as hard as a bust can bust)
#5 in 2009: Mark Sanchez (almost as bad as Gholston)
#9 in 2013: Dee Milliner (jury's still out, but looks like **** so far).

Organizationally, they do much better work in the teens. That's where they got Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington, Santana Moss, Jonathan Vilma, Darrelle Revis, Sheldon Richardson, and Quinton Coples/Calvin Pryor (jury's still out on both of them).

Somehow that seems so very Jets-like of them. It's like they can only take someone good once the top 10 teams have picked all the busts that they really wanted.

If you're drafting a LT at #4, he damn sure better be one of the best LT's in the NFL. Ferguson was solid, but never anywhere near the best in the league (in spite of his Pro Bowl status while he played on an OL that was otherwise stacked). He's probably not a bust, though. It's just good fun to manipulate his ridiculous name. But he never lived up to anywhere near his draft stock, though. You can generally get what he gives you in round 2.

Rusty Coupe · Sep 20, 2014

Rex is making guarantees again

The Jets host the Bears on Monday night, the first time they’ve been home for a nationally televised game since the 49-19 Thanksgiving disaster in 2012. That memory prompted Rex Ryan to do something he has refrained from doing for quite a while: make a guarantee.

“Was that the New England fiasco?” Ryan said. “Yeah let’s hope that doesn’t happen again, yikes. It won’t be hard to -show better than that. I guarantee we play better that. Talk about going out on a limb.”

It doesn't appear he has quite gotten over these

It’s not quite predicting a trip to the Super Bowl, but at least it was an old-fashioned Ryan guarantee. Of course, that wasn’t Ryan’s only nightmare that happened at a night game.

“Then we had another great performance — remember we got beat, 45-3, also, and I think that was a Monday night game,” Ryan said, referring to a loss in New England in 2010.

Rex Ryan: On national TV, NY Jets will no longer show cracks - NY Daily News

Mike the Brit · Sep 20, 2014

Rusty Coupe said:
Rex is making guarantees again
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...-tv-jets-longer-show-cracks-article-1.1945193

It's great that Rex still remembers the most enjoyable game -- in fact, the most enjoyable minute -- in Patriots history. Good times, buddy, good times!

Rob0729 · Sep 20, 2014

BradyFTW! said:
Ferguson never quite lived up to his draft status, but he was a pretty good LT for a long time. Far from a bust. Since 2000, they've picked the following guys i nthe top 10:

#4 in 2003: DeWayne Robertson (complete and utter bust)
#4 in 2006: D'Brickashaw Ferguson (longtime starter and good LT)
#6 in 2008: Vernon Gholston (busted about as hard as a bust can bust)
#5 in 2009: Mark Sanchez (almost as bad as Gholston)
#9 in 2013: Dee Milliner (jury's still out, but looks like **** so far).

Organizationally, they do much better work in the teens. That's where they got Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington, Santana Moss, Jonathan Vilma, Darrelle Revis, Sheldon Richardson, and Quinton Coples/Calvin Pryor (jury's still out on both of them).

Somehow that seems so very Jets-like of them. It's like they can only take someone good once the top 10 teams have picked all the busts that they really wanted.

In fairness, Robertson was not a complete and utter bust. He was a decent player for a period of time. He would have been a decent second round pick. He was a really bad top 5 pick, but if the Jets drafted him in the second round people would have said it wasn't a bad pick. I wouldn't call him a complete and utter bust, but a mild bust.

PatsFanInVa · Sep 20, 2014

What with the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson things... how long until every team that plays the JEST get rounded up for abusing women?

Mike the Brit · Sep 20, 2014

Rob0729 said:
In fairness, Robertson was not a complete and utter bust.

I don't want to sound unappreciative, but I do think that the phrase "in fairness" should only be used ironically in this thread.

So, for example, "In fairness, negating a game-tying touchdown by an inadvertently called time-out is nothing unusually embarrassing for the Jets."

Joker · Sep 20, 2014

In unfairness, the Jets STILL suck, have sucked and will eternally suck, universe without end...amen

ewg_gestalt · Sep 20, 2014

Mike the Brit said:
It's great that Rex still remembers the most enjoyable game -- in fact, the most enjoyable minute -- in Patriots history. Good times, buddy, good times!

Mike, I'm afraid you're the one conflating two wonderfully epic moments in Patriots history: the 2010 whupping of the Jets (45-3), and the Thanksgiving Day Party chez Jets, when the Jets imploded in the most spectacular sixty seconds in NFL history (offensive, defensive, and special teams meltdowns in a Same Old Jets trifecta of failure).

JMC00 · Sep 20, 2014

BradyFTW! said:
#6 in 2008: Vernon Gholston (busted about as hard as a bust can bust)

Ah yes Vernon Gholston. The one thing I will always be reminded of when he is mentioned is watching SNY and seeing a couple of jests totes basically orgasming because the jests took Gholston at #6 and stole him from the Pats and that's why they traded down and were stuck with "severely reaching" on Jerod Mayo.

Mike the Brit · Sep 20, 2014

ewg_gestalt said:
Mike, I'm afraid you're the one conflating two wonderfully epic moments in Patriots history: the 2010 whupping of the Jets (45-3), and the Thanksgiving Day Party chez Jets, when the Jets imploded in the most spectacular sixty seconds in NFL history (offensive, defensive, and special teams meltdowns in a Same Old Jets trifecta of failure).

Didn't he mention them both? Of course, the 2010 game was wonderful too -- though the end of that season shouldn't be mentioned here.

Tunescribe · Sep 20, 2014

Rob0729 said:
In fairness,

No thank you.

ctpatsfan77 · Sep 20, 2014

Joker said:
In unfairness, the Jets STILL suck, have sucked and will eternally suck, universe without end...amen

I think the Latin version is In suckulorum suckula. . . .

ctpatsfan77 · Sep 20, 2014

JMC00 said:
Ah yes Vernon Gholston. The one thing I will always be reminded of when he is mentioned is watching SNY and seeing a couple of jests totes basically orgasming because the jests took Gholston at #7 and stole him from the Pats and that's why they traded down and were stuck with "severely reaching" on Jerod Mayo.

Minor point:" the JEST had #6, the Pats had #7, then traded down with the Saints to #10. Of course, according to Michael Holley, the Pats had their sights set on Mayo all along.

BradyFTW! · Sep 20, 2014

ctpatsfan77 said:
Minor point:" the JEST had #6, the Pats had #7, then traded down with the Saints to #10. Of course, according to Michael Holley, the Pats had their sights set on Mayo all along.

I have trouble recalling who it was--I think Don Banks--but for a few years there was a writer who seemed to have some pretty solid sources into the Patriots draft room. He correctly predicted a few picks that the team made around that time, including Darius Butler and a few others. Anyway, I bring it up because he said a few days before the draft that the Pats were taking Mayo, so I'm inclined to believe that.

JMC00 · Sep 20, 2014

ctpatsfan77 said:
Minor point:" the JEST had #6, the Pats had #7, then traded down with the Saints to #10. Of course, according to Michael Holley, the Pats had their sights set on Mayo all along.

Typo. Fixed now.

Mike the Brit · Sep 22, 2014

I know that it's been a stressful weekend but it's Monday and time to get back in touch with reality. So let's face it: the Jets suck!

BritPat · Sep 22, 2014

BradyFTW! said:
I have trouble recalling who it was--I think Don Banks--but for a few years there was a writer who seemed to have some pretty solid sources into the Patriots draft room. He correctly predicted a few picks that the team made around that time, including Darius Butler and a few others. Anyway, I bring it up because he said a few days before the draft that the Pats were taking Mayo, so I'm inclined to believe that.

I remember drafting Mayo in the 3rd round of the Draft forum Mock that year (I was the Bengals) and telling everyone he was a stud and the Pats would take him if given the chance.

Still feel quite smug about it

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