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Nice spin move too at the end of that!

Watched the Houston/Wash highlights last night, it looked like RAC was having a lot of fun with the Houston defense! No holding back at all there.
 
Vellano also needs to find himself off the roster. He's the team's new Jake Bequette.
 
I love Vellano, and I love Wendell. Those are just the kinds of guys you want getting all "Rudy" on the Practice Squad, to help keep the guys who actually play on Sundays sharp.
 
We could be so good in a 4-3 under..if only..
 
We could be so good in a 4-3 under..if only..

No kidding. I've been advocating this for years.

That's part of why I've been so intrigued with Jerel Worthy and Kelcy Quarles. Get a guy with the versatility to play LDE in a 4-3 under and DT, and you have tremendous versatility.
 
No kidding. I've been advocating this for years.

That's part of why I've been so intrigued with Jerel Worthy and Kelcy Quarles. Get a guy with the versatility to play LDE in a 4-3 under and DT, and you have tremendous versatility.
Yeah thats the only spot i dont think we have someone for but all the others are nearly perfect fits. I mean, Hightower was probably the best player out there on defense :eek:
 
Yeah thats the only spot i dont think we have someone for but all the others are nearly perfect fits. I mean, Hightower was probably the best player out there on defense :eek:

Wasn't a shock to me, I've always been a fan.
 
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The need for another exterior pass rusher, either as a backup to Jones/Ninkovich or as a longer term replacement for Nink has been discussed. However, if 3-4 (or a 4-3 under) is the new norm and the skill set that I believe Hightower demonstrated against the Dolphins is indicative of his true abilities as a 3-4 OLB then I think it drops down the priority list and the 3-4 DE becomes much more important and Carl Davis becomes very appealing as a compliment to Easley. The following becomes a very appealing front 7:

Davis - Wilfork/Siliga - Easley

Hightower/Nink - Collins - Mayo - C. Jones.

This could easily become a 4-3 under by shifting Chandler up onto the line as the RDE/Leo or a nickel 4-2 by swapping the NT for a DB with, obviously, Hightower/Nink as the LDE. It's nothing ground-breaking but it gives the flexibility that we really lacked Sunday. Davis isn't really a 0-tech or 3-tech but his strength makes him an ideal 1 or 3-tech.
 
Hightower was probably the best player out there on defense :eek:

Wasn't a shock to me, I've always been a fan.

As I said elsewhere, that's probably why we got blown out by Miami.

No disrespect to Hightower, who played perhaps the best game I've seen him play as a Pat, but if he's our best player then either (1) he has elevated his game enormously, or (2) everyone else sucked. It looked like a little bit of both to me.

Kudos to Hightower on his fine performance, and I hope he keeps it up, but I too view this is a bit of an :eek:.
 
The need for another exterior pass rusher, either as a backup to Jones/Ninkovich or as a longer term replacement for Nink has been discussed. However, if 3-4 (or a 4-3 under) is the new norm and the skill set that I believe Hightower demonstrated against the Dolphins is indicative of his true abilities as a 3-4 OLB then I think it drops down the priority list and the 3-4 DE becomes much more important and Carl Davis becomes very appealing as a compliment to Easley. The following becomes a very appealing front 7:

Davis - Wilfork/Siliga - Easley

Hightower/Nink - Collins - Mayo - C. Jones.

This could easily become a 4-3 under by shifting Chandler up onto the line as the RDE/Leo or a nickel 4-2 by swapping the NT for a DB with, obviously, Hightower/Nink as the LDE. It's nothing ground-breaking but it gives the flexibility that we really lacked Sunday. Davis isn't really a 0-tech or 3-tech but his strength makes him an ideal 1 or 3-tech.

I agree with most of this, though I'm not convinced Davis is a significant upgrade over what Kelcy Quarles could be, especially if he bulks up to around 310#.
 
I agree with most of this, though I'm not convinced Davis is a significant upgrade over what Kelcy Quarles could be, especially if he bulks up to around 310#.

I'm very meh on Quarles. Davis is so much more if he plays as strong as he can. Davis can rag doll offensive linemen at times.
 
Im yet to see Davis play but he has the size, right now im looking at Orr and Henry Anderson.
 
Im yet to see Davis play but he has the size, right now im looking at Orr and Henry Anderson.

What about someone who could play LDE in a 4-3 under but also has more explosiveness, such as Shawn Oakman? Do you think he's more of a pure 4-3 over player, or could he play both roles?
 
Right now im looking at Orr and Henry Anderson.

For anyone that missed it, this was Mackenzie Pantoja's profile on Henry Anderson from 15 months ago:

And then there’s Henry Anderson, the best old school 3-4 defensive end prospect I’ve ever seen. First of all, the job of the 3-4 end is one of the hardest in football. It’s less common in the NFL today, but they are often asked to be a two gap defensive linemen. That means that, in Anderson’s case, he’s asked to prevent successful running plays in both the B gap and the C gap. Controlling two gaps is hard. You need incredibly long arms and strength to make arm tackles on both sides of the linemen, as well as incredible instincts to see the running back moving in front of you. Another interesting aspect is that the 2 gap linemen shouldn’t be behind the line of scrimmage against the run. If Anderson, for example, penetrates the line through the C gap, the running back will simply run through the B gap, so TFL’s usually are an indicator of a guy who is not doing his job. Other than sacks, the only reason a 3-4 end should get a TFL is on certain run blitzes. It’s not a glamorous job (and that’s why Albert Haynesworth hated it), but it’s an important one. Anderson is so good that he actually gets TFL’s since he simply can push his tackle back behind the line of scrimmage and then begin to act like a normal two gap linemen. He follows his assignment because he does not shed his block but simply pushes the block behind the line of scrimmage so no matter what gap the running back chooses he’ll run right into an arm tackle. It’s pretty incredible. He has ideal length at 6’6, phenomenal strength (anecdotal evidence: with his stomach on the ground, Anderson grabbed Kenjon Barner’s jersey and wouldn’t let go. He simply laid on the field. Barner=Boat, Anderson=Anchor, and Barner fell to the ground), great discipline, good instincts, good fundamentals, everything you could ask for in a 3-4 end.

http://nflmocks.com/2013/06/15/why-stanford-will-win-the-2014-national-championship/
 
What about someone who could play LDE in a 4-3 under but also has more explosiveness, such as Shawn Oakman? Do you think he's more of a pure 4-3 over player, or could he play both roles?
IMO you want a real 3-4 in that spot, that Anderson report is pretty much the perfect player for that IMO.
Oakman is like Jones to me, and i wouldnt play him there.
 
For anyone that missed it, this was Mackenzie Pantoja's profile on Henry Anderson from 15 months ago:
:drool:

I was the biggest Josh Mauro fan last year, Anderson is at another level but hey Im a big fan of that Stanford program in general so you could probably say im a bit biased.
 
:drool:

I was the biggest Josh Mauro fan last year, Anderson is at another level but hey Im a big fan of that Stanford program in general so you could probably say im a bit biased.

Genuine question but how successful have players from that defensive program bee. I don't know how Murphy, Gardner and Mauro have faired but Chase Thomas is on his fourth team and Skov and Ed Reynolds are, for now, practice squad fodder. I have yet to watch Anderson properly but my sense is that Stanford players, a bit like Wisconsin and Iowa linemen, are a little over-coached without much upside. They have certainly produced what looked like good talent that hasn't really lived up to expectations so far (aside from Luck and Zach Ertz) so it will be interesting to see what proportion of them do develop (Tyler Gaffney hopefully for one).
 
Genuine question but how successful have players from that defensive program bee. I don't know how Murphy, Gardner and Mauro have faired but Chase Thomas is on his fourth team and Skov and Ed Reynolds are, for now, practice squad fodder. I have yet to watch Anderson properly but my sense is that Stanford players, a bit like Wisconsin and Iowa linemen, are a little over-coached without much upside. They have certainly produced what looked like good talent that hasn't really lived up to expectations so far (aside from Luck and Zach Ertz) so it will be interesting to see what proportion of them do develop (Tyler Gaffney hopefully for one).
DeCastro and Martin.
Well Yankey got a job with the Vikes, Murphy played for the Redskins week1 but on that trainwreck of a franchise is hard to judge, Mauro apparently had a good training camp and is with the steelers PS.

The best players of that defense were Murphy and Anderson, then Anderson got injured and Mauro emerged.
 


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