Vikings RB Adrian Peterson indicted for child abuse; deactivated for Pats game at Minnesota

Ivan said:

I am going to wait for the video.

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Come on this is a 4 year old kid, do not make jokes with his abuse as your platform...

crew1954 said:

So a bruised kid means immediate indictment and a cop shooting an unarmed kid ala Michael Brown takes months to 'investigate'?

Not taking sides in either incident, just observing.

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Michael Brown wasn't a 4 year old child and the cop who shot him didn't multi-tweet about giving him a 'whooping' without any fear of self-defense.

Plus, the fact that the event for the indictment happened 4 months ago and has been processed and investigated by several jurisdictions before being handled by Houston, and not "immediately".

Other than that, it's a great analogy.

crew1954 said:

So a bruised kid means immediate indictment and a cop shooting an unarmed kid 6' 4 man high on weed who had just committed strong arm robbery Michael Brown takes months to 'investigate'?

Not taking sides in either incident, just observing.

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Fixed that for you.

They would have to reconvene the OJ jury to indict that cop.

Such a shame I'm getting tired of hearing about all these players with so much talent being arrested for just stupid reasons. Why would you ever abuse a child?

PATS16N0 said:

Wow. I didn't see that. That's definitely incriminating.

Not same situation at all.

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OMG, shut up.

FreeTedWilliams said:

Fixed that for you.

They would have to reconvene the OJ jury to indict that cop.

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so being high on weed makes you dangerous now?

I do not think Adrian Peterson should ever play a down of football in the NFL. His actions exceed the heinousness of Ray Rice’s, this is a 4-year-old boy that could not defend himself, and had no resources to help himself against a 6’3” 230lb football player.

pats4life12 said:

Such a shame I'm getting tired of hearing about all these players with so much talent being arrested for just stupid reasons. Why would you ever abuse a child.

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So true!

You would think the NFL would have "do't be stupid" school!

I can see spanking, but "whooping" a 4 year old is just dumb! No idea what he was thinking.

So how long until the Vikings release?

Elijah said:

so being high on weed makes you dangerous now?

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No, but what you don't realize is the kid just committed a robbery, the cop thought he was just telling a stupid kid to get out of the road, but Brown thought he was getting arrested and was going to jail, as an adult for the strong arm robbery he just committed. He was already in fight or flight mode and fought the cop. That is what made him dangerous, being high obviously impaired his judgement.

FreeTedWilliams said:

No, but what you don't realize is the kid just committed a robbery, the cop thought he was just telling a stupid kid to get out of the road, but Brown thought he was getting arrested and was going to jail, as an adult for the strong arm robbery he just committed. He was already in fight or flight mode and fought the cop. That is what made him dangerous, being high obviously impaired his judgement.

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For the love of god, let's not turn this into a Michael Brown thread. Let's just acknowledge that it was a failed analogy, since there was nothing immediate about this investigation, and move on.

40 years ago spanking was an accepted method of punishment in child raising. Today it is completely shunned. Probably in 40 years it will be accepted again. Dr. Spock convinced our society that the best way to raise children was without the use of physical punishment. Of course he had a grandson commit suicide, so take his advise anyway you would like.

Regardless, there is a huge difference between swatting a childs butt and beating him over and over and over with a stick. Doing that to a 4 year old child isn't right, ever.

moosekill said:

40 years ago spanking was an accepted method of punishment in child raising. Today it is completely shunned. Probably in 40 years it will be accepted again. Dr. Spock convinced our society that the best way to raise children was without the use of physical punishment. Of course he had a grandson commit suicide, so take his advise anyway you would like.

Regardless, there is a huge difference between swatting a childs butt and beating him over and over and over with a stick. Doing that to a 4 year old child isn't right, ever.

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Big difference between spanking a child and using an object to beat him all over his body.

For the record though I do not agree with any violence as discipline.

PATS16N0 said:

So how long until the Vikings release?

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Ya right. You'll get the standard: "We will wait for the legal proceedings to play out".

moosekill said:

40 years ago spanking was an accepted method of punishment in child raising. Today it is completely shunned. Probably in 40 years it will be accepted again. Dr. Spock convinced our society that the best way to raise children was without the use of physical punishment. Of course he had a grandson commit suicide, so take his advise anyway you would like.

Regardless, there is a huge difference between swatting a childs butt and beating him over and over and over with a stick. Doing that to a 4 year old child isn't right, ever.

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It'll come back much sooner than that.

AP's own words in that text message certainly make it a police matter. There is still a lot to know, however. There are some domestic police matters that should just mean a Father spends a few months in jail, and others, in the most drastic of circumstances, when children should be taken away.

Even with those texts, I don't think we honestly know what this is.

Most of us don't even know what a "switch" is because I believe it's a southern term. I had to look it up after I saw the word appear in this thread. So even when we find things appalling, there are cultural differences that have to be respected (to a reasonable extent), and putting AP on the guillotine isn't going to dent a culture of raising children like this to a lesser extreme. I don't think any of you would want someone busting up your family as they momentarily passed through your life and hit you with their cultural judgements. That isn't a defense of AP's actions. I'm simply saying, maybe this is an instance that would warrant a neighbor going over and punching him in the mouth before calling the police, and then in a few months, Dad comes home and things are different.If it isn't a sadistic pleasure in hurting children, and instead just a parent going overboard, and understanding he went overboard, I think that's a fair judgement on a first penalty in the proper situation.

I just think it is sad that people think that somehow this is a normal thing and are saying it happened to them when they were a kid, so it's no big deal. Ya I don't think they were getting whipped like a government mule when they were 4 years old and if they were shame on their parents.

JMC00 said:

I just think it is sad that people think that somehow this is a normal thing and are saying it happened to them when they were kid so what's the big deal. Ya I don't think they were getting whipped like a government mule when they were 4 years old and if they were shame on their parents.

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It's excessive. He said he didn't know the `switch` was wrapping around the kids legs and he felt bad about it. I don't mention that to defend his actions, but to point out that that could very well mean the extent of the kids welts and bruises were accidental. That doesn't mean it isn't still a Police matter, and that he should suffer the consequences of the law, because we pay in life for our accidents, especially the ones with horrible ramifications, but it also doesn't necessarily mean he was raising the Texas Chainsaw massacre family in his `whoopin` room either.

This began with me defending a reflectance to rush to judgement based on allegations, a news story, and a lawyer's comment, and for me that's what it remains.

If anyone thinks I'm defending child abuse, they're completely wrong.

JMC00 said:

Ya right. You'll get the standard: "We will wait for the legal proceedings to play out".

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When situations of any type arise, an awful lot of people think the NFL should let the legal proceedings play out before levying any punishment. Then something as incredibly upsetting as this comes up and people want the league to act immediately.

The NFL is damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Patriots went from -3.5 favorites to -5.5 in Vegas after it was announced Peterson was deactivated.