Roger Goodell Press Conference

How else does one explain Bob Kraft's preposterous statement "Roger is doing a wonderful job!" just last week. The Billionaire Boys Club has the PERFECT catspaw to assuage their insatiable greed. All they needed was for little Lord Fauntleroydell to NOT step on his dyck.....but there it is.

The owners pay Goodell. He has performed well in their eyes over his years as an employee. When he fails to do what they wish, he will be fired and go away with his tens of well-earned millions. Until then, he will do his job. And he will make many mistakes. And he will do many. many things that message board posters dislike.

Fans or sponsors who don't like the job Goodell (and the owners who support him) can certainly move their allegiances elsewhere and not watch the perceived terrible product which is NFL football.

For the rest of us, we will watch every game we can when our team plays for as long as we live. For the rest of us, NFL football is the best entertainment on earth. Many of us have little interest in any other sport. For those of you who must leave, I hope that you will enjoy your other sports.
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The NFL's reaction to OFF THE FIELD behavior will change over time. It has already changed in the past month with regard to drugs and to abuse. More changes are coming. I do not envy the NFL's job of having to be the moral police for society. I thought that we had other institutions for that function. So, now the local government, state government, federal government, teams and the NFL all must have their own appropriate punishments for off-the field misbehavior. I guess that it the world we live in. Personally, I think that the NFL will rue the day when they decided on banning players for the second offense at any non-capital conviction.

Joker said:

How else does one explain Bob Kraft's preposterous statement "Roger is doing a wonderful job!" just last week. The Billionaire Boys Club has the PERFECT catspaw to assuage their insatiable greed. All they needed was for little Lord Fauntleroydell to NOT step on his dyck.....but there it is.

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The way extreme wealth tends to insulate otherwise well-meaning folks from realities of the human condition appears to be the real disconnect here. The best thing NFL owners could do would be to appoint a truly independent commissioner, whose stewardship on behalf of the game and its fans would be priority one. (Yes, I know this is a pipe dream, but it just might be what the NFL needs to save it from itself.)

No one wants to leave as a fan of this sport. Jeezus, WTF is THAT about? We want HIM to leave. The contentious ,arrogant, bumbling, monocular bull in the NFL china shop.His continued presence as titular head of this league is a slap in YOUR face as well as every single other longtime, diehard football fan.
An out take from his dog and pony show this afternoon...

Goodell did not answer a question by a reporter from TMZ, the website that first published the video, on why the N.F.L. could not get the video from the Atlantic City hotel and casino where the episode occurred. “We got it with one phone call,” the reporter said. “You have a whole legal department.”

No answer? Why not? The whole country wants THAT answer FROM him. He KNOWS this. Still he's playing Ubermarshal Goodell, master of all he surveys and answerable to no one.

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Goodell said at the news conference that he did not believe the league was close to losing a sponsor.

The criticism grew while Goodell stayed silent, his letter to the teams Thursday being his first large-scale communication in nine day"

sounds like the last days of WWII and the Wolf's Lair communiques claiming world domination was imminent.

Tunescribe said:

The media did not create the transgressions of Rice, Hardy and Peterson, nor did it mishandle them in the context of those players' NFL employment. This is far from a witch hunt -- it's the media shedding light on Goodell's bumbling and lies in his attempts to cover for the owners' $$$-driven situational ethics.

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There's no evidence I've heard of any lies, to be honest. Only that someone in law enforcement illegally sent the 2nd video to some female within the NFL offices, which nobody senior was ever proven to have seen or been made aware of (of course it's now a media "fact" that Goodell saw that tape back then). That's the extent of the cover-up/lies. And a couple of weeks later Rice was given a nuclear punishment. Where's the bfd, seriously?

40yrpatsfan said:

Thank you, my view exactly. I'm not a Goodell rooter, and think he blundered with Spygate badly. But the media in general, and sports commentators in particular, are just out of control and have totally manufactured a witch hunt here. Totally sick of their sanctimonious bs. They're only interested in filling their show with a controversy no matter how lame.

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Roger started with the sanctimony years ago. It's only fitting that he be hoist by his own petard.

Read the latest ESPN piece...

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...l-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl

Most sources spoke with "Outside the Lines" on the condition of anonymity, citing the NFL's just-launched, self-described independent investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the former FBI chief, which is being overseen by John Mara, the New York Giants' owner, and Art Rooney II, the Pittsburgh Steelers' co-owner. Mara and Rooney are close confidants of Goodell's. The interviews, viewed together, paint a picture of a league and a franchise whose actions -- and inaction -- combined to conceal -- or ignore -- the graphic violence of Rice's assault. When evidence of it surfaced anyway, the NFL and the Ravens quickly shifted gears and simultaneously attempted to pin the blame on Rice and his alleged lack of truthfulness with Goodell about what had happened inside the elevator.

where you been...on vacation to Antarctica?

Tunescribe said:

The way extreme wealth tends to insulate otherwise well-meaning folks from realities of the human condition appears to be the real disconnect here. The best thing NFL owners could do would be to appoint a truly independent commissioner, whose stewardship on behalf of the game and its fans would be priority one. (Yes, I know this is a pipe dream, but it just might be what the NFL needs to save it from itself.)

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The smart thing to say is that policing crime is going to be left to the .......


police.



Naturally, these idiots have instead chosen to go in the other direction. SJWs win again. Freedoms, American principles and common sense take yet another hit.

40yrpatsfan said:

There's no evidence I've heard of any lies, to be honest. Only that someone in law enforcement illegally sent the 2nd video to some female within the NFL offices, which nobody senior was ever proven to have seen or been made aware of (of course it's now a media "fact" that Goodell saw that tape back then). That's the extent of the cover-up/lies. And a couple of weeks later Rice was given a nuclear punishment. Where's the bfd, seriously?

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Goodell lies, avoids, and obfuscates continuously. You need to really follow things closely to pick up on it, because he's a very smooth talker. I suggest reading today's thorough and well-done ESPN "Outside the Lines" expose and also check out Keith Olbermann's commentary on Roger's press conference.

Great news, though, everybody. In a press conference about recent incidents, Goodell pointed out that the NFL will ensure diversity. That's going to be the key to fixing all of this.

Hail, Roger!

What's laughable is this goondell is going to MANDATE that 100% of NFL players spend months of the year attending domestic violence classes and sexual assault conferences. It's just insane. 2000 players and a dozen bad apples....100% bullshyt compliance or what? You get suspended? Suppose Brady laughs at this ridiculous dictum? The goon will suspend HIM for the year?

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What's laughable is this goondell is going to MANDATE that 100% of NFL players spend months of the year attending domestic violence classes and sexual assault conferences. It's just insane. 2000 players and a dozen bad apples....100% bullshyt compliance or what? You get suspended? Suppose Brady laughs at this ridiculous dictum? The goon will suspend HIM for the year?

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Roger can't get out of his own way. All this does is encourage the false belief that football players are an inherent danger to society and must be dealt with accordingly. "Don't fret America. We're on top of this scourge and have lined up many experts in the field to assist in education, remedial sessions, blah, blah, blabbidy blah ... "

Tunescribe said:

The media did not create the transgressions of Rice, Hardy and Peterson, nor did it mishandle them in the context of those players' NFL employment. This is far from a witch hunt -- it's the media shedding light on Goodell's bumbling and lies in his attempts to cover for the owners' $$$-driven situational ethics.

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Tune, I think these two items can and do coexist. There is no doubt Rice's actions, the subsequent leniency, the subsequent higher detail video, the potential coverup of the video is a story in and of itself. With that said, there's little doubt in my mind there is also a righteous march of the media machine going on -- and this beast doesn't care about thoughtfulness or what's most fair. And these lops aren't just looking to hang RG, whether he may deserve it, they'll be looking to cast a wider net to see who they can sweep up into the fray. Brady, for example, has already been, albeit just a little, had his honor and compassion put into question simply because he chose to stay out of the media machine beast.

As far as RG, Deus hit the nail on the absolute head. RG has repeatedly played the 'if the media doesn't like it then I'll drop the hammer even harder on a player' while, often, significantly disregarding the fairness of the issue.
So I say to RG, welcome to the beast you helped fatten!

Deus Irae said:

The smart thing to say is that policing crime is going to be left to the .......


police.



Naturally, these idiots have instead chosen to go in the other direction. SJWs win again. Freedoms, American principles and common sense take yet another hit.

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The problem with this is that this isn't how a single multi-billion dollar corporation in America dealing with extremely high compensation high profile employees deals with things.

Deus Irae said:

Great news, though, everybody. In a press conference about recent incidents, Goodell pointed out that the NFL will ensure diversity. That's going to be the key to fixing all of this.

Hail, Roger!

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You have got to be kidding me?? I'm an awful person, obviously, as I ignore almost all media regarding this (and many other) story. So RG actually pulled out the race card to garner PC points with the media beast? Wow, just wow.....

rochrist said:

The problem with this is that this isn't how a single multi-billion dollar corporation in America dealing with extremely high compensation high profile employees deals with things.

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The NFL is NOT the employer of the NFL players. Players are employed by the individual teams.

Tunescribe said:

and also check out Keith Olbermann's commentary on Roger's press conference.

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I'd rather get a root canal without novacaine than sit through a Keith Olbermann commentary on ANYTHING....

Deus Irae said:

For about the 1 millionth time......

The NFL is NOT the employer of the NFL players. Players are employed by the individual teams.

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Then why does the NFLPA negotiate with the NFL?

rochrist said:

Then why does the NFLPA negotiate with the NFL?

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The NFL handles the collective bargaining forthe NFL owners, just as the NFLPA is the collective bargaining arm of the NFL players. Teams are the employers. Here's some case law for you:

We note that the matter of who is the employer of an NFL player was addressed in Brown v. Nat’l Football League, 219 F. Supp. 2d 372 (S.D.N.Y. 2002). There, a former NFL player brought a personal injury action in state court against the NFL, seeking damages for a career-ending eye injury he sustained during a game when a referee threw a penalty flag that struck the player in the eye. Id. at 375. The district court observed, “At the time of his injury, Brown worked not for the NFL, but for the Cleveland Browns Football Company, a Delaware limited partnership and an entirely separate entity which happens to be a member of the NFL.” Id. at 383. The owners of NFL teams “own franchises in the NFL and employ the nion members as football players.”

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Williams v. NFL, Nos. 09-2247/2462/2249 (8th Cir. Sep. 11, 2009), slip op. at 18-19 n.12, cert. denied, No. 09-1380 (U.S. Dec. 14, 2009).

http://yunkerpark.blogspot.com/2011/04/nfl-players-are-employees-of-their.html

Deus Irae said:

The NFL is the collective bargaining arm of the NFL owners, just as the NFLPA is the collective bargaining arm of the NFL players. Teams are the employers. Here's some case law for you:



Williams v. NFL, Nos. 09-2247/2462/2249 (8th Cir. Sep. 11, 2009), slip op. at 18-19 n.12, cert. denied, No. 09-1380 (U.S. Dec. 14, 2009).

http://yunkerpark.blogspot.com/2011/04/nfl-players-are-employees-of-their.html

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Nice redirect. Part of the structure of the association is to grant the league the right and responsibility to discipline BOTH player and employees.