Roger Goodell Press Conference

Deus Irae · Sep 19, 2014

within hours of the elevator attack, an employee of the Ravens was describing the inside-elevator video to friends in graphic detail, telling confidants that Rice knocked out his then-fiancée with a punch and that the video was "really bad," according to a source close to a Ravens official.

PATS16N0 · Sep 19, 2014

Half way through Deus's article and it's sounding like Baltimore should be losing a boat load of draft picks.

SB39 · Sep 19, 2014

Deus Irae said:
Roger's seat is about to get even warmer:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...l-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl

Fascinating article that sheds a lot of light on things. Interesting to note is that Harbaugh, who has certainly taken his share of criticism, lobbied for the Ravens to release Rice immediately (and this is following the video we all originally saw, not the one of the punch itself).

Deus Irae · Sep 19, 2014

With his wife sitting by his side in a conference room, Rice told Goodell that he hit her and knocked her out, according to four sources. Cass and Newsome spoke on Rice's behalf. So did Janay, who emotionally asked Goodell not to impose a penalty on Rice that would take away their livelihood and besmirch his name. At the end of the meeting, according to several sources, Goodell invited Ray and Janay to have a brief private chat with him in his office; during the conversation, the commissioner spoke about how Ray Rice could be a spokesman in the future against domestic violence, the sources said. Rice later told friends the commissioner spent the majority of the meeting discussing Rice's reputation as a positive role model in the community.

Four sources, however, told "Outside the Lines" that Rice gave Goodell a truthful account that he struck his fiancée. Furthermore, it would seem that if Rice had given an "ambiguous" account, sources say Goodell had even more incentive to try to obtain a copy of the in-elevator video to clear up any lingering questions.

Aßßynormal · Sep 19, 2014

PATS16N0 said:
Half way through Deus's article and it's sounding like Baltimore should be losing a boat load of draft picks.

I hope not, this penalizes the Fans for, potentially, years. Fine the cr@p out of them but leave the picks alone.

SB39 · Sep 19, 2014

Tunescribe said:
No, the media loves to do its job of exposing crooks and phonies, not just take down powerful people/organizations for the sake of it.

The media would not be pursuing this story a fraction as vigorously as they are now if it was any other league.

ausbacker · Sep 19, 2014

SB39 said:
I like Condoleeza Rice but she knows nothing about running a sports league so I can't say I endorse her for the position.
The media loves taking down powerful people and/or organizations, so that's when they pretend to have morals.

Where were ESPN's morals when they hired Chris Brown to make a video for the ESPY's? What Chris Brown did to Rihanna makes Ray Rice look like a boy scout.

Rice would be an interesting choice for commissioner however, how long would it take the media to turn on her and accuse her of being the "War Crimes Commissioner"? Hell, Rutgers students didn't seem to mind bring up the politics of the Bush administration.

The media has their own agenda. As long as they get clicks or an engaged viewer, they really don't care.

Tunescribe · Sep 19, 2014

SB39 said:
The media would not be pursuing this story a fraction as vigorously as they are now if it was any other league.

I don't see how you can say that. If it was the NBA or MLB, especially if occurring in-season, coverage would be similar. It's not like the media created what's going on vs. simply reporting about it. That includes looking beneath the surface for obfuscated facts.

rochrist · Sep 19, 2014

That article is damning.

MrNathanDrake · Sep 19, 2014

Too bad for AP. He's had a HOF career and this is going to hurt his numbers.

Joker · Sep 19, 2014

SB39 said:
The media would not be pursuing this story a fraction as vigorously as they are now if it was any other league.

heh...yeah..."the poor NFL and MY Roger are being persecuted!!! PERSECUTED I TELL YA'!!!"....

future history book....

SB39 · Sep 19, 2014

Tunescribe said:
I don't see how you can say that. If it was the NBA or MLB, especially if occurring in-season, coverage would be similar.

You have got to be kidding.

Thanks for the laugh!

FrodoBagginz · Sep 19, 2014

Aßßynormal said:
I hope not, this penalizes the Fans for, potentially, years.

The same fans that wore Rice jersey's in the stadium during a game after the story broke out?

Tunescribe · Sep 19, 2014

SB39 said:
You have got to be kidding.

Thanks for the laugh!

Support your assertion with more than opinion and we'll discuss further. Otherwise, consult the nearest mirror for additional chuckles.

SB39 · Sep 19, 2014

Tunescribe said:
Support your assertion with more than opinion and we'll discuss further. Otherwise, consult the nearest mirror for additional chuckles.

Only a moron would dispute the notion that the more popular the league, the bigger the scandal and the more attention generated (all else being equal). You think the NHL or MLS would get as much media attention if something like that happened? Of course not (and I notice you left them off your list). MLB and NBA are more popular than the NHL and MLS but certainly not as popular as the NFL.

Mack Herron · Sep 19, 2014

Bill Simmons take on the ESPN story:

Bill Simmons shared a link.
18 minutes ago
Terrific reporting here. This feature should have been headlined, "Game, Set, Match on the Goodell Era." It's amazing how people never learn from the lessons of history - parts of this story mirror some classic political scandals over the years. There is no way Goodell will survive this. Will be interested to see how Baltimore fans handle it, too. Their owner and his direct reports come off horrendously. Wow. Definitely read this story.

Crononaut · Sep 19, 2014

Tunescribe said:
Actually, he'd be a fool NOT to resign. Why put up with the aggravation when he already has all the money he'll ever need to live in complete luxury? Hell, maybe he could come up with something actually productive to do for a change. But then, Roger is a hollow shell of a man -- the closest our world has come to producing a human corporate Muppet.

I agree. I think his purpose in this world has been so defined by this role that at this point he needs it simply to exist. If someone were to remove his title...

ausbacker · Sep 19, 2014

Mack Herron said:
Bill Simmons take on the ESPN story:

I kind of like Bill Simmons given he's a Boston fanboy but he shouldn't be viewed as an authority. He's a fan in a journalist's coat and often has difficulty making that distinction.

Mack Herron · Sep 19, 2014

FrodoBagginz said:
The same fans that wore Rice jersey's in the stadium during a game after the story broke out?

No, no. These fans:

Thousands of Ravens fans lined up outside M&T Bank Stadium on Friday morning to exchange their replica Ray Rice jerseys and cut ties with the former star running back who was once one of the team's most popular players.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...rice-jersey-exchange-20140919,0,1536011.story

Tunescribe · Sep 19, 2014

SB39 said:
Only a moron would dispute the notion that the more popular the league, the bigger the scandal and the more attention generated (all else being equal). You think the NHL or MLS would get as much media attention if something like that happened? Of course not (and I notice you left them off your list). MLB and NBA are more popular than the NHL and MLS but certainly not as popular as the NFL.

You need to be clear on what you're trying to talk about. By claiming "the media would not be pursuing this story a fraction as vigorously" if it was another sports league, you appear to imply (the media) has an inordinately zealous agenda against the NFL because it's football. If, instead, you're saying the media devoted more resources because the NFL is tops in fan popularity and income, perhaps so.

But again, the media did not create what happened re., Rice, Hardy, Peterson, etc. The facts are there to be had and reported and would've been reported just the same if the players played baseball, hockey, basketball or croquet. The "scandal" is not "bigger" because it's the NFL. The facts would be the same regardless of sport.

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