Typical Josh McDaniels

Bombdog said:

Im saying he is predictable because Brady is getting pounded and he is calling for long developing plays down field. TFB is not a great at throwing the deep ball. He is best at the short to intermediate pass game. If keeps making Brady go back and try to throw the deep ball with this line he will not make it through the season. Tom is the GOAT no doubt, but he needs help from the line and the receivers.

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How is that predictable? Our offense has always revolved around quick short throws.

chasa said:

we dont have an up the middle runningback, all we have is riddely that can run off the sides.

we need a blount type back that can smash it.

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I am pretty sure that most of Ridley's yards in his career have been to the A and B-gaps. I don't know if there is a stats resource that might document this, but if other posters disagree, I'd be interested in hearing it, because as far as I can tell, your contention does not match with reality.


In the second half, the Dolphins crowded the line of scrimmage and dared the Pats to throw it, stuffing the handful of running-down runs back in their faces. Play-calling is much less of a critical factor if you can't run block, pass block, or chip and slip out for a screen effectively. The way to beat a crowded LOS is to hit your passes behind the defenders crowding the line, but if you only get 3 seconds to throw, that's a tougher ask.

Its predictable because he gives up the run and the short passing game, and starts throwing deeper passes. Just go back and review past losses and see how many deep routes that he is calling. He abandons the short passing and running games. To me if you put somebody in a situation and he does the same thing every time its not hard to figure out what he is going to do. That is predictability

Offensive & defensive playcalling/gameplan deficiencies will continue until there is an OC or DC who is not a Belichick lackey....bring someone in from the outside because the "Patriot Way" - whatever that is - hasn't won a super bowl in 10 years, despite having an enormous amount of talent on the team...

Not to mention exhausting an already highly questionable line in the Miami heat - so let's make it that much more difficult on them by passing every play - as well as tiring out their own D, too. Here is the amount of time spent on the 7 second half drives.

1st 1:12
2nd :49
3rd 2:00
4th 1:11
5th 1:25
6th :15
7th 2:23

Edelman gained 21 yards on 2 reverses first half
2nd half, when the offense was struggling, no reverse with Edelman was called

Armchair Quarterback said:

Not to mention exhausting an already highly questionable line in the Miami heat - so let's make it that much more difficult on them by passing every play. Not to mention tiring out their own D, too. Here is the amount of time of the 7 second half drives.

1st 1:12
2nd :49
3rd 2:00
4th 1:11
5th 1:25
6th :15
7th 2:23

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Pass plays take more out defenses, not offenses.

Deus Irae said:

Pass plays take more out defenses, not offenses.

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Not the O line.

Deus Irae said:

Pass plays take more out defenses, not offenses.

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Miami shut out NE in the second half, didn't seem to bother them.

For once, I'd like the Patriots to have an OC that isn't auditioning for a HC job. It may not be glamorous to line up and make a commitment to running the ball, but if that's the best way to win (and keep TB upright) on a given Sunday, so be it.

Armchair Quarterback said:

Miami shut out NE in the second half, didn't seem to bother them.

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I'm already on record bashing McDaniels for this game, in another thread, but your point was off, regardless of whether the team used to the heat and humidity wilted or not.

AndyJohnson said:

If you are calling for lining up and running the ball on first down, which I think you are, .....

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I wasn't.

AndyJohnson said:

If you are calling for lining up and running the ball on first down, which I think you are, using stats that are skewed by 'gimmick' runs doesn't make a great argument. The 20-89 rushing sounds good, except with you consider 4 of them (20% of the runs) were reverses to Edelman or 3 and long runs (Vereen and Bolden) that amount to 40 of the 89 yards.
If we are saying they should have tried to run the ball right at them the other 20 carries for 49 yards is more pertinent.

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What I WAS saying is that mixing in more runs and controlling a greater deal of the ToP on a very hot day was crucial.

Once again, look at the 20-10 score of the 1st half when the Patriots ha a 17:58-12:02 ToP advantage compared to the 23-0 shellacking they took inthe 2nd half when Miami had a ToP by 18:31-11:29.

McDaniels $hitting his pants and going 82% pass was EXACTLY what he did last year in Miami. And the same 2nd half loss of a lead occurred.

AndyJohnson said:

If you are saying he is predicatable because he puts the ball in the hands of the GOAT QB, especially when the game is on the line, then I am glad he is predictable.

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How good Brady is is irrelevant when the other team doesn't have to guess whether it is a run play and Brady is being pressured within 1.5 seconds of the snap.

If he wants to pass 82% of the time, he better put in some more dump offs.

If people want to rail against scheme and play calling, focus on the defense. That was far worse than the (mostly) invalid complaints about the OC

Deus Irae said:

If people want to rail against scheme and play calling, focus on the defense. That was far worse than the (mostly) invalid complaints about the OC

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89 degrees, 61% humidity



20-10

17:58-12:02

14 Runs/29 Passes
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0-23

11:29-18:31.

6 Runs/27 Passes



THAT is what effected the Defense of the New England Patriots most in the 2nd half (along with not having Tommy Kelly)

It is what it is.


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shmessy said:

23-0.

18:31-11:29.

6 Runs/27 Passes

It is what it is.

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Ridley had 1 run of 11 yards. The rest of his runs? 7 runs, 10 yards



Yes, it is what it is, but it's not what you seem to think.

Deus Irae said:

Ridley had 1 run of 11 yards. The rest of his runs? 7 runs, 10 yards



Yes, it is what it is, but it's not what you seem to think.

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The Patriots are a team.

Ridley is not the only player on the Patriots running the ball.

Time of Possession means something and there was a direct correlation to the score.

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My two complaints on MacDaniels are that he gets too cute too often instead of going with the smart call or sticking with what is working, it's like he has to run every play he drew up for that game and too often in situations like 2nd and short will go empty backfield when they should simply line up[ and pound it a couple of times and set a physical tone in the right moments (e.g..too cute.) The second is that they know when they come out running plays that they have set for that week that the opposing coordinator will respond with defensive sets to stop those plays. With Weiss i always felt that he knew how opposing defenses were going to respond and had his counter to those responses ready to go, whereas with MacDaniels I rarely see that fluid response to opposing defenses counter moves. In the first half against Miami they were fairly successful offensively but when the fish went in for the half and came out with their counter tthe Patriots simply weren't ready and looked scattershot offensively for the rest of the game. whether that was simply heat fatigue that kept them from executing effectively or a lack of an effective response schematically from MacDaniels is difficult to really know but I have seen it before from them in games where they screw the pooch and the game Sunday reminded me of that.

JMC00 said:

5 series in the 2nd half where it was either the Pats were up, tie game, or the Dolphins up by one score and there were 3 rush attempts and 3 screen attempts.

Can you at least try to establish that you have two good RBs. One that if you feed him the ball 20 times a game instead of the 8, is gonna give you some solid 1st down runs.

Guy was treating the game like the backup Miami LBs were the 2000 Ravens or something.

Just very typical of him when it's a close game to be calling plays like the Pats are down 20 points.

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Josh McDaniels is a great example of why you do not get back together with your ex-girlfriend. The likelihood is she will be very different and potentially damaged by the other men she saw during your time apart.