Vikings RB Adrian Peterson indicted for child abuse; deactivated for Pats game at Minnesota

Spanking, which by I mean swatting your child on the butt ONE TIME, can be debated on effectiveness but I'd never do it to my boys no matter what they do...you parent your way and I'll parent my TYVM. But when multiple hits come, or an object is used; that is abuse. And it doesn't surprise me he was "raised that way in Texas". Abuse begets abuse, and he is extending the cycle.

condon84 said:

TB12 did say within reason a parent should be able to spank their child.

Some kids need it to reinforce whatever discipline the parent is trying to teach the child.

While the punishments you used for your kids worked, those same punishments may not use on other kids because everybody is different.

I see kids now when I'm at Target or at the grocery store who are completely out of control. And parents trying to talk to them, reason with them, or threaten to take toys away and those kids still misbehave.

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Those kids at Target are like that because their parents haven't done a good job disciplining prior to that, and now have no idea what to do.

Discipline needs to start early, like as soon as they learn to crawl.

I can tell all of you one of the few memories I have when I was younger involved a switch across my fac by a 20 something year old coward. To this day (some 30 years later) I hope I never run into that coward, I am afraid of what I might do. To those defending this, you obviously have never received this type of cruel punishment. Nothing a child has done deserves this type of punishment. I once had respect for Peterson, now he is nothing better than dirt. If guilty of this he is scum of the Earth and needs to be locked away!

Hell with it. I'm going to save myself the grief and put some terrible people on ignore.

Fixit said:

I have two boys, 6 and 2. They're complete lunatics sometimes. They break stuff, they disobey, they drive me up a damn wall.

You know why I don't need to hit them to correct them?

BECAUSE I'M A ****ING ADULT.

I don't hit them. That's how a child reacts, because they haven't learned other ways to cope.

Just own what you are.

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I will own what I am an adult who loves his son wants the best for him. I never hit him out of anger or frustration though believe me there were plenty of times I wanted to. There are other ways the problem with them? Not as effective. We are all wired differently so maybe your sons don't need it but my son (and me as a kid I am sure) knowing there was no real consequence that I felt and remembered meant I could keep pushing the limit and ignoring whatever I was told to do. I tried the whole sitting him down face to face and explaining I have this rule so you don't get hurt and I am really disappointed in you for breaking It. Know what happened? "I'm sorry daddy" and he looked crushed. Next day....did it again. So this time I spanked his butt. Next day...didn't do it cuz he knew he could only push so far before there we're consequences. You can call me whatever you want to feel superior to me and if it helps you sleep at night have at it but I am not a child who has learned no other option. I am done with this convo and will allow you to have the last word

Christiancat said:

Totally unnecessary jab at (Tebow), a young man who tries to do right by himself and others.

In regards to the topic of this thread. Hitting a child as a means to discipline your child is wrong. You teach your child right and wrong. If they do something wrong you take away their toys, video games, ground them etc. You should never discipline a child by hitting because all that teaches is fear not what is right or wrong.

As far as Peterson is concerned I will reserve judgement until more evidence becomes available.

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Some good points, Cat. Well-said.

I can understand a belt to the butt to teach the kid a lesson, but using a branch to the point where there are cuts all over the kids body is excessive.

condon84 said:

I see kids now when I'm at Target or at the grocery store who are completely out of control. And parents trying to talk to them, reason with them, or threaten to take toys away or ground them and those kids still misbehave.

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We all see that when we go out in public. Whenever we are out and see that, I whisper to my boys "Thank you for acting properly instead of being like that". Positive reinforcement works very well, at least in our house.

Nobody is defending child abuse.

Some people are simply of the mind that if what AP is only doing what their parents did, this isn't the story it might be made out to be. I think the media and a picture could make ANY family look messed up. Are you telling me there has been no moment in your entire family history where, if CNN was there live with Wolf Blitzer, America wouldn't get a complete wrong impression about you?

I for one am simply content to wait to see how the story unfolds before demanding someone be drawn and quartered.

My mom gave me a wooden spoon to the ass quite a few times. My father even back handed me across the face once. My family wasn't `The People Under The Stairs.`

Maybe this is a horrendous story of child abuse.

Maybe it isn't.

This is why we decide these things in court and not on the Nightly News.

KDPPatsfan85 said:

I can understand a belt to the butt to teach the kid a lesson, but using a branch to the point where there are cuts all over the kids body is excessive.

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It looks excessive, yes, but excessive can also be a parent who isn't a child abuser losing it just a few seconds too long when their kid is being an uncontrollable monster for 12 hours a day.

Little is lower than a child abuser, but anyone who doesn't know by now that pictures can lie didn't make good use of the previous day.

We have no idea what happened... yet

I HATE anyone who hurts children. It's something that I just can't tolerate. Abuse like that stays with you for the rest of your life. You don't forget it. I went through it and I have not forgotten. A four year old child should not experience that kind of pain.

Fixit said:

Those kids at Target are like that because their parents haven't done a good job disciplining prior to that, and now have no idea what to do.

Discipline needs to start early, like as soon as they learn to crawl.

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Not every kid will learn from the same discipline method you used for your kids at a very young age. You can take two kids and raise them exactly the same way but both kids will be completely different.

A firm spank in the butt to reinforce discipline is not child abuse SMH. While not every kid needs it, some kids do in certain situations.

Yeah, 4 years old is really young. That's a red flag.

We'll see what happens

PATS16N0 said:

Maybe this is a horrendous story of child abuse.

Maybe it isn't.

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Are you kidding? Did you even see the photos?

patsinthesnow said:

If we don't win this game now....

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If the Patriots don't score any second half points, they will probably lose on the road, regardless who is playing RB for the opposing team...

Imagine if we get gashed by the Vikings backup RB's.

condon84 said:

Not every kid will learn from the same discipline method you used for your kids at a very young age. You can take two kids and raise them exactly the same way but both kids will be completely different.

A firm spank in the butt to reinforce discipline is not child abuse SMH. While not every kid needs it, some kids do in certain situations.

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Yeah, when they have lousy parents, and it's become the only language they understand.

Fixit said:

Yeah, when they have lousy parents, and it's become the only language they understand.

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SMH. You mentioned your kids act like lunatics sometimes. Maybe you were the people I saw at Target trying to reason with them lol

Fixit said:

Are you kidding? Did you even see the photos?

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Got a link?