Amendola

Pessimistic Pete said:

Danny Amendola is the #1 highest paid receiver on the 2014 Patriots
Danny Amendola has the 3rd highest cap hit on the 2014 Patriots offense.
Danny Amendola is the 9th highest paid receiver in the AFC for the 2014 season

He is not some project receiver we drafted in the 7th. He a big money free agent acquisition that has proven to be an awful signing in many ways.

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Not as awful as Ochocinco's contract. Or Hernandez'.

Brady6 said:

Since the end of the Dolphins game in week 15 when Amendola misplayed the potential game winning pass Brady has targeted Amendola at total of 18 times in 6 games, which equates to 3 targets per game, to put that in perspective in that game against the Dolphins the ball Amendola misplayed was his 14th target of that game. What I am getting at is it is very clear that Brady does not have the highest level of confidence in Amendola and prefers to throw the ball elsewhere. Similar to when Chad Johnson dropped the touchdown against the Bills in 2011, and Brady seldom went back to him again that season.

Amendola has 9 catches in his last 6 games, you need to stop trying to pass the buck to other players when clearly Amendola is the reason for his own failure.

If a QB does not have confidence in them then it is likely a result of them letting the QB down, so it is there fault.

I do not think I have ever once said anything about Emmanuel Sanders in the last year so I really do not have a clue what you are referring to.

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So you're saying the same thing I am, but accusing me of defending him.

If Brady doesn't have confidence in anyone but Gronk and Edelman, then guess what? We're getting blown out in the postseason again.

All I said was that some in the media who are looking at film have commented that DA has been open a lot, while Brady is forcing it elsewhere. If YOU prefer Brady throwing to a doubled Gronk than a wide open DA, then you're an idiot. If no one was saying DA was getting open, I'd agree with you. but no one's saying that.

I have thought for YEARS now - pre-DA - that Brady has developed binkie'itis and it's killing the Pats when they go against good defenses. The old Brady spread it around. The new Brady is cooking comfort food, and that ain't good.

And yes, DA should be cut if he won't renegotiate if things keep going like this. He's not worth the money he's being paid given the way he's being used, IMO. then again, NO ONE today got more than 2 targets other than Edelman and Gronk (7 and 6 respectively).

I wasn't talking to you at all on Manny Sanders. other people are chiming in that he would have changed things. he's a good receiver but not a great receiver.

I loved DA when we signed him. But if that spot isn't catching passes I'd prefer the upside of Tyms or Boyce.

BelichickFan said:

I loved DA when we signed him. But if that spot isn't catching passes I'd prefer the upside of Tyms or Boyce.

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I would NOT prefer Tyms or Boyce as slot receivers.

Brady6 I have alot of respect for your reflections and think your posts are for the most part intelligent and informative. When it comes to Amendola you fly off the train tracks. My little piece of advice, let him train wreck on his own.

We are all seeing it. You don't need to advertise with balloons, whistles and a ticker-tape parade. I wanted to root for him. That's my gut talking. My brain is telling me to agree with your assumption. I just have a hard time rooting against guys in such a vociferous manner. Hell, I wanted Ocho to succeed here. Haynesworth, Jonathan Sullivan among others I thought we could revive. Just didn't happen.

You take a shot and sometimes you get a Randy Moss or Corey Dillon with gas left in the tank. Sometimes you get bunk.

mgteich said:

I would NOT prefer Tyms or Boyce as slot receivers.

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Agree but unless TB12 throws to him it makes little difference. Maybe if #11 got hurt things would be different. Hopefully we won't find out.

KT > Amendola

Bench him against da Raiiiders

Brady6 said:

I am more concerned with the fact he is trending for a 50% catch ratio, 48 catches, and a whopping 256 yards. The 256 yards is significantly off pace from last season. That is if he plays all 16 games too.

I was told he was going to be better when he was healthy, was that not what you and the others said? Now I should not complain if he does what he did last year again? I thought the groin was the only reason he had those numbers last season.

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Brady6 said:

@supafly honestly I like you I do not want to keep going back and forth and have this cause animosity between us, Amendola is not worth it. I would have liked it if posters did what they said they were going to do in regards to Amendola, clearly that is not going to happen and 2014 will be a repeat of 2013 in which case, it is what it is. I guess I just expect posters to stand true to their words, but they do not have to so to each their own.

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I mean....if you're looking for an admittance from me personally, regarding Danny Amendola--then I will gladly give it to you. There are many things that I am incorrect on throughout the year, especially when you consider how many different subject matters we address. I felt that Amendola would produce just as much, if not more than last year's 54 catches over the course of the season, and have been proven wrong through the first....2 weeks.

I should feel ashamed that he's only on pace for 48 catches, instead of 54. I am wrong, and you are right.

What YOU are failing to admit to, is that I've said many times throughout the offseason that I actually agreed with you in regards to Amendola being too expensive and not worth his pact. The thing is, there's not much that anyone can do about it, so all we can try to do is stay positive and trust a coach who is 5th on the all-time wins list. These bigger type deals take a couple of years until you get into the black again, so they'll likely cut him in the offseason.

Who cares? This threads sucks anyway.

I just don't understand the point of wanting people to admit their "wrongs" when today alone (in a 30-7 win) saw:

--Aaron Dobson catch 1 ball for 13 yds

--Tim Wright targeted once

--Thompkins inactive

--Gronk with a total of 32 yards

--Vereen spent the majority on the sidelines

--LaFell not even targeted




Where does Danny Amendola stick out from this grouping? Oh yeah, he's actually been the one player besides Julian Edelman to have made a big play in the past couple of games, only to be called back by the new "pick play" rule--in BOTH games so far.

Singling out Danny Amendola to "prove a point" to the rest of the forum is silly.

supafly said:

I just don't understand the point of wanting people to admit their "wrongs" when today alone (in a 30-7 win) saw:

--Aaron Dobson catch 1 ball for 13 yds

--Tim Wright targeted once

--Thompkins inactive

--Gronk with a total of 32 yards

--Vereen spent the majority on the sidelines

--LaFell not even targeted




Where does Danny Amendola stick out from this grouping? Oh yeah, he's actually been the one player besides Julian Edelman to have made a big play in the past couple of games, only to be called back by the new "pick play" rule--in BOTH games so far.

Singling out Danny Amendola to "prove a point" to the rest of the forum is silly.

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Yep, this offense looks as out of sync right now as it did last season at this time and i am surprised by that but given that they have never failed to get it together i think it's just going to require patience. It all starts up front and until they have the offensive line functioning properly it will be hard to develop an offensive identity and and some explosiveness.

Any chance Amendola is biding his time and is gonna break out over the next few weeks?

Everyone complains when the guy gets injured. He's injury prone! He plays one game and is injured for the season.

Well, Danny Amendola is proving the haters wrong.
Two games, and he isn't even nicked up! How about that!

From what ive seen Amendola = wast of money

Mack Herron said:

Not as awful as Ochocinco's contract. Or Hernandez'.

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Johnson did not have that bad of a contract, 3 years/$11.5M and then he restructured it after one season. Hernandez is a completely different situation and his contract was not bad based on his play, but because of his off field activities.

Mack Herron said:

Not as awful as Ochocinco's contract. Or Hernandez'.

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Ochocino(2011) 15-276(18.4avg)
Amendola(2014 pace) 24-128(5.3avg)

supafly said:

I just don't understand the point of wanting people to admit their "wrongs" when today alone (in a 30-7 win) saw:

--Aaron Dobson catch 1 ball for 13 yds

--Tim Wright targeted once

--Thompkins inactive

--Gronk with a total of 32 yards

--Vereen spent the majority on the sidelines

--LaFell not even targeted

Where does Danny Amendola stick out from this grouping? Oh yeah, he's actually been the one player besides Julian Edelman to have made a big play in the past couple of games, only to be called back by the new "pick play" rule--in BOTH games so far.

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It is not about proving a point, and it is not about me being told I was right, or posters admitting they were wrong. It is about you doing in this post the exact thing that you and others said you would not do this season if Amendola underperformed, and that is excuses his performance or try to justify his performance. Then you go as far as to say Amendola made big plays as if to imply if not for some third party factor things would have been different, that is just untrue, last week LaFell knocked the DB out cold, and this week Dobson did just about the same. The plays were illegal and the only reason that Amendola was able to get open and make them, and I think the severity of the interference would have been called last season as well at least the LaFell play.

Singling out Danny Amendola to "prove a point" to the rest of the forum is silly.

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I did not open this thread, I expected Amendola to do little this season and was very vocal about it, I would not even be talking about Amendola except for the fact that I take issue with posters doing the same thing they did in reaction to Amendola last season again this season especially after most stated they would not.

patriot1136 said:

Any chance Amendola is biding his time and is gonna break out over the next few weeks?

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If Amendola is such a small factor now imagine how much smaller he will be when Gronkowski and Dobson are healthier, LaFell is more comfortable in the offense, and Wright understands the offense. Things are not going to get better for him, he had his opportunity and he wasted it, now he is just a bottom of the roster WR.

Brady6 said:

Johnson did not have that bad of a contract, 3 years/$11.5M and then he restructured it after one season. Hernandez is a completely different situation and his contract was not bad based on his play, but because of his off field activities.

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I agree. My only point would be that all contracts are risks and there are good ones and bad ones. At the time it was signed, most people thought Amendola's contract was reasonable.

Nehalem said:

Ochocino(2011) 15-276(18.4avg)
Amendola(2014 pace) 24-128(5.3avg)

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A tad early to make full season projections but I am in full agreement that his production has not been good. I would guess that many are disappointed with his production so far. Some reasons, such as injury, are difficult to predict, so I don;t see the point in judging contracts in hindsight unless you take the full body of work, because some players will be bargains and others will be poor value. Like draft picks, there is always a risk and you cannot hit them all (Vrabel was a good deal, Adalius Thomas a poor one). I also think it confuses things to evaluate an individual player's contributions in light of his contract. We are getting good value from Thompkins, for instance, but he was not dressed while Amendola was.